Sylenth1 Awesome Alternatives?

[Trancit]

I'm demoing MUX right now and i have to say, this synth is one of the best sounding synths that iv'e heard, no joking. This is a highly capable synth.

Thx for confirming... sometimes I got the feeling my ears are different

Problem is i'm not really into modular stuff, but i think that even just the Silencio module alone can keep you busy for a very long time.

I am working on a SilenCio V2 atm with more deeper options and advanced workflow...
Even if you don't like modular stuff, believe me, to dive a bit deeper into the VST is a very good idea...
It's quite easy, because everything is already premade (Filters/Envelopes/Soundsources... etc.) but you will get astounishing results...

Note not at least the incredible flexibilty of just the Oscillators...

They are not perfect, but I made some tutorial vids for the MUX and the Oscillator:

MUX Basics:


Oscillator:


My Youtube channel with some additionel ones:

Is there an option to change Silencio? I mean, i really prefer an interface without tabs or sub-windows, so is there a way to make the filter module for example, to be part of the main GUI of Silencio instead of opening in another mini window?

Last question, how do i assign the LFO destination?

1. Working with those sub-windows is atm the only option to have access to all parameters of the deeper modules like Oscillator/Sampler/ Multimode Filter...

2. The developer has the possibility to built a "complete" GUI like you see under the "Devices" i.e. MuSynth...
Perhpas, we can convince him to make such a GUI for a monster synth like SilenCio... there is a good chance

3. The most important shortcut for using MUX with SilenCio is "ALT + left mouse click" ... this toogles processing on/off for each of the modules on the GUI... not needed modules inside a patch, I've turned off to save CPU (they are greyed out then)

4. Download the last SilenCio.mux from this link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mgk7tm64grf6g06/SilenCio.Mux

This is the last "Init" patch I made for it... just download it and in the header of the MUX VST click on the first folder symbol on the right hand side of the preset name (hoover the mouse over it and it should give the hint: Open Preset)...
This opens a file browser, where you can locate the downloaded preset... or just drag n drop the downloaded file onto the MUX GUI

5. The LFO connections are predefined by my routing...at the bottom of the GUI there are all the modulation sources and as well LFO A and B
ALT+Left click on the LFO module to turn process on then turn up the matching parameter depending, which pre defined source you want to modulate...

Of course you can change the predefined routing by clicking at the top of the GUI the module, which is called "Go Deeper"... locate the LFO modules in the modular window move the wanted one one or two lines up to be able to see the output triangle and drag a connection to whereever you want...

Hope this helps...

[Trancit]

That's a problem as I don't have Sylenth1 anymore, but if the demo version has all the same presets that the full one does...I could download it and hopefully figure out which one it is.

There is one preset I made back then, and I had uploaded it into the KVR presets section (should still show up under my Examigan screen name I guess), it sounds real cool, at least I think it does anyway

It's a simple lead sound but I liked it:

https://soundcloud.com/examigan/the-passage

It's at about 2:09 in the link above. Lots of Sylenth1 was used for that song, plus a bit of Wusikstation and Soniksytnth2.

I'll have a look at it...

[D N A]

Why do you need Sylenth replacement ?

To be honest, I don't think there is any. The combination of great UI, sharp/tight/bright sound, tons of presets (factory + third party) is really hard to beat.

If I would pick "by sound" I would try Diversion - I remember that it had also very nice, bright sound which reminded me Sylenth.

If I would pick "by UI" and the overall easyness of creating sounds, I don't think there is any. The only one I know having similar easyness (which usually comes with ... limited features ) and very intuitive UI is ... V-Station but it's a totally different synth

If I would pick "by presets / genres" I would pick Nexus 2.


So overall, there is no Sylenth replacement.
There are some potential replacement synths but they can't replace sylenth entirely. Usually they :
a) offer more features = more complicated = less intuitive UI = slower presets programming OR
b) less presets OR
c) less bright / sharp sound

So ? No, Zebra, Diva, Synthmaster, Diversion, Nexus2, Ana, Dune, Massive, Truepianos aren't Sylenth replacements

[Edmsoundware]

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Heres
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[Nightpolymath]

In MUX I wish there was a way to add say a waveform selection window to the front panel. If they have to do it via a knob then so be it. I agree there is great power in this software. Even a "simple" one oscillator synth can get pretty complex with all the modulation, effects, and envelope options available. One can coax great sounds out of MUX although sometimes I find it lacking, how shall I say it, "character" or "bite." It is a polite, digital sound that would suit most kinds of EDM (if you're into that).

