Anyone?longbongsilver wrote:I'm assuming since Record can directly load Reason instruments, that now means that you can sample (read: record audio, cut, then drag and drop) into NNXT and ReDrum using it.
Am I correct?
Record: New DAW from Propellerheads
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- KVRist
- 253 posts since 3 Aug, 2005
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
erm ...Amberience wrote:Why make music? None of us are going to make money from it, so why bother?
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- Banned
- 84 posts since 2 Jun, 2005
That's what I call my friends MAC Pro.5bongo5 wrote:Just think of it as a very *expensive* dongle.daradei wrote:and Logic nowadays is Mac ONLY. that's a dealbreaker for me, not a dongle
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
I haven't heard anything. I signed up for the heck of it. It could be cool. But who knows. It seems rather simplistic to me so far, which is the point I think.lotus2035 wrote:So a few people have the Beta yes?? I signed up but haven't heard anything yet..
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 24 Mar, 2007
Why do so many people seem to enjoy being so negative and cynical? Just because YOU don't see a grand or ground breaking tool, that doesn't mean that it won't be just the thing for someone else.
We all learn and think differently. Our brains are wired differently. Some of us can learn from reading in a book while others need to physically DO something themselves to learn it. I think it's WONDERUFUL that there are so many DAWS out there with different approaches to acomplishing the same tasks. Pro Tools is considered "the industry standard" but I've never been able to wrap my head around those buttons for different modes, slip-grid-etc.or what all that black writing on the left and right white fields of the tracks is for. When playing around with the app. I've always lost interest in the program, finding it tedious, long before finding the motivation to figure these features out.
I personally am a HUGE fan of Tracktion, since it was designed to be a COMPUTER app. It got rid of the linear, analogue mixing board dynamic. Being that I got into recording at the tail end of analog recording, I never really learned about bussing, patching, routing, channels, yada,yada. Tracktion, instead of copying and pasting the old analogue paradigm into software (like every other DAW) said, "there's no reason to record or think like that in the digital realm" and so it HAS NO MIXER! For those of us who were never schooled in analogue recording, this is a capital simplification of the process.
That's why me and SO many others greeted it with open arms. Need another track, just invent one with a click and adjust all it's parameters right there on THAT track. If you want to record a vsti, just click and drag it's name from a list into the project and a track is created, ready to go, no routing, no setting, no nothing. Just start playing. It's so...FAST. Unfortunately it seems as if Mackie has orphaned it, so us Tracktion users are desperate for a fast, intuitive, non-techy DAW.
I bought SONAR, but sadly...I find it a very tedious program of a million little clicks, menus, windows, settings, icons, obscure nomenclature etc.. When I want to put down what's in my head, I don't want to feel like I have to suddenly turn on the side of my brain that does math problems, just to "set things up" for the purposes of "quickly" laying down a small MIDI
sequence.
I don't want to be asked a million questions in dialogue boxes or have to route this and connect that, click here now select that, change your view and now click that and select from this...blah-blah-blah. With my ADD, by the time I've got a track in Sonar "ready" for recording, I've long forgotten my musical idea and my mind has moved to something completely unrelated to what I'm doing and I end up zombie staring at the monitor.
That's what I feel like in MOST DAWs. I have severe ADD, so even something as superficial as appearance makes a HUGE difference to me. I simply can NOT use cluttered interfaces with lots of little icons, markings, windows, numbers, squares, fields etc.
The visuals simply overwhelm me and make me drift. I can't use Sonys' Acid for the simple reason that I find it's color scheme of pastels on a BRIGHT WHITE field garish, unpleasant and tiring. I'm actually ONLY buying an Apple because I LOVE the New look of Logic 8, as it's SO...clean and spartan and built on the original Tracktion concept of ONE WINDOW simplicity. Someone like me can truly think in that environment. Others may find that boring and actually be inspired by a GUI that looks like the control panel of a jet plane! Our brains are all wired differently and we need to celebrate that and find that which works best for each one of US!
Please stop bashing and trashing every company for releasing a new DAW. Like I said, even something seemingly as superficial as graphics/look can make a HUGE difference if not ALL the difference to certain users, myself included, while to others, it's just the same old beans in a different can. The can CAN be important to some of us! That's why statements like "there's nothing new here...there's nothing ground breaking here...this is no big deal..." completely miss the point!
