V-Verb Pro - more examples

[hifiboom]

lol,

a "reverb discussion live chat" would be nice too.

[Sammas]

lol,

a "reverb discussion live chat" would be nice too.

How about accessing real reverb tanks via the internet?

http://www.tank-fx.de/

[hifiboom]

i know this site ...

its a very cool thinggy!!!

also from the technical aspect...

[Cordelia]

Why give Sammas grief? He entered this thread very politely, posting examples and asking about short reverbs.
If it weren't for Sammas, I wouldn't have found out that kmonkey was using the analog in/outs. This makes the examples much less useful (adding four conversions plus latency). It is no small part of the equation to be brushed off with a sentence- "Yeah i know for that but it sounds good to me anyway". I suspect you don't know for that or you wouldn't have created your examples that way.
What we are hearing now is: E-mu D/A, Behringer A/D, Behringer D/A, E-mu A/D, original signal plus latent reverb. So, talk of converters is not an attempt to hijack this thread, but rather to put these examples in context.
If you'd like to post examples that encourage others to listen seriously to this reverb, it might help to do just the basic work to show what the unit is capable of.

[Sammas]

Meh, I can handle it Cordelia



I would be interested in some shorter reverb examples however. I don't mind if you just pull up a room preset.


If know one is going to do it, just say and I'll be on my way.

[separanets]

Hello,

I'm meaning to buy the V-Verb in order to couple it with my guitar tube preamp. So I wonder, what will the sound be like? Will the V-Verb be compatible enough?

I read the owners manual, but still I couldn't understand about dry/wet/mix settings which is very important for the guitar signal handling (especially as my preamp doesn't have a send/return connection). So has anyone tried to use it with a guitar preamp?

Thanks in advance.

[BertKoor]

I'm meaning to buy the V-Verb in order to couple it with my guitar tube preamp. So I wonder, what will the sound be like?

Hard to say how it will act, too many variables... I suggest you take your guitar + amp to a music shop, and have a try for yourself.

[separanets]

Thanks, it's a good idea, but here it is hardly possible. Such things here are a great deal absent in local shops, so I have to come to a shop and make an order first right there (or at their web-site) and then they will deliver it to the store where I will take it away. Besides, the V-Verb costs about $250 at internet commerce web-sites.

Some while ago, as I did make an order, I went to a shop to chek the V-Verb. I was really impressed by the Verb's sounds, indeed, but we were checking it through a mic. When we got down to check it with a guitar the V-Verb broke, so I canceled my order and left the shop with nothing.


So in order to buy it for $150 I have to order it from abroad. As an alternative I can buy a used Yamaha spx 2000 for $500 also from abroad (it's 1 day left so I have to decide by tomorrow and I'm leaning to the V-Verb Pro).

Well, I've read two threats here; I'm not a sound procuder, but despite many sceptical (fairly rude though) comments, I found that the V-Verb might be an ideal device for my part and I can even save some money for something extra. Pity, sound clips have become too old since they were published and now they're no longer available.


It's no use to talk to guitar players, because they seem they admire only the g-major. I placed dedicated posts on many guitar forums and they were/are always left with no answers. That's why I'm here and in great hesitation whether to get the used Yamaha spx 2000 or a new V-Verb.

[BertKoor]

One important consideration: multi-effects units like the V-Verb and Yamaha SPX are designed to work with low-impedance line levels. Your guitar is high-impedance instrument level. This may be a problem for your amp...

So I think you're better off with a special guitar multi-effects unit like e.g. Boss ME-50, Roland GT-8, Behringer V-Amp, etc etc. Their inputs and outputs are designed to work with guitar signals and guitar amps.

[separanets]

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Well I have 3 preamps: the ADA MP-1, Rocktron Piranha and Egnator IE4. Thus, I will always have a standalone rackmount preamp before any sound processor. Besides, the ADA and Piranah have a loop that allowes to part the signal on dry and wet. Alas, the Egnater doesn't.

And have all the specs of the devices. But I can't gather from the figures and tables anything about compatibility.

You might be right, BertKoor, and I myself heard of the factor that you pointed out too, but unfortunatelly no one colud tell me exactly how it would be in reality. I found this comment at Harmoni-Central:


Running a Fender 1964 Jag through an ADA MP1 midi preamp then into the SPX, then into a poweramp. The sound quality of the effects is superb. The sound has great fidelity and clarity even on more wilder settings. The unit has functions that no other unit has, like the reverse gates and precise control over sound reflections. There is one caveat however and that is on changing programmes. There is a distinct 1 second gap of silence before a new programme comes online during a programme change. This is a killer in a live setting but can be worked around in a mixing situation where programme changes aren't as dynamic. Thus I cant give this a high score for sound quality even though the effects themselves sound so good. An effects loop could be used to work around this but is your effects loop stereo?

