whats a good "vintage" eq

[antithesist]

That yellow t-racks EQ is a cool and funky little plugin. I have an extra license for just the EQ that I could sell for cheap. I also have extra licenses for the cool and funky little yellow t-racks compressor, the yellow EQ/meter suite/shell combo, and for the Fairchild pictured previously. Y'know, like If someone wanted to fill a niche and discover their style before investing too deeply in the tools and all suchlike.

[jens]

actual component level modeling

[jens]

I'm not questioning Scott's skills as a programmer at all. I'm sorry if you interpreted it that way, so I want to make that clear.

No, you were merely attempting to ridicule a competitor's product...

the price is the real selling point. It definitely fills a niche for people starting out who want to learn the ropes and discover their style before investing too deeply in the tools.

then you went on to

- explain why you doubt the product in question was an authentic Pultec emulation, even though no-on ever claimed it was

and to


- explain why your prodcut on the other hand was an authetic emulation of that very hardware equalizer, even though this thread isn't about Pultec emulations at all.


With just a bit more practice, your propaganda antics will really get you
somewhere.



I'm tempted to bet my left testicle, that the hilarious&silly (even if profoundly irritating) 'like if you like' IK-spam on Facebook is your doing.

[Brian @ IK Multimedia]

Jens, Please mail your left testicle to IK Multimedia.
Mailing addresses are here. You pick which office.

Truth is, I wish I had come up with that one. It consistently delivers results. I'm glad you follow us on Facebook so closely, though. I actually took you for an IK hater all this time, based on your posting history. I guess I was wrong about you after all. My apologies.

Back to that posting history though. You still cannot will reality away simply by denying it. As one of our close followers on Facebook, you no doubt have already seen these photos taken during the T-RackS modeling process, but I am linking to them anyways, as you seem to have forgotten.

[ObiWonder]

or wait to see what we have coming up next...

Interesting..

You have no idea how excited we are too, its hard to keep things under wraps sometimes...

[jethrobull]

Another vintage Equalizer.

[jam92189]

That yellow t-racks EQ is a cool and funky little plugin. I have an extra license for just the EQ that I could sell for cheap. I also have extra licenses for the cool and funky little yellow t-racks compressor, the yellow EQ/meter suite/shell combo, and for the Fairchild pictured previously. Y'know, like If someone wanted to fill a niche and discover their style before investing too deeply in the tools and all suchlike.

how much would u be selling the license

[alpinethosemyriads]

Maybe been mentioned, but I recommend the HLS channel by Waves. It's on sale right now for $49. It's fantastic on vocals and guitars!

[Dean Aka Nekro]

jam92189, a word about those 3 choices -
Waves Renaissance EQ was a real game-changer when it came out in 1998. It was one of the very first real attempts at recreating the analog warmth and feel of hardware in the digital domain, and was very highly regarded at that time. It is a "general vibe" type of plugin though, which takes inspiration from various analog units, as opposed to actually being modeled on any particular piece of hardware. Around this time, the early T-RackS 1.0 raised the bar with actual component level modeling of a vintage channel strip from the Calrec UA-8000 "Polar" desk formerly housed at Abbey Road, and was perhaps the very first desktop software to do actual analog modeling like this. I don't believe anyone else was doing this back in 1998.

The RenEQ still holds up, It sounded great in 1998 and why would that change? I do think the IK T-RackS yellow/classic EQ is a good one also. Neither work that well for my personal needs/tastes. The team over at Softube may well be newer to the game than IK Multimedia is but their offerings are pretty much superb across the board also. Age should not be any concern when evaluating/listening to a DSP Plug-In. IK possibly did it first but it is useless trivia IMveryhumbleHO

Stillwell Vibe-EQ is a cool and funky little plugin, and the price is the real selling point. It definitely fills a niche for people starting out who want to learn the ropes and discover their style before investing too deeply in the tools. But if you are looking for a serious, authentic Pultec emulation, I think it's a pretty safe bet that it is not modeled on an actual hardware unit, which are quite rare and VERY expensive, if you could even find one for sale. And then true analog modeling requires specialized diagnostic test equipment and skillset to accurately translate that raw data into unique non-linear algorithms.

If You had actually checked out the "cool and funky little plug-in" that is Vibe-EQ, You would know it is not at all attempting to replicate a pultec cut/boost type thing at all Brian, So I'm really lost on the comparisson
jam92189 dude if You are liking the T-RackS EQP-1A then I'd highly recommend
trying out Waves' PuigTec, Hell they even give you the full setup of an EQP-1A and the lesser mentioned but IMveryhumbleHO really great MEQ-5. Bomb Factory did that also but that is useless trivia. If its the EQP-1A which is what You want Softube's official TubeTech is lovely and Nomad Factory apparently offer some decent vintage EQs (Don't know for certain but IIRC there is an EQP-1A type along with the MEQ-5 type). Plenty to GAS and Vibe off Still the IK EQP-1A with the original/yellow/classic T-RackS EQ for the mid-range section would be good stuff/work well. Going back to the LiquidMix where building custom EQs from different parts of many vintage and modern classic Equalizers is a feature, As far as I know the only ITB tool for that sort of thing is the already mentioned in the thread Nebula, It colours well also. I sometimes chain various different EQ plug-ins to get say the low-end of a Pultec, the mid-range of a more modern parametric for cuts and then for example Eiosis AirEQ or Maag 4 EQ for the higher frequency qualites plus its always fun to combine flavours

The T-RackS Vintage Tube Program Equalizer EQP-1A is component-level physical model of an actual vintage Pultec EQP-1A unit acquired by IK Multimedia. When you use it in a mix, you can be confident that the sound of this plugin is the authentic sound of the original vintage hardware.

