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P.T. · Post by **P.T.** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:45 pm

I don't think uprights were designed for their great sound characteristics. They are just space savers.

learjeff · Post by **learjeff** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:47 pm

Thanks, mellotronaut!

Yeah, uprights were designed to save space. And, it isn't the sound that's the problem -- at least, with the big-harp uprights, which can sound great. It's the action, due to the vertical hammers. Just not enough dynamic control. However, they made great advances in upright action starting around 1975, at the same time they were making big strides in lighter grand actions that retained the expressiveness of older heavier ones, but with more speed.

EnzymeX · Post by **EnzymeX** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:14 am

Any update on the timeframe for release of this VSTi?

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:51 am

I gotta tell ya folks...I've been playing with the latest beta for a few days now, and I love it! Excellent, Versatile piano sound, and the synthesis going on under the hood must be excellent...as the file sizes of the pianos are extremely small considering the quality. Great stuff.

Great vsti if you're looking for a piano.

EnzymeX · Post by **EnzymeX** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:19 am

TotcProductions wrote:I gotta tell ya folks...I've been playing with the latest beta for a few days now, and I love it! Excellent little library of pianos excluded, and the synthesis going on under the hood must be excellent...as the file sizes of the pianos are extremely small considering the quality. Great stuff.

Great vsti if you're looking for a piano.

Totc,

Are there any bright piano sounds this is capable of that are suitable for pop/rock, sans Sonic Reality?

Thanks!

reflekshun · Post by **reflekshun** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:10 am

The first few weeks I first tried this piano, pop/rock seemed to be the most suitable genre for it. I think the plug covers that ground very well. Its just that now I've experiemented with other styles and it has proven to be versatile. Only thing I might not use it for is something trashy or fake sounding haha (like you know an oldskool house throwback tune or something).

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:09 pm

EnzymeX wrote:
TotcProductions wrote:I gotta tell ya folks...I've been playing with the latest beta for a few days now, and I love it! Excellent little library of pianos excluded, and the synthesis going on under the hood must be excellent...as the file sizes of the pianos are extremely small considering the quality. Great stuff.

Great vsti if you're looking for a piano.
Totc,

Are there any bright piano sounds this is capable of that are suitable for pop/rock, sans Sonic Reality?

Thanks!

Absolutely, the Diamond Piano set is very full and suitable for such a cause. Plus, I've tested it with alot of outboard processing (EQ, Compression, etc..) and it responds beautifully...plus, I think the full, final release might have some kind of control over the tone. Can't verify that yet though.

Peace

spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:15 pm

This is going to be expensive right? :/

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:16 pm

spuddle wrote:This is going to be expensive right? :/

I don't think so. I think that's the whole point, is for it to not cost $300.00.

benjamind · Post by **benjamind** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:04 pm

Yeah. I'd love to see a decent piano VST for under $200. That would be nice. Imagine a realistic piano for under $200 that allows you to really play it. Can't beat that!

shanecgriffo · Post by **shanecgriffo** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:44 pm

hooray.. might be able to have a nice piano on my laptop now , -only 256 ram- my artvista virtual grand wont run with that.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:46 pm

shanecgriffo wrote:hooray.. might be able to have a nice piano on my laptop now , -only 256 ram- my artvista virtual grand wont run with that.

Dude, really, get more RAM!
Are you using XP? To me, the difference between 512 and 1024 was like night and day already. Can't even imagine what using 256 would be like!

BrufordRules · Post by **BrufordRules** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:52 pm

benjamind wrote:Yeah. I'd love to see a decent piano VST for under $200. That would be nice. Imagine a realistic piano for under $200 that allows you to really play it. Can't beat that!

Hi benjamind,

Have you try the SampleTekk pianos?

The Big One, Black Grand, White Grand... All of them are really amazing and under $200.

Check it out the demos at www.sampletekk.com

If you use K2 you can improve them with Konel's Sympathetic Resonance Scripts:

http://music.mezo.com/

PMI pianos are really cool too (Old Lady, The Emperor... also under $200)

Cheers!

daverich · Post by **daverich** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:58 pm

shanecgriffo wrote:hooray.. might be able to have a nice piano on my laptop now , -only 256 ram- my artvista virtual grand wont run with that.

This is my thinking.

I was pondering buying a receptor - but it's too much money, and I have a laptop already for which I can buy a PCMCIA soundcard for live work with this piano.

I'm using the Korg Triton Extreme at the moment and the piano on it, whilst good, is not as realistic as the 4front piano (and I've not had time to try the latest betas)

Kind regards

Dave Rich

learjeff · Post by **learjeff** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:38 pm

I'd like to see a piano like this go for $100, which is below the "petty cash" limit for many households regarding purchases. Just a wild guess, but I'd bet that a product like this would sell far more than twice as many at $100 than at $200. But I'll admit that may be a pipe dream.

For things over $100, I always discuss it with my wife first, in case there might be upcoming expenses or whatnot. (It's my rule, not hers.) As a result, I'm far less likely to buy anything over that limit. If I were a completely rational being, I would be twice as likely to buy something at $100 than $200, but it's not the case. More like 3 or 4 times as likely.

OK, so muuch for today's armchair economics!

Oh, Dave: if your laptop has a line out, consider using that at least to get started, along with free ASIO4ALL driver to get low latency. I haven't seen any really affordable PCMCIA soundcards, but the M-Audio Transit, a small USB unit with stereo line in/out, 24/96 recoding & playback, is only $80. I currently use my laptop's built-in, which is adequate, but I'll probably upgrade to a Transit at some point.

Also, you might want to try using sfz with my free jRhodes3 soundfont, in case you haven't seen that. The mono looped version is quite small, at 12MB. I use the stereo looped version (30MB).

Penny-pinchingly,
Jeff

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