I think Record will be JUST the thing for certain users,as it looks like it's trying to minimize, simplify and streamline, like Tracktion. I wish the vid would have demonstrated more...just HOW Record is so fast and untechy. Instead of the cutesy vid, I would have liked to see someone open the program and show us..."now I'm going to record a real instruemnt...now I'm going to record a vst instrument..." and so on. I would have liked to have seen what is involved in using the program. I like the spartan look, but personally, I would have made it even plainer.
It's a GOOD thing that there are an abundance of DAWs on the market not a BAD thing! If YOU don't see anything in a particular DAW, then don't buy it. But why the need to trash talk it? I just don't get that. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I can't wait to see more from PreSonus and their upcoming Studio One DAW! Let's rejoice in our CHOICES instead of trashing software companies for...um...creating new software. No one is FORCING YOU to use it or buy it, so just chill and live and let live!
We all learn and think differently. Our brains are wired differently. Some of us can learn from reading in a book while others need to physically DO something themselves to learn it. I think it's WONDERUFUL that there are so many DAWS out there with different approaches to acomplishing the same tasks. Pro Tools is considered "the industry standard" but I've never been able to wrap my head around those buttons for different modes, slip-grid-etc.or what all that black writing on the left and right white fields of the tracks is for. When playing around with the app. I've always lost interest in the program, finding it tedious, long before finding the motivation to figure these features out.
I personally am a HUGE fan of Tracktion, since it was designed to be a COMPUTER app. It got rid of the linear, analogue mixing board dynamic. Being that I got into recording at the tail end of analog recording, I never really learned about bussing, patching, routing, channels, yada,yada. Tracktion, instead of copying and pasting the old analogue paradigm into software (like every other DAW) said, "there's no reason to record or think like that in the digital realm" and so it HAS NO MIXER! For those of us who were never schooled in analogue recording, this is a capital simplification of the process.
That's why me and SO many others greeted it with open arms. Need another track, just invent one with a click and adjust all it's parameters right there on THAT track. If you want to record a vsti, just click and drag it's name from a list into the project and a track is created, ready to go, no routing, no setting, no nothing. Just start playing. It's so...FAST. Unfortunately it seems as if Mackie has orphaned it, so us Tracktion users are desperate for a fast, intuitive, non-techy DAW.
I bought SONAR, but sadly...I find it a very tedious program of a million little clicks, menus, windows, settings, icons, obscure nomenclature etc.. When I want to put down what's in my head, I don't want to feel like I have to suddenly turn on the side of my brain that does math problems, just to "set things up" for the purposes of "quickly" laying down a small MIDI
sequence.
I don't want to be asked a million questions in dialogue boxes or have to route this and connect that, click here now select that, change your view and now click that and select from this...blah-blah-blah. With my ADD, by the time I've got a track in Sonar "ready" for recording, I've long forgotten my musical idea and my mind has moved to something completely unrelated to what I'm doing and I end up zombie staring at the monitor.
That's what I feel like in MOST DAWs. I have severe ADD, so even something as superficial as appearance makes a HUGE difference to me. I simply can NOT use cluttered interfaces with lots of little icons, markings, windows, numbers, squares, fields etc.
The visuals simply overwhelm me and make me drift. I can't use Sonys' Acid for the simple reason that I find it's color scheme of pastels on a BRIGHT WHITE field garish, unpleasant and tiring. I'm actually ONLY buying an Apple because I LOVE the New look of Logic 8, as it's SO...clean and spartan and built on the original Tracktion concept of ONE WINDOW simplicity. Someone like me can truly think in that environment. Others may find that boring and actually be inspired by a GUI that looks like the control panel of a jet plane! Our brains are all wired differently and we need to celebrate that and find that which works best for each one of US!
Please stop bashing and trashing every company for releasing a new DAW. Like I said, even something seemingly as superficial as graphics/look can make a HUGE difference if not ALL the difference to certain users, myself included, while to others, it's just the same old beans in a different can. The can CAN be important to some of us! That's why statements like "there's nothing new here...there's nothing ground breaking here...this is no big deal..." completely miss the point!
I think Record will be JUST the thing for certain users,as it looks like it's trying to minimize, simplify and streamline, like Tracktion. I wish the vid would have demonstrated more...just HOW Record is so fast and untechy. Instead of the cutesy vid, I would have liked to see someone open the program and show us..."now I'm going to record a real instruemnt...now I'm going to record a vst instrument..." and so on. I would have liked to have seen what is involved in using the program. I like the spartan look, but personally, I would have made it even plainer.