Are there plans to add the MEQ-5 section/as an add-on to the TrackS range as IMveryhumbleHO it would give it alot more range and a more complete feel, I hope so anyway and if it hasn't come up before then please put it to the team Brian dude

And regarding a couple of those other plugins you mentioned, you might be glad if you waited just a little bit.

I know that was to jam92189 but my new dedicated audio machine is a few hundred quid short of completing, The old one died and I kept on putting off replacing it and was/am just about scrapping by with a shite laptop/not powerful enough for alot of newer DSP plug-ins. So I have alot of demoing to do when I have the new beast up and running Brian. I've been able to demo bits but never in the context of a full-on multi-tracked project which was really frustrating. So I look forwards to all what is to come and all what i have to catch up with (and its alot of stuff all in a multiple page .txt document file...it keeps on growing!!!)

All the best to all as always

Dean

[Trakstar]

+1 for the MEQ 5 section and a new neve 33609 emulation

[Mercado_Negro]

Stillwell Vibe-EQ is a cool and funky little plugin, and the price is the real selling point. It definitely fills a niche for people starting out who want to learn the ropes and discover their style before investing too deeply in the tools. But if you are looking for a serious, authentic Pultec emulation, I think it's a pretty safe bet that it is not modeled on an actual hardware unit, which are quite rare and VERY expensive, if you could even find one for sale. And then true analog modeling requires specialized diagnostic test equipment and skillset to accurately translate that raw data into unique non-linear algorithms.

It's a shame you had to use all these adjetives, desguising your true purpose to sell your plug-ins, to bring the skills of the developer in question.

FYI, VibeEQ is not based on a Pultec-style equalizer. It's just an equalizer with color and curves based on the developer taste.

Brian, these kind of comments make IK Multimedia look really bad, consider your words before posting, please, it does more harm than good, in my opinion.

@thread: I'd take IK's pultec over any other emulation any day, count Waves, UAD and Softube, which are the ones I've tried.

I'm not questioning Scott's skills as a programmer at all. I'm sorry if you interpreted it that way, so I want to make that clear.

What I meant is simply that component level measurement and modeling is a completely different discipline than software programming, and it is a very costly and time-consuming one, and requires specialized equipment not typically found in a software developer's workspace. It requires a separate skillset from programming that can only be learned through experience, and IK has pretty much blazed that trail in audio DSP. There was no book on it when IK started. I'm just saying the two are apples and oranges. What we do is different than most developers. There are only a handful of developers who do this type of modeling, and to varying degrees.

The process is different for developing an algorithm freely by ear, based only on what sounds good to you (which Scott is good at), and the far more rigid process of taking highly scientific measurements of rare vintage circuitry in a lab, painstakingly charting the response, and then reverse engineering it, figuring out how you can efficiently and faithfully express that mathematically (which very few developers do). Only after all that do programming skills even come into play.

You just wrote the same, Brian, it's really sad to see this behavior from a company sales representative. First of all, you can't compare these two plug-ins and their development because a) they're not based on the same hardware and b) they weren't modeled using the same techniques. ObiK looks like a nice guy but your
behavior doesn't make IK Mulimedia look good and I'm pretty sure your company doesn't support this attitude (I wonder if your boss actually knows how you treat "competitors" on forums). Sales representatives like you don't increase sales, it's quite the opposite. As a friendly advice, don't do that again

[antithesist]

That yellow t-racks EQ is a cool and funky little plugin. I have an extra license for just the EQ that I could sell for cheap. I also have extra licenses for the cool and funky little yellow t-racks compressor, the yellow EQ/meter suite/shell combo, and for the Fairchild pictured previously. Y'know, like If someone wanted to fill a niche and discover their style before investing too deeply in the tools and all suchlike.

how much would u be selling the license

PM'd a few minutes ago, thanks!

[Trakstar]

Another vintage Equalizer.

[jam92189]

well I recentyly finnished building my new computer so I was able to test a few things out and to be honest I just did not really like the waves one as much. But with what I already have and what I want I am able to get where I want to go easy with the things I have chosen. alot of it is what I need and what works for some does not for others.

[Trakstar]

well I recentyly finnished building my new computer so I was able to test a few things out and to be honest I just did not really like the waves one as much. But with what I already have and what I want I am able to get where I want to go easy with the things I have chosen. alot of it is what I need and what works for some does not for others.

You can also have my cryq vintage parametric EQ if you like, Free of charge on the house.