Softube Modular

[Uncle E]

How long before Softube makes a Console 1 for Modular?

[murnau]

How long before Softube makes a Console 1 for Modular?

Tell me about it.

[popskull]

Ableton Live 9 users have reported that plug-in presets are not available when using the Audio Units version of a plug-in. Ableton Live 9 does not support presets in the Audio Units version of plug-ins, so this is not specific for Softube's plug-ins.

http://www.softube.com/index.php?id=support10

That's bs, Live loads aupresets fine from the browser as long as they are in the right place:

Aupresets.jpg

OK I've installed the demo now and can see the problem, It has nothing to do with Live not supporting aupresets because it does (you just load them from the browser, not from the plugin header). Fact is Modular doesn't ship with any aupresets, all of its presets are in vstpreset format, which is actually the default format for VST3 plugins (default for VST2 is fxp/b). However there is something weird about how they have implemented it because you also can't see the library in the VST3 version in Studio One either, you can only load presets 1 by 1 using the single preset loader (the AU works fine though). Ironically even though there are no aupresets the library is browsable in the dropdown preset menu in Logic (I tested this and it appears there is a builtin patch bank - Logic is not reading the individual vstpresets from the hard drive - it can't) but it doesn't show in Logic's library browser unless you save individual patches as aupresets.

This whole thing is a mess and is so badly thought out - what it means is you can only save presets in Modular's native format (vstpreset) from the VST3 version in a host that supports that (and not all hosts that can load VST3 plugins can save in vstpreset format). You could save as an aupreset but then only people on Mac using au hosts (so not Bitwig for example) can use that, there is no way to convert, you could also save as fxp but then it can't be opened in Logic and au only hosts. Why they didn't build in a browser to manage presets is beyond me, nearly everyone does that these days because hosts are generally really sucky at cross platform preset management, they all want you to use their own formats. So bottom line is there is no easy way to save patches in a format that everyone can use.

They need a preset manager for all their plugins. Great sounding plugins but no preset manager. All other vendors have one, Waves, UVI, NI etc etc. It currently is a pain, work done with Modular in LIVE doesn't transfer to working in Logic. Its really time they come up with one.

[ATS]

tried to demo this but crashes studio one. Found out it is a known bug. Wish I knew before I activated my trial.

[tedannemann]

tried to demo this but crashes studio one. Found out it is a known bug. Wish I knew before I activated my trial.

Works flawless here in Studio One 3 on Mac OS X. Try deleting the modular VST3 file manually in you plugins path and just use (let S1 scan) the VST2 version. S1 does have problems with VST3 versions sometimes.

[ImNotDedYet]

tried to demo this but crashes studio one. Found out it is a known bug. Wish I knew before I activated my trial.

If you're on Windows 10, run S1 in Windows 8 compatibility mode. Without compatibility mode, softube plugs crash S1 as well.

[zerocrossing]

Considering they didn't expose parameters for automation, it's probably for the best.

what?
of course, parameters are exposed for automation... as soon as you add a modules, all the 'knobs' are automatable.
why do you think they aren't? (probably this is why you need to demo, to clear such things up )

Oh. Bad forum info on Gearslutz? Still, can't download it even if I owned it. Has anyone zipped it up and put it on a share site?

Id written them and created a support ticket about it. They sent me dropbox links to the file(s) which I never used since I'd gotten it on my phone. Unfortunately, I've deleted the emails with the links, but if you really want to demo it you can contact support.

And the issue is likely as much to do with your ISP as Softube, so don't necessarily put all the blame on them.

Well, they should know better than to not zip a file that big anyway, but yeah, I sent them a support request. Have not heard back. If you happen to be rummaging through your deleted messages and come across that link I'd appreciate it.

[wagtunes]

Well, I'm in love.

If this thing was a woman I'd take it to bed with me.

The smaller GUI fits perfectly on my 1024 res. Just starting to scratch the surface with the available modules but have already made some cool patches including a nifty dual osc tape delay.

Something tells me I am never going to get any work done ever again. LOL.

[rod_zero]

I liked Modular, but I doubt I have the time for it.

Nevertheless I downloaded Heartbeat, for testing the modules, but after trying the full drum machine I liked it a lot, don't why it got so much hate when it was released, honestly it sounds quite good, it has the right amount of tweakable paramters without being overwhelimng. Routing is a problem because you can't have individual outputs for the effects.

Now I don't know what to get.

[deastman]

I liked Modular, but I doubt I have the time for it.

Nevertheless I downloaded Heartbeat, for testing the modules, but after trying the full drum machine I liked it a lot, don't why it got so much hate when it was released, honestly it sounds quite good, it has the right amount of tweakable paramters without being overwhelimng. Routing is a problem because you can't have individual outputs for the effects.

Now I don't know what to get.

Heartbeat sounds fantastic. I think a lot of people didn't like that it didn't have a sequencer included. I didn't really care about that aspect myself. I've been having a blast making some crazy random drum sequences with Modular though... Multiple LFOs through logic gates. Good fun!

[wagtunes]

Do the Heartbeat modules come with Modular or do you have to get Heartbeat in order to get them?

If Heartbeat doesn't have a sequencer for making drum patterns, then what exactly is the point of getting it if Modular comes with the Heartbeat modules?

If somebody could clarify all this that would be great.

[rod_zero]

Do the Heartbeat modules come with Modular or do you have to get Heartbeat in order to get them?

If Heartbeat doesn't have a sequencer for making drum patterns, then what exactly is the point of getting it if Modular comes with the Heartbeat modules?

If somebody could clarify all this that would be great.

Heartbeat modules are only for heartbeat owners.

Personally I prefer to use my DAW sequencer, specially since I am using Push, so no problem for me not having sequencer in the plug in. Now I am trying to figure out a similar set up with Modular (individual drum modules triggered by different notes and routed through different outs), not easy at all.

Given how limited heartbeat is it is great to be able to use the modules in modular, using envelopes and LFO's to modulate some parameters.

[wagtunes]

Well, I pulled the trigger and got Modular with the 3 add-ons. Didn't get Heartbeat because I couldn't see spending another $100 plus for a few percussion modules especially since you can design your own drums with regular oscillators anyway.

Don't expect to get much work done now.

[deastman]

Well, I pulled the trigger and got Modular with the 3 add-ons. Didn't get Heartbeat because I couldn't see spending another $100 plus for a few percussion modules especially since you can design your own drums with regular oscillators anyway.

Don't expect to get much work done now.

The Heartbeat drums are a mixture of samples and synthesis, or at least some of them are. No argument here, but since I already owned Heartbeat, it was either an added inventive or a nice bonus to get Modular.

[morelia]

If this thing was a woman I'd take it to bed with me.

If this thing was a woman it would cost a lot more than $99