GSi VB3 question

[MikeCL]

Total aside, you wouldn't happen to have access to a Juno-106 would you?

Nope sorry

[MikeCL]

I might need to map these buttons to the motif I need something that goes 0-127 in a toggle.. While the Akai toggles it's still pressure sensitive in the toggle mode.

[AdmiralQuality]

I might need to map these buttons to the motif I need something that goes 0-127 in a toggle.. While the Akai toggles it's still pressure sensitive in the toggle mode.

Hmmm, I'd expect there must be options on either product that can compensate for this. VB3 has a CC range I'm sure. (Will check when I get a chance.)

But I'd also expect the Akai has a setting for whether pads are switches or momentaries. And also, my question was, does it send a STREAM of updates when you press on it, until you let go? Or does it just send the "velocity" of the original hit to the pad?

Seems like a poor analog for organ. That's why I wasn't keen on it from the start. Lots of products have assignable switches that are like normal switches. Those pads are meant for playing drums and stuff and function as switches as an afterthought, right? And again, I'm not sure offhand what options it gives you for interpreting the pad hits. Recording it as MIDI and looking at it in a list editor will tell you though. Why wonder?

[MikeCL]

Here is the screenshot of my config for the lpd 8



and yes VB3 does have a CC range however hitting the pad as I checked with a MIDI CC checker it's random with each press.. so one setting might work better then another but a solid toggle switch (no pad) would be key here. Oh and yes it seems to only send the velocity info on the first hit and no stream but I haven't seen anything with assignable switches at least that don't cost $100+ this was done really cheap on short notice.

The korg Nanon control will be here this week (Wed.) it has buttons on that too I might be able to use.. They are NOT pressure sensitive that I know of and checked so I might have to map the stuff to that.

[AdmiralQuality]

Here is the screenshot of my config for the lpd 8



and yes VB3 does have a CC range however hitting the pad as I checked with a MIDI CC checker it's random with each press.. so one setting might work better then another but a solid toggle switch (no pad) would be key here. Oh and yes it seems to only send the velocity info on the first hit and no stream but I haven't seen anything with assignable switches at least that don't cost $100+ this was done really cheap on short notice.

The korg Nanon control will be here this week (Wed.) it has buttons on that too I might be able to use.. They are NOT pressure sensitive that I know of and checked so I might have to map the stuff to that.

Set the range to 1. Zero is release, anything else is "on".

[MikeCL]

Are you talking about the PC field?

I changed them all to 1 however it's still sending velocity info, The harmonics I can trigger that but it requires a solid tap to make sure it triggers but triggers at the CC level I have which is 127.

[AdmiralQuality]

Are you talking about the PC field?

I changed them all to 1 however it's still sending velocity info, The harmonics I can trigger that but it requires a solid tap to make sure it triggers but triggers at the CC level I have which is 127.

I assume it sends zero when you let go, and any other value other than zero when you press a pad. So yes, set the software to switch between 0 and 1. Anything between 1 and 127 is on, right?

[AdmiralQuality]

Right click on the percussion control in VB3, select Max Value and set it to 1. Make sure Min Value is 0.

[MikeCL]

Are you talking about the PC field?

I changed them all to 1 however it's still sending velocity info, The harmonics I can trigger that but it requires a solid tap to make sure it triggers but triggers at the CC level I have which is 127.

I assume it sends zero when you let go, and any other value other than zero when you press a pad. So yes, set the software to switch between 0 and 1. Anything between 1 and 127 is on, right?

yes anything between 1-127 is on and 0 when off However each hit of the pad might get you a different number.. so say I have in VB3 67 will trigger the switch.. My tapping of the pad might be 1-127 but it misses the #67 trigger if you understand.. I was hoping any number between 1-67 would trigger but it seems number specific.

[AdmiralQuality]

Are you talking about the PC field?

I changed them all to 1 however it's still sending velocity info, The harmonics I can trigger that but it requires a solid tap to make sure it triggers but triggers at the CC level I have which is 127.

I assume it sends zero when you let go, and any other value other than zero when you press a pad. So yes, set the software to switch between 0 and 1. Anything between 1 and 127 is on, right?

yes anything between 1-127 is on and 0 when off However each hit of the pad might get you a different number.. so say I have in VB3 67 will trigger the switch.. My tapping of the pad might be 1-127 but it misses the #67 trigger if you understand.. I was hoping any number between 1-67 would trigger but it seems number specific.

Set the Max value on the VB3 control to 1. Then anything 1 or over will turn it on.

And it does seem you'll need to set a toggle mode on the Akai, the VB3 doesn't seem to offer one for the perc switches, just the Leslie. (This is an entirely normal and correct implementation though, it's the toggle option for the Leslie that's the "extra" feature.)

[MikeCL]

I remember you telling me to set the max value to 1 which I did but then it never triggers the switch which is odd no matter how hard you hit it.. and I'm talking smashing hit..

doing some testing with it on 1 it will sometimes trigger but to trigger you have to press the pad so light I would never expect one to touch a pad that light and still then it's iffy.. I had better luck with a higher number.

The Akai is already in toggle mode.. it's the velocity that's mucking everything up..

When the korg gets here since those buttons are not pressure sensitive I'm going to try and map it to that.. Not how I wanted it but better then pulling my hair out over this hah..

The knobs work very well however

[hibidy]

Wonder if we'll ever see x64 vB3. Doesn't seem a priority.

I've been asking for this for ages. I don't know if the plug was made with an older code that isn't easily converted, of if the company is just way behind with no plans of updating.

[MikeCL]

I haven't had any issues yet with it running in windows 7 64 but it would be nice to know some progress is being made on a x64 version of VB3.

[AdmiralQuality]

Wonder if we'll ever see x64 vB3. Doesn't seem a priority.

I've been asking for this for ages. I don't know if the plug was made with an older code that isn't easily converted, of if the company is just way behind with no plans of updating.

Generally it's not that difficult a job to port to 64 bit (at least not for Windows). I'm sure we'll get it at some point.

[MikeCL]

Looks like the Korg will do what I want the buttons next to the sliders is 0-127 so they can be set as toggle and monetary as well.

It will be here tomorrow so I get to play with it when I get home.



After all this is over with I will see about modding the LPD8 to make the pads a little more responsive.