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Polychrome · Post by **Polychrome** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:18 am

I've been thinking some about different roles for music, relating to sleep/etc states. Some rambling thoughts....

music for -

Meditating - long pieces, with few abrupt changes, and generally minimalistic in terms of how much stuff is going on at any one time.

Falling asleep - long pieces, with slow episodic content...like a long bedtime story, that meanders in an interesting way, eventually leading to calm quiet sleepytime vibe.

Dream propaganda (listening while asleep) - epidsodic, either short with frequent changes (like dreams themselves), or longer and more like ambient soundscapes.

I wish I had a stereo in my bedroom. I'd like to test some variations on making extended mp3 CDs for this sort of thing. Maybe starting with a long piece meant for falling asleep, then silence for a fair while (empty MP3s), then a mix of longer and short music pieces, maybe seperated by periods of silence, or looped multiple times. Basically 5-8 hours, with music not being played constantly.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:28 am

I was complaining in another post that I never seem to be able to get any sleep. This just popped into my head- the one album which never fails to put me right to sleep is ORBUS TERRARUM by The Orb

cloudspine · Post by **cloudspine** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:22 pm

Is the project open for all?
And how would one join, ie, upload a track...?

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:30 pm

@Cloudspine

Yes, the project is still alive. However, my laptop (my main box) is in repair right now and this has put my creativity and updates to all my sites on hold for about 10 days. I'll update it soon and begin to help people either find a collaboration partner or else I'll design a method for some of us to work together.

In the mean time, here is an interesting news article on creativity and sleep:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/01/21/sl ... index.html

-Shane

Soniccat · Post by **Soniccat** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:06 am

Definately an interesting dream Shane. I too believe that music can affect the subconscious in various ways, or maybe it is the superconscious that is being affected. Any way this is an interesting project that you have started here and as you may already know of me through Mystahr, I would like to be included in this project, I will email you with any info that you may need. I too have a dream that pertains to music although it may be of similar but slightly different. One of the main atractions to me of Ambient music stems back to my childhood. I use to hear sounds, not voices but basic ambient sounds although they were made by everyday ocurrances, cars driving on the highway, birds singing, people talking and assorted everyday noises, but I seemed to here them in a very musical way. The most aluring of these noises for me was the sound of a fan, the constant hum and drone that it createed was very pleasing. I also loved the sound of airplanes flying high in the sky, I also had a shortwave radio and some times would just listen to the static and would create in my head sort of ambient music with pictures and sometimes storylines to go along with the images. When I first heard ambient music in the early 1970's I new that someday I would like to create this type of music because it felt very natural to me and it would allow me to access those sounds from my childhood. The dream I have now, and I don't want to sound morbid here, is to create the music for my deathbed ( I am not dying anytime soon, hopefully) but I would like to be able to leave this earthly existance with those sounds that are appealing to me. So my quest has always been to access those sounds and create music that will allow me to slip away and hopefully take those thoughts and images that the music helps create. I just think it is a better way to leave this life. Great thread BTW.

timboblackbo · Post by **timboblackbo** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:59 am

Just found the topic on the link from Futurehaus....

I guess you could call my track

Never Alone

dream-inspiring. It's very "drifty", very relaxing and thought provoking (I guess !!!).

I'd put down a few loops and fx in Acid Pro for some lyrics I wrote ages ago, and then went to bed that night. My wife was expecting our first baby, and the music made me dream of the baby's journey from being a small infitesimal lifeform, to someone so special, and breaking out into such a (sometimes) harsh world. I can still picture the images everytime I play the track.

The next day I was trawling some sample CDs and came across a baby gurgle sample, and thought that I'd definitely have to use it. Everytime anyone has reviewed the finished track, they always comment on the baby gurgle!!

If you'd like to use the track in your project, feel free.

TB

püRe · Post by **püRe** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:19 pm

I guess this track would qualify...28 minutes of sampled jugngle and slow, dreamy atmospheres...

http://www.jannemecek.net/music/Dreaming_2/

mystahr · Post by **mystahr** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:10 pm

Wow; talk about a resurection of an old thread here....

Where is the project standing these days

Pav · Post by **Pav** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:21 pm

I'm sorry for intercepting your conversations about sleeping and seeing nice stuff but how is it that i wake up and mumble some really shite pop tune that i really hate - and i know i hate it but i still keep on mumbling it on and on and on (any freudian answers wont do,maybe, seen it done it). I do admit i like some pop stuff (and i do like some pop tunes, no matter what people say about them, some of them are top quality), still, mumbling shit i can't stand in the morning dazzles (bazzels, whatever) me greatly. Anyone????

