MixControl Pro Discontinued, V2 TBA.

[SAW75]

You dick head

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[SAW75]

I wish I could apologize for my opinion, but my opinion stands. Actually, I have a far worse opinion of TeamDNR now. Before I was simply not surprised about dropping development. Now... oh well.

[xamido]

Lol, who cares, you're the only one who looks like a heartless human being here.

[GeorgeZ]

There will be no upgrade fee for current users. That's all I'll say.

V2 eh? Ok, how bout a compromise... a donation button?

[SAW75]

Lol, who cares, you're the only one who looks like a heartless human being here.

lol for sure.

[hibidy]

There will be no upgrade fee for current users. That's all I'll say.

V2 eh? Ok, how bout a compromise... a donation button?

I'll do a donation button. Or, I even help you beta the thing (how hard could it be? x64 win7) Pretty good at finding bug (or confirming there are not any )

[Krakatau]

You dick head

Shocking the mods allow this to continue.

The dark side of kvr...

...hasn't it been also a plugin's name in the database, as well as fatass BTW ?

[Nanakai]

Glad everyone has such confidence in my work and vision.

Sorry! Like I said, it just seemed like you guys weren't making enough off of MCP to keep up with development. Glad to know you're still in the game. I will gladly hit the donate button if it goes up.

Actually, I have a far worse opinion of TeamDNR now.

First you hate them for going on sale, then for dropping development, and now you hate them more for keeping it up and giving out free upgrades to existing users?

[chokehold]

After reading the last page, I'm somehow sad.

Not because of Reason's unfortunate story or so, but just to see how little appreciation there is for what he actually did do and achieve.

I do agree, it was VERY un-serious business telling everyone to get MixControl for $29 or $39 or what it was because the price would be upped to $199 ... and then not doing it.

And I also agree, it was also VERY 'flaky' that MCP was reduced to a "sale price for a limited time", which then continued to stay after the time limit, got extended, and now finally sat at "Purchase now for only $49.00 USD until 5/31!" for fecking ages.

But then...
Anyone here who payed more than $39 for the first MixControl?
Anyone here who payed for the upgrade to MixControl Pro?
Anyone here who knows he'll have to pay for the upgrade to MixControl Pro?
Anyone?

Thought so.

Because in my experience, the KVR community is much too mean to fork out $199 or probably even $99 for a decent new plugin with 1st class support and the possibility to help improve it.

For the price you all got it - is there any equally decent alternative?
Not that I know of. Synthmaker, SynthEdit, prefab-built, Win x86 only, shitty GUIs, limited or rudimentary set of processors, zero or near-zero support, compatibility issue ridden, minimal quality beginner algorithms, zippy and tinny sounding ... yeah, maybe some of those around.

But decent and performant DSP code with ALL the processors you'll ever need in one, an un-cluttered and professional GUI, free updates, and beside all that it's highly reliable and flawlessly compatible, even with a setup as exotic as Reaper x64 on OSX that I use.

A top notch product that definitely WOULD be worth $99 (from my perspective, probably $199 from a company point of view) with free upgrades and all if Reason asked for that kinda money?

Thrown before the wolves for $19/$29/$39/$49 or whatever the prices were?

AND SOMEONE HAS THE NERVE TO COMPLAIN?!
Because he was too cheap and mean to buy in at the nearly-at-all-times reduced prices? Or because he didn't manage to get the best price like others did?

Srsly?!

That's the reason I'm sad.
Give the guy some credit, will ya.

I'll listen to his sob story if it helps me understand his motives, and I'll gladly offer to help in any way I can (probably not many), if it helps to take pressure off TeamDNR and to improve their/his product.

All that, and I don't even use MCP anymore.

Not because I feel like profiling myself as a do-gooder in public or because I'd be expecting any money out of it, but because I appreciate what Reason has achieved, and that he mingles in the "community" and listens to suggestions ... I think that deserves a little more appreciation than just "here's $39, gimme dat" and "he got it for $19, I have to pay $39, you're a crook!".

€0.02

[christianmusicmaker]

scalawag time to change the thread title maybe?

Done!!!

[jethrobull]

Because in my experience, the KVR community is much too mean to fork out $199 or probably even $99 for a decent new plugin with 1st class support and the possibility to help improve it.

Dont think its us being mean.Some people just flat cant afford to pay certain prices and if a plug comes on sale here or anywhere else (apparently thats what the BARGAIN CENTRE and market place is for?) whats wrong with buying it?

[chokehold]

I currently have plugins for sale, and IMO not bad ones.
You'd be surprised what reactions I get.

Plugin new 120€ with iLok authorization.
My price 80€ incl. iLok transfer.
Suggestion $50 (not 50€).

Sort of thing.

Like I as the seller am the one who can be so fecking happy that some random guy out there wants me to keep $25 for a plugin that cost me over 5x that price - rather than he as the potential buyer can be happy he found it for 80€ including all fees instead of 120€.

That's not "can't afford", that's just mean "wanna have but don't wanna pay".

[Compyfox]

I guess this clears why I didn't get an answer via mail. I had in the back of my head that MCP2 was in the pipe, so I didn't understand all the fuzz. And this was the reason why I wrote "did anyone even aks?!".

Now Reason confirmed that it's not dead, but needs an evolution to the "own team" - which is only logical. So the fuzz was in vain.


I'd also raise my voice for an upgrade fee. You folks deserve it, and I think you also need it. Looking at the "previous customer discounts" and "free for current users", it's nice to deal with you people. But that alone doesn't bring the bread on the table. Then again, my personal opinion - even though I do like "lifetime upgrade" deals.


