INSANE!! FL Academic Version Price Increase

[Ildon]

That's my point, it doesn't matter if he was only joking, he should not have said it - in either case.

Why?

[Entheogen]

Sigh.

As length of KVR thread increases, probability of warez/crackz/H2O/ approaches 1.

But who shall this law be named after?

[arke]

Because the rich people here have no understanding for the poor people.

Just because YOU can buy Cubase with pocket change doesnt mean I don't have to save up for a long time to buy FL Studio or whatever. So I really have to be sure I want to invest the money.

Of course, a bought version is always better than the cracked one because wiht the bought you get all the support and free samples and stuff from <insert X here> site.

Once (If?) Volgin (my pet music app project) ever gets to this point, I won't be "officially" endorsing any cracked versions but I'll make damn sure that I'll seed it for others. Anybody serious about the music will buy the program in the long run, even if he does use the warez version for a while.

[arke]

Sigh.

As length of KVR thread increases, probability of warez/crackz/H2O/ approaches 1.

But who shall this law be named after?

WilliamK.

(no offense intended)

[bluedad]

Sigh.

agreed

[Ildon]

Because the rich people here have no understanding for the poor people.

Just because YOU can buy Cubase with pocket change doesnt mean I don't have to save up for a long time to buy FL Studio or whatever. So I really have to be sure I want to invest the money.

Of course, a bought version is always better than the cracked one because wiht the bought you get all the support and free samples and stuff from <insert X here> site.

Once (If?) Volgin (my pet music app project) ever gets to this point, I won't be "officially" endorsing any cracked versions but I'll make damn sure that I'll seed it for others. Anybody serious about the music will buy the program in the long run, even if he does use the warez version for a while.

Oh no, warez supporter! Get 'em!

[Entheogen]

WilliamK's law it is

Anyone on wikipedia want to add that bad boy in there?

[arke]

I don't care if people call me a warez supporter. I support warez in the sense of try-before-you-buy, or use-until-you-save-up-the-money-to-buy. I don't support warez in the sense of getting the application for free. Anybody that is serious about the music will buy the application when he has the spare change. The kiddies runing around with H20 versions of FL Studio make a few lame trance tunes that never make it and then thats it. And even if the trance tunes do make it, they'll buy it eventually.

[Reverse Engineer]

I don't care if people call me a warez supporter. I support warez in the sense of try-before-you-buy, or use-until-you-save-up-the-money-to-buy. I don't support warez in the sense of getting the application for free. Anybody that is serious about the music will buy the application when he has the spare change. The kiddies runing around with H20 versions of FL Studio make a few lame trance tunes that never make it and then thats it. And even if the trance tunes do make it, they'll buy it eventually.

No way will you EVER get me to pay for my H2o warezed Yamaha Motif

[kovacs]

Anybody that is serious about the music will buy the application when he has the spare change.

Anybody who is serious about their music will pay for their guitars, their microphones, their PCs, *and* ther software. Period. Stop stealing guitars.

[arke]

Anybody that is serious about the music will buy the application when he has the spare change.

Anybody who is serious about their music will pay for their guitars, their microphones, their PCs, *and* ther software. Period. Stop stealing guitars.

Or using the guitar of a friend. Of course, if he can't lend it to you at the moment, you're SOL. Same with the app, if it crashes because its cracked, or screwed something up, you're SOL. It's called a temporary solution and I'm all for that, sometimes you just can't get the real thing on your own pocket at the moment. It's christmas right now, anybody that doesnt have more money than they could spend will know that this is the time of the year of the empty wallet.

[Ildon]

I don't care if people call me a warez supporter. I support warez in the sense of try-before-you-buy, or use-until-you-save-up-the-money-to-buy. I don't support warez in the sense of getting the application for free. Anybody that is serious about the music will buy the application when he has the spare change. The kiddies runing around with H20 versions of FL Studio make a few lame trance tunes that never make it and then thats it. And even if the trance tunes do make it, they'll buy it eventually.

In all seriousness, I agree with you. Stuff like MOTU Symphonic Instrument is made to sound a lot better than it actually is, and I wasted 300 USD on that piece of garbage. I've lost a lot money because I've been misled by these companies. It's not a good versus evil thing, no matter how much anyone wants it to be, and using warez doesn't mean someone's a bad person.

[Hink]

Because the rich people here have no understanding for the poor people.

just for the record, I have a considerable amount of gear, but that is due to time and giving up other things...like before I buy a plasma tv I'll buy gear, I don't travel often...I'm not rich, but I'm not poor either and I can say that at least today if you spend a grand on your studio you get a lot for your money.

I remember buying a new Yamaha 4 track, a used Yamaha RX17 drum machine and a used Lyons P-bass copy and an sm57 for 999 bux.

Perhaps some people think that some of us older people that now have a few bucks put aside don't understand...yet we probably understand more.

In fact quite boldly stated (and I'll duck), I think many younger people starting in music today are very spoiled and less then grateful or appreciative. You can buy FL producer for 150 bux, in the past you couldn't even whistle a tune into a recorder for that, never mind all the synths that are free out there that can be used in FL.

Back in the day you had very few choices, I even remember some of the first digital delays (deltalab?). I remember spreading the catalogs out in front of me. "Someday I'll have that recorder, that mixing board...." When the day arrived that I could start the task of building my studio beyond a 4-track the cost was significantly less because it took me so long the whole digital scene appeared.

So yeah I understand, I also understand waiting 10 plus years to even get my feet wet...now I am completely humbled by what I have and I waited damn near a quarter century to go from 4-track and reading those catalogs (and dreaming) until now.

However never would the thought of stealing gear ever have been entertained.

[soulkraka]

*thumbs up* Hink

[Debutante]

I can't believe anyone would bitch about $100 or some odd dollar difference like this, especially for what you're getting. I say stop expecting everything to just fall into your pocket for next to nothing. $250 isn't even a months rent.