Klanghelm DC8C released, advanced compressor for WIN and OSX 32&64Bit [UPDATED: ext. sidechain]

[ST54]

1+ for an auto gain function

[Giusmex]

hi guys

i have two questions


1) for a "generic" electronic song ( kick, snare, hi hats, pads, lead synth, synth guitar, etc) how and where would you punt this excellent compressor in you master effect chain?


2) how do i reach the two " saturation" modes ?

thanx

[sinkmusic]

Tony can you tell me how can I get a similar sound to Snap setting using the advanced mode?

+1
Are the 4 modes very different flavours/modes which makes the comp act differently whatever the settings are, or is it more like "quick presets" which you can match by adjusting every deep settings ?


Tony, do you have any idea how long will the intro price last ? Will you remind us a couple of days before the end of the promo ?

[Mercado_Negro]

Are the 4 modes very different flavours/modes which makes the comp act differently whatever the settings are, or is it more like "quick presets" which you can match by adjusting every deep settings ?

Yeah, they're different. Each mode makes changes behind the scenes which can't be exactly replicated in the "expert" layout. You can get close to those 4 modes in the "expert" layout but you'll never get identical results.

[tonhelm]

Tony can you tell me how can I get a similar sound to Snap setting using the advanced mode?

+1
Are the 4 modes very different flavours/modes which makes the comp act differently whatever the settings are, or is it more like "quick presets" which you can match by adjusting every deep settings ?


Tony, do you have any idea how long will the intro price last ? Will you remind us a couple of days before the end of the promo ?

Of course I will announce the ending of the intro price at least one week before the price increase. But I can ensure you, that DC8C will still be very affordable.

[filter303]

Are the 4 modes very different flavours/modes which makes the comp act differently whatever the settings are, or is it more like "quick presets" which you can match by adjusting every deep settings ?

Yeah, they're different. Each mode makes changes behind the scenes which can't be exactly replicated in the "expert" layout. You can get close to those 4 modes in the "expert" layout but you'll never get identical results.

That explains why I couldn't get the sound of the snap mode with the expert mode

[Mercado_Negro]

Are the 4 modes very different flavours/modes which makes the comp act differently whatever the settings are, or is it more like "quick presets" which you can match by adjusting every deep settings ?

Yeah, they're different. Each mode makes changes behind the scenes which can't be exactly replicated in the "expert" layout. You can get close to those 4 modes in the "expert" layout but you'll never get identical results.

That explains why I couldn't get the sound of the snap mode with the expert mode

Yeah. It's not so obvious I think but people don't realize they're purchasing 5 compressors when they buy DC8C.

[Arrested Developer]

Yeah. It's not so obvious I think but people don't realize they're purchasing 5 compressors when they buy DC8C.

...and that's also a reason why with DC8C i'm always unsure (so far), if i really get the "best possible" result...
It's just the fact, that you have so many possibilities...

Therefore, i hope that there will be an exchange of experiences, tips & tricks, since it's not just "one" compressor with five knobs to adjust.

[kylen]

Tony - Thanks for a really fine vst mastering compressor. I've picked up a license and am putting it in to my projects head-to-head with CL1, DensityII, Old Timer, and a couple of others. I'm spending a lot of listening time with DC8C and it is my current favorite. To be honest I like the way it pumps and rocks with the mix, kind of like Density II but slightly less dense if you know what I mean.

I'm wondering if you might consider 'normalizing' the ratio range, or redistributing the range (I'm not sure what to say here). In other words, I'm working on a rock re-master, if I select preset 'vintage bus compressor' everything is fine for certain parts of the song, when things get too squished I can dial the range knob down and make it sound better. But the range knob only seems to make a difference when it is < 5. I'm thinking that I could automate range thru out the song, for a certain passage I might need more compression, at other times less. Range seems like a good way to manage that.

I want to reinterate - this is a really fine, transparent & clean (If you want) mastering compressor. When I say squished above I could correct that by changing any number of settings of course. I just happened to find that 'range' seemed a little limited and wanted to make a comment.

[tonhelm]

Tony - Thanks for a really fine vst mastering compressor. I've picked up a license and am putting it in to my projects head-to-head with CL1, DensityII, Old Timer, and a couple of others. I'm spending a lot of listening time with DC8C and it is my current favorite. To be honest I like the way it pumps and rocks with the mix, kind of like Density II but slightly less dense if you know what I mean.

I'm wondering if you might consider 'normalizing' the ratio range, or redistributing the range (I'm not sure what to say here). In other words, I'm working on a rock re-master, if I select preset 'vintage bus compressor' everything is fine for certain parts of the song, when things get too squished I can dial the range knob down and make it sound better. But the range knob only seems to make a difference when it is < 5. I'm thinking that I could automate range thru out the song, for a certain passage I might need more compression, at other times less. Range seems like a good way to manage that.

I want to reinterate - this is a really fine, transparent & clean (If you want) mastering compressor. When I say squished above I could correct that by changing any number of settings of course. I just happened to find that 'range' seemed a little limited and wanted to make a comment.

first thing I thought, when reading your comment, was: Why not just automating the ratio instead of the range? But let me think about it for a while. Maybe I can implement a kind of dedicated intelligent automatic gain control in the future. The range knob is just the limit of the max possible gain reduction ATM. So when you do not have more than 5 dB GR you can't hear the effect of the range knob. Maybe there's a way to make it a bit smarter.

Tony

[kylen]

first thing I thought, when reading your comment, was: Why not just automating the ratio instead of the range? But let me think about it for a while. Maybe I can implement a kind of dedicated intelligent automatic gain control in the future. The range knob is just the limit of the max possible gain reduction ATM. So when you do not have more than 5 dB GR you can't hear the effect of the range knob. Maybe there's a way to make it a bit smarter.

Tony

Thanks Tony, I'll try something with the ratio. The range behavior makes sense now, I'm getting 2.5db of GR with range at 100. GR stays at 2.5db until range goes down to about 3, then it reduces to 1dbGR and so on.

This is a really fine plugin to push a mix into it makes a noticable improvement and lets everything continue to breath!

[zvenx]

Hi, is there a vst3 version? if not will there be one?
thanks
rsp

[tonhelm]

Hi, is there a vst3 version? if not will there be one?
thanks
rsp

There will be a VST3 version. But first I have to port DC8C to RTAS.

[zvenx]

Thanks, just got your email...thank you....Won't Rtas be dead in a year or two though......(not saying not to do it), but isn't AAX, replacing it?
rsp

[zvenx]

maybe someone else mentioned it.......I think Over Sampling should be a global setting.....whenever I change a preset it goes back to off setting.. of course the best is one for real time and one for rendering
VST2 Nuendo 5.5


rsp