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:46 pm

the title of my CD is 'lost in sleep' ...
currently under construction ...
late may for release ...
all new material ...

quite interested in sleep disorders , sleep deprivation , lucid dreaming ...

mystahr · Post by **mystahr** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:48 pm

normal wrote:the title of my CD is 'lost in sleep' ...
currently under construction ...
late may for release ...
all new material ...

quite interested in sleep disorders , sleep deprivation , lucid dreaming ...

Cool

Pav · Post by **Pav** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:34 pm

Hey Soniccat
you steal my idea (joking - meaning the noises about airplaines and stuff). Some noise adds warmth to the tune - i added basic recording i did with my mic of my desktop ventilator (dont know how you call it in english - 'hoover??? (American)) and it seriously improved my tune which was sort of jazzy - blues electronica. It does not sound transistor type any more. Talking about ambience...

Hypertone · Post by **Hypertone** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:48 pm

Soniccat wrote:Definately an interesting dream Shane. I too believe that music can affect the subconscious in various ways, or maybe it is the superconscious that is being affected. Any way this is an interesting project that you have started here and as you may already know of me through Mystahr, I would like to be included in this project, I will email you with any info that you may need. I too have a dream that pertains to music although it may be of similar but slightly different. One of the main atractions to me of Ambient music stems back to my childhood. I use to hear sounds, not voices but basic ambient sounds although they were made by everyday ocurrances, cars driving on the highway, birds singing, people talking and assorted everyday noises, but I seemed to here them in a very musical way. The most aluring of these noises for me was the sound of a fan, the constant hum and drone that it createed was very pleasing. I also loved the sound of airplanes flying high in the sky, I also had a shortwave radio and some times would just listen to the static and would create in my head sort of ambient music with pictures and sometimes storylines to go along with the images. When I first heard ambient music in the early 1970's I new that someday I would like to create this type of music because it felt very natural to me and it would allow me to access those sounds from my childhood. The dream I have now, and I don't want to sound morbid here, is to create the music for my deathbed ( I am not dying anytime soon, hopefully) but I would like to be able to leave this earthly existance with those sounds that are appealing to me. So my quest has always been to access those sounds and create music that will allow me to slip away and hopefully take those thoughts and images that the music helps create. I just think it is a better way to leave this life. Great thread BTW.

Wow I feel the same way about ambient noises. I think most of my musical influences are from my childhood. I almost get goosebumps when I watch an old cartoon and it has all those cool sound effects that I was so fond of as a child. Got any music online?

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:35 pm

Pav wrote:...still, mumbling shit i can't stand in the morning dazzles (bazzels, whatever) me greatly. Anyone????

Maybe it's time to call the exorcist?

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:58 pm

Sh@ne S@nders wrote:I just woke up a few minutes ago. Last night I made an interesting loop which had a melismatic, catchy melody. It was very simple and soothing with a laid back tabla beat. So I took a melatonin sleeping aid (a natural hormone) and crawled into bed with the loop in repeat-mode. I was in a good mood because my American football team (Tennessee Titans) won their playoff game.

I had a kind of dream that I have been having my whole life. It's a flying dream where the ability to fly requires great effort on my part. Normally in these dreams I jump off of a canyon type vista and have to maintain the floating through concentration. This dream was similar but this time it was a vast lake with an incredible sunrise before me.

Here's the cool part: during the flight over the lake I encountered a group of strange trees growing out of an island not much bigger than the root system of the trees. They were like gnarly weeping willows and they were releasing tiny cotton-swab like flower petals into the wind. It was as if it was snowing in slow-motion, very peaceful and serene. And as I drifted past these trees there was a magic frog in one of the higher boughs singing and croaking MY MELODY! It was so cool. Oddly, I had to spin around on my back to see him because the tree was much taller than the height of my flight. This is the first time that has happened. Normally I have to keep my face and belly toward the ground.

It's odd how the mind constructs a scenario around the unconscious stimulus of a musical loop. There was more to the dream that I can't really organize in my mind enough to write about, but the end of it was just as I described above. I can't recall ever having a coincidence like this with music during sleep. I intend to try it again. I highly recommend it. Perhaps my story will plant the seed in your mind and you will get a cool dream, too.

God bless!

-Shane

That´s so COOL!!!
It really shows that music is more than superficial rythms and sounds...it´s a part of our spiritual being and without music, or art for that matter,
we would be zombies...

I have been having dreams were I make these awsome tracks...very diffuse though, like clapping in time with a tribaldruming rockwall (?)

Always fashinates me...

We are more than flesh and blood...feed your spirit
:harp:

strange but wonderful dream