So that guy writes he uses his tube preamp (ADA) by direct plugging it into the Yamaha. And he also mentiones he may use the loop as well.

Here's the link
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/revi ... -2000/10/1 (http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Yamaha/SPX-2000/10/1)

Thank you for your quick replies.

[separanets]

So I think you're better off with a special guitar multi-effects unit like e.g. Boss ME-50, Roland GT-8, Behringer V-Amp, etc etc. Their inputs and outputs are designed to work with guitar signals and guitar amps.

Only now I understood that you were assuming I wanted to plug my guitar right into the V-Verb. No, not extactly.

I found out from the V-Verb's manual that the V-Verb enables to use it as a guitar processor. Moreover, there are implemented options for all cases: when a preamp has a series effect loop, parallel effect loop, no effect loop at all. For each case the V-Verb offers special settings on the global setup page.

The most important for me is that for a preamp, which has no effect loop, the V-Verb has its own, internal Wet/Dry parameter (ratio) like every typical guitar processor. Very nice.

What is not very nice that there's not master volume knob on the pane. Hope it won't be too uncomfortable.

[proaudio4]

OK,
For whatever it's worth..

I own two Lexicon PCM91 Lexicons. I love these units.
They have "that" sound I've always liked. They also own several
algorithms from the Lexicon 480L... Which I've always wanted, but could never
justify spending that much on an effect processor. I also own one Lexicon MPX500.
Actually, I bought the MPX500 years ago without hearing it. I wish I heard it before buying.
I have never bothered using it. They do not compare to the higher end Lexicon stuff.

At that time, as it was, the PCM91s cost me $2,000.00 USD each.
Several years ago, I remember hearing about the Behringer V-VERB, but never
looked into it. At that time, I thought it was just another low end reverb, like the
Lexicon MPX100. After all, it listed for less than 300 bucks. I paid more for my MPX500
which I ended up hating.

Well, about a week ago I stumbled upon a review (Sound-On-Sound?) which mentioned the V-VERB sounded
damn good for a unit in this price range.

After surfing Ebay and finding a company selling them for $135.00 USD, I decided to check one out.
Fortunately, they were in California and I live in Arizona. It only took two days to arrive.

That day, after getting out of work, I quickly threw it on my 02R in my "B" studio room using the analog ins and outs. I was really surprised on what I heard! That night, knowing I had to work the next day. I really did not get a chance to dive deep into the menus.
I also wanted to use the digital in/out to the console.

The following day, I spent a lot more time with it. I could not believe how good it sounded for $135!
Not to mention, it essentially has two stereo engines that can be configured in different arrangements, series, parallel, ect... There's no comprimise with the engines. There are TWO full stereo units. They can even be set up to use seperately from the unit - one assigned to digital in/out, the other using analog.

What surprised me was how much it sounds like the PCM91, very dense. It actually can get VERY close to that sound, but also can do a whole lot more due to its vast parameters. Man, I was surprised. Also, it really does provide some real room environments that are very transparent. Also, by configuring say one engine using reverb using a series config into the other engine set to a stereo delay, you can get some amazing rolling effects.

Believe me, I've heard all the rant about Behringer, I've been in the music business for almost 30 years.
I've worked for MSR sound and have opened for large bands. Well, I'm still recording and working on projects, but
now have to make much of my dime working out of Intel.
Will the V-VERB hold up on the road... maybe, maybe not, but for 135 bucks I'll throw it away and buy another.

Well, Today I ordered three more V-VERB units. At that price, you can't go wrong.

So far I can check the V-VERB off as being a Behringer success.

I'm going to write them and ask them to take this one step further.
Give us the option of recording our own impulses directly to intenally memory.
Of course, not with this unit, but a new model. They could through a $400.00 USD list price tag
on that one. Sign me up.

[krank]

OK,
For whatever it's worth..

I own two Lexicon PCM91 Lexicons. I love these units.
They have "that" sound I've always liked. They also own several
algorithms from the Lexicon 480L... Which I've always wanted, but could never
justify spending that much on an effect processor. I also own one Lexicon MPX500.
Actually, I bought the MPX500 years ago without hearing it. I wish I heard it before buying.
I have never bothered using it. They do not compare to the higher end Lexicon stuff.

At that time, as it was, the PCM91s cost me $2,000.00 USD each.
Several years ago, I remember hearing about the Behringer V-VERB, but never
looked into it. At that time, I thought it was just another low end reverb, like the
Lexicon MPX100. After all, it listed for less than 300 bucks. I paid more for my MPX500
which I ended up hating.

