Devs hijack every thread?

[trimph1]

Yes, those IK ones are like in every thread. Synthmaster dev can also go ''opposite'' way most of the time.

Excuse me??? My product already speaks for itself, go read the professional reviews on international magazines!

Eh? Hc...where is your head at?

I've never seen kv331 'spam' threads .....

[A.M. Gold]

I don't think this argument, or racist confrontation, or whatever it is, is about the spirit of what the "active" developer-posters do, but more the context.

As I said, there is only one developer who I've seen really act heavy handed and almost like they are using some kind of saturation technique, and I've seen them being confronted on it multiple times.

But let's look at the broader question. George doesn't saturate, and he makes his little product-plug asides in threads quick and to the point. He's not obnoxious at all, but one reason why he can do that is because the vast majority of other developers who have products listed here don't do it. Most not usually, and many not ever.

If even half of them started doing it on a regular basis, it would be a (free) developer self-promotion train wreck on this forum. I suspect that will never happen, so people like Lotuzia and George can continue to do it. I don't have a problem with that, but others think in terms of the broader principle and ask "is this public forum, where people come to discuss software music making, really the right place to insert free developer advertising whenever and wherever some developers choose?"

[trimph1]

mmmm...maybe have two completely separate forums? One for developers and what they are producing and another for the rest of us? And neither the twain shall meet?

I dunno..I just find this whole thing to be rather odd. To say, for example, that someone is looking for an EQ does this then mean that the fellow looking is going to be inundated with every kind of 'unpaid advertising' under the sun? He wanted info did he not? Ampsims anyone? Same thing...get all kinds of information. Even if it is from....THEM.

[Lotuzia]

Well a lot of regular users do that too. They praise their favorite synth in every thread they see. And sometimes in a less related manner to the subject of the thread than a carefull dev will do.

I understand your point but if someone looks for say a VA synthesiser, I cant see why the developer of a VA synth could not just say " you might want to try this one", and the same if a certain feature is asked/required like " synths with all parameters controllable with midi CC control", I cant see why a dev could not mention one of his synths capable to do this, when all other forum members feel free to post their choices.

Because it is what happens actually, what a few people see as spam is simply just answering to certain precise demands ...

So should the devs have less rights than the regular user ? Someone asked the same rules for everybody a few posts above. I fully agree with this. A developer voice has the same weight/value than a regular user's one in such posts. ( or eventually less as people noticed that we tend to be rather biased with our own instruments, for good reasons : Passion )

My 0.002

LtZ

[trimph1]

That is just it. Show a little bit of enthusiasm for your creation and suddenly you are seen as spamming a thread? Eh?

I don't get it. Why should you refrain from suggesting something you created?

Especially on threads that are ASKING about VA instruments for pete sakes.

[Tricky-Loops]

If someone makes a thread called "Good bass synths" then he/she has to take into account that some developers will praise their own products, too. And there's nothing wicked about it. If the synth really can create a good bass, it's worth the post - if recommended by the developer or by an independent musician, that's totally irrelevant...

[hibidy]

I dunno. I've never understood why some people act the way they do. Or why the coffee dispenser at the auto mall NEVER gets it right. It's baffling.

[Sendy]

And just think how many of our own posts actually are mindless shit, trolling or arguing for the sake of arguing. At least their spam can be informative

Speak for yourself

[braj]

I think it would be great if you could just hide topics you don't want to see or people you don't wish to hear from. Muting is there but you still see that the person posted, or the topics they created. I think that would go a long way towards curbing conflicts in the forums.

[stillshaded]

muting threads would be handy.

[A.M. Gold]

Enthusiasm with a chance to directly make money behind it is in a different category than user enthusiasm. I'm sorry, it just is. That seems very clear to me and I'm not sure why there should be an air of mystery around it.

One might also say the same thing about reviews of products that are written by people who sell the products. They have these kinds of "reviews" in the Musician's Friend catalog (or they did for a while), and of course they are viewed with a grain of salt by some.

It's also a different thing to come into a general discussion of a certain type of instrument or effect and tout the particular version of that product which you happen to make and profit off of vs. simply getting involved in a thread someone else started about your product. The latter would never be considered spamming, no matter how enthusiastic you are, the former could be considered spamming by some.

[hibidy]

Nope. It doesn't work. The reaper forum is proof of that. You have unlimited mutes and and unsubscribe from threads. It does a little bit of good, but it's not really a deal.

Best thing? Walk away from the chalupa. Every time you whack a mole, another comes up. It's an endless game. Mutes are only good for the biggy offenders (and even then people peek )

[vurt]

I think it would be great if you could just hide topics you don't want to see or people you don't wish to hear from. Muting is there but you still see that the person posted, or the topics they created. I think that would go a long way towards curbing conflicts in the forums.

id tell you about the script i wrote which removes threads that use any key words i input, but i might be accused of spamming...

[hibidy]

Plenty of examples in this thread of why mutes don't work

[braj]

I'm thinking more how Facebook works, you just don't see it, it would be blocked. Have It would also help the developers who would rather not have some people posting in their threads.