Well the rule before required countries to sing in their native tongues, and then everyone envied Malta who could use English (and UK and Ireland always did well).
Seems the real seriousness crept in when old-style run countries like Belarus and Azerbaijan started writing blank cheques and made it a matter of national pride to do well.
Eurovision...
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No, Malta would have to use Maltese and Ireland the original Irish Gaelic...V'ger wrote:Well the rule before required countries to sing in their native tongues, and then everyone envied Malta who could use English (and UK and Ireland always did well).
They already do! Look at the point allocation of this "oldstyle-run" countries and you'll see that national pride is the only thing they're after (not the quality of the music!)V'ger wrote:Seems the real seriousness crept in when old-style run countries like Belarus and Azerbaijan started writing blank cheques and made it a matter of national pride to do well.
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Yes Belarus has become a farce with the President meddling with the scores etc, the 2011 "I Love Belarus" is beyond pathetic, although they made top ten a few years ago.
But the real no-hoper ESC country has to be Portugal in my opinion. They have never won and never will. Seems being on the fringe of Europe has done something to their music taste or something as it's all a bit odd, although I would love to be proven wrong one day.
But the real no-hoper ESC country has to be Portugal in my opinion. They have never won and never will. Seems being on the fringe of Europe has done something to their music taste or something as it's all a bit odd, although I would love to be proven wrong one day.
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Now look at this from a slightly different perspective
When Abba won the contest in 1974, it was irrevocably changed. They raised the bar. They also rewrote the "rule-book".
No pain, no gain! Or have I got that backwards?
Did anyone notice the TV scenes from the Ukrainian Parliament last week? Some people have very strong feelings regarding their national language. Others may take it for granted.seismic1 wrote:
Is it completely ridiculous to suggest that some countries might even consider changing their national language in order to achieve international acceptance on the Eurovision stage? I realise that this question may appear to be ludicrous on a superficial level but think about the implications (not only within the ESC sphere of influence).
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Once "rules" are introduced, the once quaint idea behind the ESC becomes tainted and any pretence that the competition is a "fun" event will be lost forever.
When Abba won the contest in 1974, it was irrevocably changed. They raised the bar. They also rewrote the "rule-book".
No pain, no gain! Or have I got that backwards?
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I must admit that if I think of Portugal, no well-known musicians would come into my mind... From Spain I could name a lot of artists, but from Portugal...if I hear Portuguese songs they're mostly from Brazil.V'ger wrote:Yes Belarus has become a farce with the President meddling with the scores etc, the 2011 "I Love Belarus" is beyond pathetic, although they made top ten a few years ago.
But the real no-hoper ESC country has to be Portugal in my opinion. They have never won and never will. Seems being on the fringe of Europe has done something to their music taste or something as it's all a bit odd, although I would love to be proven wrong one day.
Maybe Portugal have not enough money to buy good songs...
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Maybe, if it's really to be a 'song' contest, countries should just submit sheet music and lyrics and then a house band and singers perform the songs 'neutrally'.
Maybe the lyrics could be randomly translated into different languages by google so no one knows who wrote what (kind of trashes the whole idea of lyrics being 'lyrical' but, meh, for the greater good).
If performers are allowed then they must wear a uniform black outfit. With a bag on their head. On a dimly lit stage with no pyrotechnics. And no audience to influence things.
I think it's got legs...
Maybe the lyrics could be randomly translated into different languages by google so no one knows who wrote what (kind of trashes the whole idea of lyrics being 'lyrical' but, meh, for the greater good).
If performers are allowed then they must wear a uniform black outfit. With a bag on their head. On a dimly lit stage with no pyrotechnics. And no audience to influence things.
I think it's got legs...
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Is it really a song contest or is it just a promotion for the Euro dollar?
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Next year's UK entry looks like it's sorted then...GaryG wrote: If performers are allowed then they must wear a uniform black outfit. With a bag on their head. On a dimly lit stage with no pyrotechnics. And no audience to influence things.
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What's the Euro dollar? A new transatlantic currency?Rangtangtang wrote:Is it really a song contest or is it just a promotion for the Euro dollar?
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Really? Well its seems nobody else got the memo.seismic1 wrote:When Abba won the contest in 1974, it was irrevocably changed. They raised the bar. They also rewrote the "rule-book".
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Don't really want to resurrect this thread since I'm no fan of ESC, but I find it quite funny and strange that the next year's finals will be held in my city, Malmö, which we won in competition with Stockholm. I wonder if I could make some fine money renting out my apartment during that week. Hm...
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seismic1 wrote:I you have a roof and the weather is anything like the UK this year, you should be able to charge top dollarjensa wrote:I wonder if I could make some fine money renting out my apartment during that week. Hm...
I think I will have to wait with my plans to re-wallpaper the place to after the event. But then Copenhagen is just 25 minutes from the arena and I guess it will swallow many of the tourists.