Glad to hear that you're doing well again, Reason.

Here's to v2 of DNR MixControl Pro v2!
(hopefully with the same GUI, I like the current one)

That's not "can't afford", that's just mean "wanna have but don't wanna pay".

You don't have any idea how much I can relate. Then again - different topic.

[musikmachine]

After reading the last page, I'm somehow sad.

Not because of Reason's unfortunate story or so, but just to see how little appreciation there is for what he actually did do and achieve.

I do agree, it was VERY un-serious business telling everyone to get MixControl for $29 or $39 or what it was because the price would be upped to $199 ... and then not doing it.

And I also agree, it was also VERY 'flaky' that MCP was reduced to a "sale price for a limited time", which then continued to stay after the time limit, got extended, and now finally sat at "Purchase now for only $49.00 USD until 5/31!" for fecking ages.

But then...
Anyone here who payed more than $39 for the first MixControl?
Anyone here who payed for the upgrade to MixControl Pro?
Anyone here who knows he'll have to pay for the upgrade to MixControl Pro?
Anyone?

Thought so.

Because in my experience, the KVR community is much too mean to fork out $199 or probably even $99 for a decent new plugin with 1st class support and the possibility to help improve it.

For the price you all got it - is there any equally decent alternative?
Not that I know of. Synthmaker, SynthEdit, prefab-built, Win x86 only, shitty GUIs, limited or rudimentary set of processors, zero or near-zero support, compatibility issue ridden, minimal quality beginner algorithms, zippy and tinny sounding ... yeah, maybe some of those around.

But decent and performant DSP code with ALL the processors you'll ever need in one, an un-cluttered and professional GUI, free updates, and beside all that it's highly reliable and flawlessly compatible, even with a setup as exotic as Reaper x64 on OSX that I use.

A top notch product that definitely WOULD be worth $99 (from my perspective, probably $199 from a company point of view) with free upgrades and all if Reason asked for that kinda money?

Thrown before the wolves for $19/$29/$39/$49 or whatever the prices were?

AND SOMEONE HAS THE NERVE TO COMPLAIN?!
Because he was too cheap and mean to buy in at the nearly-at-all-times reduced prices? Or because he didn't manage to get the best price like others did?

Srsly?!

That's the reason I'm sad.
Give the guy some credit, will ya.

I'll listen to his sob story if it helps me understand his motives, and I'll gladly offer to help in any way I can (probably not many), if it helps to take pressure off TeamDNR and to improve their/his product.

All that, and I don't even use MCP anymore.

Not because I feel like profiling myself as a do-gooder in public or because I'd be expecting any money out of it, but because I appreciate what Reason has achieved, and that he mingles in the "community" and listens to suggestions ... I think that deserves a little more appreciation than just "here's $39, gimme dat" and "he got it for $19, I have to pay $39, you're a crook!".

€0.02

f**king brilliant post!

[Krakatau]

After reading the last page, I'm somehow sad.

Not because of Reason's unfortunate story or so, but just to see how little appreciation there is for what he actually did do and achieve.

I do agree, it was VERY un-serious business telling everyone to get MixControl for $29 or $39 or what it was because the price would be upped to $199 ... and then not doing it.

And I also agree, it was also VERY 'flaky' that MCP was reduced to a "sale price for a limited time", which then continued to stay after the time limit, got extended, and now finally sat at "Purchase now for only $49.00 USD until 5/31!" for fecking ages.

But then...
Anyone here who payed more than $39 for the first MixControl?
Anyone here who payed for the upgrade to MixControl Pro?
Anyone here who knows he'll have to pay for the upgrade to MixControl Pro?
Anyone?

Thought so.

Because in my experience, the KVR community is much too mean to fork out $199 or probably even $99 for a decent new plugin with 1st class support and the possibility to help improve it.

For the price you all got it - is there any equally decent alternative?
Not that I know of. Synthmaker, SynthEdit, prefab-built, Win x86 only, shitty GUIs, limited or rudimentary set of processors, zero or near-zero support, compatibility issue ridden, minimal quality beginner algorithms, zippy and tinny sounding ... yeah, maybe some of those around.

But decent and performant DSP code with ALL the processors you'll ever need in one, an un-cluttered and professional GUI, free updates, and beside all that it's highly reliable and flawlessly compatible, even with a setup as exotic as Reaper x64 on OSX that I use.

A top notch product that definitely WOULD be worth $99 (from my perspective, probably $199 from a company point of view) with free upgrades and all if Reason asked for that kinda money?

Thrown before the wolves for $19/$29/$39/$49 or whatever the prices were?

AND SOMEONE HAS THE NERVE TO COMPLAIN?!
Because he was too cheap and mean to buy in at the nearly-at-all-times reduced prices? Or because he didn't manage to get the best price like others did?

Srsly?!

That's the reason I'm sad.
Give the guy some credit, will ya.

I'll listen to his sob story if it helps me understand his motives, and I'll gladly offer to help in any way I can (probably not many), if it helps to take pressure off TeamDNR and to improve their/his product.

All that, and I don't even use MCP anymore.

Not because I feel like profiling myself as a do-gooder in public or because I'd be expecting any money out of it, but because I appreciate what Reason has achieved, and that he mingles in the "community" and listens to suggestions ... I think that deserves a little more appreciation than just "here's $39, gimme dat" and "he got it for $19, I have to pay $39, you're a crook!".

€0.02

f**king brilliant post!

I f**king agree that it is f**king brillant !

BT(F)W i f**king apologise for that f**king nasty habit of being f**king unpolite ,...just trust me : worse than a f**king hiccup !