Well, about a week ago I stumbled upon a review (Sound-On-Sound?) which mentioned the V-VERB sounded
damn good for a unit in this price range.

After surfing Ebay and finding a company selling them for $135.00 USD, I decided to check one out.
Fortunately, they were in California and I live in Arizona. It only took two days to arrive.

That day, after getting out of work, I quickly through it on my 02R in my "B" studio room using the analog ins and outs. I was really surprised on what I heard! That night, knowing I had to work the next day. I really did not get a chance to dive deep into the menus.
I also wanted to use the digital in/out to the console.

The following day, I spent a lot more time with it. I could not believe how good it sounded for $135!
Not to mention, it essentially has two stereo engines that can be configured in different arrangements, series, parallel, ect... There's no comprimise with the engines. There are TWO full stereo units. They can even be set up to use seperately from the unit - one assigned to digital in/out, the other using analog.

What surprised how much it sounds like the PCM91, very dense. It actually can get VERY close to that sound, but also can do a whole lot more due to its vast parameters. Man, I was surprised. Also, it really does provide some real room environments that are very transparent. Also, by configuring say one engine using reverb using a series config into the other engine set to a stereo delay, you can get some amazing rolling effects.

Believe me, I've heard all the rant about Behringer, I've been in the music business for almost 30 years.
I've worked for MSR sound and have opened for large bands. Well, I'm still recoriding and working on projects, but
now have to make much of my dime working out of Intel.
Will the V-VERB hold up on the road... maybe, maybe not, but for 135 bucks I'll throw it away and buy another.

Well, Today I ordered three more V-VERB units. At that price, you can't go wrong.

So far I can check the V-VERB off as being a Behringer success.

I'm going to write them and ask them to take this one step further.
Give us the option of recording our own impulses directly to intenally memory.
Of course, not with this unit, but a new model. They could through a $400.00 USD list price tag
on that one. Sign me up.

Did you sign up just to post this?

[sonicfire]

behringers v-verb is unbelievable for the asking price! i just ordered two

[bmanic]

OK,
For whatever it's worth..

I own two Lexicon PCM91 Lexicons. I love these units.
They have "that" sound I've always liked. They also own several
algorithms from the Lexicon 480L... Which I've always wanted, but could never
justify spending that much on an effect processor. I also own one Lexicon MPX500.
Actually, I bought the MPX500 years ago without hearing it. I wish I heard it before buying.
I have never bothered using it. They do not compare to the higher end Lexicon stuff.

At that time, as it was, the PCM91s cost me $2,000.00 USD each.
Several years ago, I remember hearing about the Behringer V-VERB, but never
looked into it. At that time, I thought it was just another low end reverb, like the
Lexicon MPX100. After all, it listed for less than 300 bucks. I paid more for my MPX500
which I ended up hating.

Well, about a week ago I stumbled upon a review (Sound-On-Sound?) which mentioned the V-VERB sounded
damn good for a unit in this price range.

After surfing Ebay and finding a company selling them for $135.00 USD, I decided to check one out.
Fortunately, they were in California and I live in Arizona. It only took two days to arrive.

That day, after getting out of work, I quickly through it on my 02R in my "B" studio room using the analog ins and outs. I was really surprised on what I heard! That night, knowing I had to work the next day. I really did not get a chance to dive deep into the menus.
I also wanted to use the digital in/out to the console.

The following day, I spent a lot more time with it. I could not believe how good it sounded for $135!
Not to mention, it essentially has two stereo engines that can be configured in different arrangements, series, parallel, ect... There's no comprimise with the engines. There are TWO full stereo units. They can even be set up to use seperately from the unit - one assigned to digital in/out, the other using analog.

What surprised how much it sounds like the PCM91, very dense. It actually can get VERY close to that sound, but also can do a whole lot more due to its vast parameters. Man, I was surprised. Also, it really does provide some real room environments that are very transparent. Also, by configuring say one engine using reverb using a series config into the other engine set to a stereo delay, you can get some amazing rolling effects.

Believe me, I've heard all the rant about Behringer, I've been in the music business for almost 30 years.
I've worked for MSR sound and have opened for large bands. Well, I'm still recoriding and working on projects, but
now have to make much of my dime working out of Intel.
Will the V-VERB hold up on the road... maybe, maybe not, but for 135 bucks I'll throw it away and buy another.

Well, Today I ordered three more V-VERB units. At that price, you can't go wrong.

So far I can check the V-VERB off as being a Behringer success.

I'm going to write them and ask them to take this one step further.
Give us the option of recording our own impulses directly to intenally memory.
Of course, not with this unit, but a new model. They could through a $400.00 USD list price tag
on that one. Sign me up.

Did you sign up just to post this?

Was wondering exactly the same.. guerilla advertising?

- bManic