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james0tucson · Post by **james0tucson** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:41 pm

"Can you load a midi track in your main DAW and have the midi sent to a second PC where the actual VST is and have the output sent back to the main DAW?"

Why not? How is this different from treating the second PC as a MIDI-fied instrument? I send MIDI from my sequencer to my hardware synths and grab the output in an audio channel all the time. The sequencer doesn't care if the synth is another PC, and the PC doesn't care that it's not a synth.

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:42 pm

Fabriciom wrote:Can you load a midi track in your main DAW and have the midi sent to a second PC where the actual VST is and have the output sent back to the main DAW? Dont think so...

sure - that's what FXteleport is for...

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/611.html

Fabriciom · Post by **Fabriciom** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:45 pm

Does not allow you to control the other DAW just the VST... What if i want to add plug-ins, process, etc I can only find in a DAW not just the VST?

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:57 pm

Is that really the main reason that you use Cubase, Fabriciom?

Damn - and to think that [on a good day, when it isn't too busy crashing, and assuming that you've not lost or broken your dongle] Cubase is capable of so many other esoteric and obscure functions. Yet you pick this one!

Oh well, each to their own I guess... everyone has their own sweet reason for loving their prefered host

. Good luck with that...

Fabriciom · Post by **Fabriciom** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:59 pm

I use it alot and doubt there is anything else like it that is as easy to work with. The only time I have had Cubase crash on my has been caused by VSTs not Cubase.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:03 am

I dunno, dude. It seems like you're basing your love on some pretty shaky grounds. The functionality is already replicated in other ways and in other DAWs. For what it's worth, though I'll never be a Logic user, their different method of resource sharing (distributed network) has more appeal to me than System Link.

Frankly, I think it's ALL a bunch of bollocks unless it's integral to use all those systems in a live performance situation, in which case I'd be more worried about portability and stability than the actual power you're gaining.

Why bollocks, then? If it's for a recording, I'd rather just bounce, freeze, render, whatever you want to call it or however you want to use it. No need for another PC.

Greg

Fabriciom · Post by **Fabriciom** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:09 am

What are you talking about. Logic looks and feels like WWII software. If you are worring about using it a DAW for live performace you have Ableton Live which to me is more like a DJ tool than anything in which case I dont see any use in going to a gig with all your tracks already mixed.
I dont know if you have been following the whole fiasco of apple going Intel but it seems that Tiger runs alot faster on Intel chips than it does on IBM's so I'm not sure it will be a wise investment to change to apple.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:51 am

Fabriciom wrote:If you are worring about using it a DAW for live performace you have Ableton Live which to me is more like a DJ tool than anything in which case I dont see any use in going to a gig with all your tracks already mixed.

Well, for the sake of broadening your mind/opinion, you might like to check out how the world famous jazz musicians The John Scofield Band are using Ableton Live both in the studio and on stage as their "fifth band member" here:

http://www.ableton.com/index.php?main=a ... -interview

Pretty mind blowing stuff!!

Of course most recording artists use some form of backing on stage, often as you say "already mixed". Ableton Live gives "traditional" live musicians the opportunity to use loops/samples/backings on stage while maintaining flexibility and control over them. By triggering different scenes, a band can repeat sections, for example, and "go with the flow" when an improvisation takes off... all without fearing they will get out of sync with their backings.

The fact that some DJs do also find Live useful is actually secondary and is a more recent development so far as Ableton is concerned. You shouldn't let that feed any prejudices you may have

Live is truly a musician's tool. It's revolutionary, mate

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:37 pm

Fabriciom, you missed the point, but that's OK.

Fabriciom · Post by **Fabriciom** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:10 pm

The point is that for the money the best DAW in the market right now is Cubase. Unless you need to do live stuff and for that you have live. Close enough?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:54 pm

In your view of the world, I'm absolutely positive that it's close enough.

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:33 pm

Cubase... thats 722,00 EUR. Nice program.

Or then get eXT and you got 683 EUR left to use on something that will make sound... say an Evolver? Or maybe you need an audio interface... perhaps a Novation X-station 49 would suit your needs? Or a decent mic, like the Rode K2? Or a pair of Genelecs?

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:34 pm

Fabriciom wrote:The point is that for the money the best DAW in the market right now is Cubase.

Well, given that the price of Cubase SX 3.1 leaves little change from £600... for the same money you could get:

* Sonar 5 PE plus Project5 v2

* Ableton Live 5 plus Propellerhead Reason 3.0

* Adobe Audition plus FL Studio XXL

* Sony Acid 5 plus Sound Forge 8

* Mackie Tracktion 2 plus Orion 6 and energyXT

So I'm tending not to agree with you again

stag · Post by **stag** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:08 pm

Tascam US122,Cubase LE and GigaSampler: €122
Cubase SL Edition: €600
Whistle : €0.

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:10 pm

Laughing at host wars: priceless

Groet, Erik

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