Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

[Firebird]

Shows who the real fanbois are though.

Yea I'm a fanboi because The Legend sounds awesome and is a joy to play. I don't care about silly things like "snappy" or "blippy" or other imaginary flaws.

So why not talk about what we think is not 100%?

Do you own a Model D ? If not then you can't say what is 100% or not.

What i don't quite get is the involvement, also emotionally of some people here

You mean like you who for some reason has always had something against Synapse synths ? Of course it's your right to hold any opinion you think is valid I just don't understand what it is you have against Synapse synths.

Anyway in my opinion The Legend is an awesome instrument. If anyone finds joy in looking for microscopic flaws then....have fun but you're missing the point.

Is it a "perfect" emulation?

Well, not owning the original hardware its hard for me to say %100.

Do I care?

Not really.

Being a fan of Electronic music, particularly old school classics, this synth is getting me some sounds not achieved with other emulations, especially with the extra "Legendary" presets Yorrrrrr mentioned.

I wish there were more emulations of the old hardware synths.

I have several others but the Legend has some sounds I haven't yet heard from other emulations, including Moog emulations.

So, personally I could not say if its exactly like the original hardware, but really, what emulation is?

[cytospur]

Oh Teksonik.... If Synapse Audio would be like you, they'd still do synths like Steinberg's Model-E.

As a member of the same beta team as Teksonik, I can assure you that this is simply untrue.

Back to your original point about three different emu's sounding differently. Presumably they all used different Minimoogs? I'm not saying that any of them have nailed it 100%, but some of the differences might be due to differences between units.

[EvilDragon]

So what's up with this amount of aliasing?

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/12177231-post87.html

[Richard_Synapse]

So what's up with this amount of aliasing?

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/12177231-post87.html

This is not aliasing, it is the effects of the power supply. You can easily see this because the harmonics are +/- 50 Hz away from the sawtooth harmonics (or 60 Hz, dependent on the mains frequency setting on the back panel). I feared in advance that someone would incorrectly claim that as aliasing, but we wanted to have a perfect emulation including all effects that can be measured. And btw, aliasing also sounds completely different - but obviously some people do not even bother to use their ears to evaluate the sound...

Richard

[EvilDragon]

Oh, that's interesting! Might be a good idea to debunk that on GS then, I suppose.


EDIT: aaaaand somebody already quoted you.

[chk071]

Oh Teksonik.... If Synapse Audio would be like you, they'd still do synths like Steinberg's Model-E.

As a member of the same beta team as Teksonik, I can assure you that this is simply untrue.

Back to your original point about three different emu's sounding differently. Presumably they all used different Minimoogs? I'm not saying that any of them have nailed it 100%, but some of the differences might be due to differences between units.

Yes. As i pointed out already. I don't know why there would be a difference in terms of snappiness though, or why a synth would lose that. I don't see a technical reason for that. Fact is, the emus all differ in that regard. Why? Obviously it's something which can be modelled via software this way or that way.

It's a whole lot better in Legend than the envelopes used to behave in Dune 1, or Dune 2, but, still i sense the same kind of strawy sound, with small decay times, or in general, when you make plucky sounds, also with high resonance levels. Monark also stay more "beefy", when you close the filter with high resonance settings. No idea what is technically, obviously the way to model the envelopes differ from software to software.

And, no, i don't want to talk the synth bad, and, yes, i know the fans will hate me for that. Still, this is a free forum where we can discuss about a synth, no matter whether it is positive or negative.

[AnX]

So what's up with this amount of aliasing?

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/12177231-post87.html

You'd think the self proclaimed experts at these forums would know the difference.

[Teksonik]

Still, this is a free forum where we can discuss about a synth, no matter whether it is positive or negative.

Certainly we are free to discuss any synth positive or negative as long as our comments are based in fact and not fantasy.

I don't know why there would be a difference in terms of snappiness though, or why a synth would lose that.

Again there is that term "snappy" which you can't define nor have you ever posted any examples of what it sounds like.

You're so predictable that before The Legend was even released some of us bet that you would complain about "snappiness".

[Mutant]

Yes, there is some aliasing in The Legend, but the user at GS who posted these images of the spectrum, i think he incorrectly recognized the additional harmonics as aliasing, while aliasing (to my knowledge) is only seen at the very high end of the spectrum as frequencies that fold back from the Nyquist (which i explained on GS too) - it is mostly inaudible if not using some additional amplification or tube saturation plugins after The Legend.

[Chopper]

Not exactly. The garbage harmonies fall back in the entire spectrum, not just the upper parts.

[fluffy_little_something]

I don't hear more aliasing than in other synths. But of course the analyzer might show things I don't hear.
First I thought there was some noise, but I had not turned off all potential noise sources, i.e. noise, feedback, saturation and drive.

But I run my system at 96k, so maybe that has something to do with it. I don't dare try it at 44k because my audio driver is a bit buggy and I am happy there are no problems with the current configuration.

[Yorrrrrr]

I never thought aliasing would sound this good.

[fluffy_little_something]

What's the point in keeping the oscillator running even when the entire oscillator is switched off?
It's odd when you switch everything off and play a chord and the CPU meter shoots to 50+ percent without there being any sound

[Kumi_27]

"Free running oscillators" I think
If You switch off the oscillator, it's not running anymore. So You have to keep it running somehow.

[Urs]

What's the point in keeping the oscillator running even when the entire oscillator is switched off?
It's odd when you switch everything off and play a chord and the CPU meter shoots to 50+ percent without there being any sound

It's the same on the hardware. You switch the Oscs off but you can still keep the heaters turned down a notch.