It's a GOOD thing that there are an abundance of DAWs on the market not a BAD thing! If YOU don't see anything in a particular DAW, then don't buy it. But why the need to trash talk it? I just don't get that. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I can't wait to see more from PreSonus and their upcoming Studio One DAW! Let's rejoice in our CHOICES instead of trashing software companies for...um...creating new software. No one is FORCING YOU to use it or buy it, so just chill and live and let live!
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- KVRAF
- 1534 posts since 18 Jan, 2005
The quality of the software is up to you to decide. And that's the point. In the case of Record, quality of copy protection is Propellerhead's business. You don't like it? So what -- the software is not your property to secure. You don't get to worry about loss prevention as far as the software is concerned, Propellerhead does.bpoteat wrote:Ok. I think most of us get that having to punch yourself in the face isn't a FEATURE of the software, just something you have to put up with, but I do know that it sure as hell better be REALLY good software to require the hassle of keeping up with a dongle every time you take your machine with you somewhere to play.Ubiety wrote:If a dongle is the most important feature of a piece of software for you, so be it.djanthonyw wrote:I'm suprised that there are actually people that stick up for and prefer dongles. I wonder if they also voluntarily walk around with a ball and chain attached to their ankle...
So, I guess the point is our feature to hassle ratio might be a bit lower than yours.
And it's quite ingenious to perceive a dongle as a slap in the face. I mean, if you were actually slapped in the face with a dongle, that's one thing -- but if you're saying that because Propellerhead providing a dongle with the software you bought is a slap in the face, well, that's what's ingenious. And cockeyed to boot.
Propellerhead doesn't provide you with a dongle because they think that you're a thief. They provide you with a dongle because they know you're a legitimate user. Criminals don't get dongles, understand? Criminals are castrated.
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- KVRAF
- 2448 posts since 12 Sep, 2004
Hunh?Ubiety wrote:Propellerhead doesn't provide you with a dongle because they think that you're a thief. They provide you with a dongle because they know you're a legitimate user.
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- KVRAF
- 7794 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
When your dongle is stolen by a thief lets see if you get a new one...
You know, Propellerhead products have always reminded me of Steinberg products, I guess now there's one more similarity to close the gap.
You know, Propellerhead products have always reminded me of Steinberg products, I guess now there's one more similarity to close the gap.
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- KVRAF
- 4822 posts since 14 Mar, 2002 from Somewhere else, on principle
Yeah, I figured that's what you where getting at, only that's not how projects that are "works in progress" are generally saved. Since the discussion was about the portability of projects in regards to sharing them with collaborators, it's safe to assume they would not be shared in a mixed down form.v1o wrote:Actually I think maybe you didn't quite get what I'm saying. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'm talking about of the "sum" of all audio data in the file. So 80 mins of audio data means twenty (4 minute) stereo tracks or forty mono tracks.
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- KVRAF
- 6159 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
They already said you can get a new dongle at a "nominal fee". Nothing like Steinberg who doesn't replace dongles... if you lose it you're out of luck.djanthonyw wrote:When your dongle is stolen by a thief lets see if you get a new one...
You know, Propellerhead products have always reminded me of Steinberg products, I guess now there's one more similarity to close the gap.
Kinda like if you lose this thing...
... Digi won't give you another one.
Can you even buy it by itself or do you have to buy the software again also for $200+?
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- KVRAF
- 7794 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
I'd imagine having someone steal a dongle would be the same as losing it to a company.LawrenceF wrote:They already said you can get a new dongle at a "nominal fee". Nothing like Steinberg who doesn't replace dongles... if you lose it you're out of luck.djanthonyw wrote:When your dongle is stolen by a thief lets see if you get a new one...
You know, Propellerhead products have always reminded me of Steinberg products, I guess now there's one more similarity to close the gap.
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- KVRAF
- 4822 posts since 14 Mar, 2002 from Somewhere else, on principle
I think that in this case, a big part of the negative reaction was predicated by an extremely overhyped and obviously staged teaser video that is a complete insult to the target audiences intelligence...Budbud wrote:Why do so many people seem to enjoy being so negative and cynical? Just because YOU don't see a grand or ground breaking tool, that doesn't mean that it won't be just the thing for someone else.