[UltimateOutsider]

OP, I wouldn't judge Massive by its presets. It's a very capable synth that I feel can defo serve as a Sylenth1 replacement. It IS harder to master, though. Worth some time learning the interface, though, IMO.

I'll toss in another vote for Sonic Academy ANA. Their 1.5 update was pretty significant and it's shaping up to be a formidable synth, with a lot of very modern-sounding, usable presets.

I really WANTED Waves Element to be the Sylenth killer. It's definitely got the interface and sonic potential. Unfortunately, Element's unison is rather harsh and inflexible compared to the other synths mentioned, including Sylenth. I'm hoping they'll open up the unison in a future update, because that will make it my personal Sylenth replacement and recommended beginner VSTi for synth newbies, because the UI layout is second to none (if you can live with the logarithmic sliders and physical knobs).

[fluffy_little_something]

Since this has almost become a Mux thread, I have Mulab and thus also Mux, which is a part of it. It is very flexible, indeed, it can sound modern and slick, which is what most people seem to want these days, judging from the sound samples linked here (I myself am not a fan of that plasticky sound, though, always reminds me of that terrible CSI lab scene music ). But it can also sound relatively warm and sizzling, when tweaked right.

What I like least about Mux is certainly the user interface. My mind works in a very graphic way. Somehow I just don't like having zillions of identical looking controls spread all over the place. I want my good old-fashioned unified GUI that emulates the control panel of a hardware synth A GUI with individual sections and different controls and stuff, always at the same location, so that my mind can put everything on a mental map. For people whose minds work differently, Mux might be great, one can create almost any sound with it. But one has to know how to do it, else it can take quite some time and may not yield the desired result at all. It really is for synth enthusiasts with lots of time and patience, maybe not so much for mere musicians. For those the Saurus might be better. I read it was updated recently.

What I like most about Mux is that one can draw one's own waveforms. Undo and Redo shortcuts come in very handy in this respect One suggestions might be a blank option in the waveform context menu.

[chk071]

What I like least about Mux is certainly the user interface.

I watched the Mux videos above, and i must say the interface is pretty much turning me off... i know that due to the modular and complex nature of this thing the interface has to have a certain complexity too, but plugins like this aren't for me really. I like to have it all nicely laid out in front of me, without much hassle to use loads of tabs, or worse, windows with much clicking and adjusting. Perfect for me is to have a small amount of controls i can lay on the knobs of my midi controller and fiddle around. But then, each to its like, there are plugins of all coleur, so.

[ferez21]

Started to renovate Basic Synth



I think we can make some nice looking synths here, nothing spectecular though but at least more pleasing to the eye.

[lofty]

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[fluffy_little_something]

What I like least about Mux is certainly the user interface.

I watched the Mux videos above, and i must say the interface is pretty much turning me off... i know that due to the modular and complex nature of this thing the interface has to have a certain complexity too, but plugins like this aren't for me really. I like to have it all nicely laid out in front of me, without much hassle to use loads of tabs, or worse, windows with much clicking and adjusting. Perfect for me is to have a small amount of controls i can lay on the knobs of my midi controller and fiddle around. But then, each to its like, there are plugins of all coleur, so.

Same here, hopeless old-skooler

[Trancit]

But you are still aware that since the new version it is possible to make much more "old fashioned" user interfaces since it supports backround pictures now... so it's up to you know to create the ones, which work best for you...

A point a have to admit is the lack of graphical elements...
As I said already, the developer has the possibilty to create a GUI including everything like the one of MuSynth, but he told me, that really much work...

I would like to see some additional graphics to like level meters, waveform display etc...

On the other side, I already discussed with him, if not creating a cool standalone synth using the MUX algorythms would be a possible way in future since it seems, that the modular approach seems a bit overwhelming/ complicated/ too much for many people...

Let see, what the future brings on the table for us

[Phil Sonic Academy]

We used Sylenth for a lot of our earlier Sonic Academy tutorials... it was such a great synth at the time. due to lack of support from Lennar even tho we where recommending it to all our subscribers and the large price tag we stopped using it and built ANA. Which is why there is a bit of similarity in UI.

ANA can be warm or more aggressive depending on what filters / waveforms you use.


Try the Demo http://www.sonicacademy.com/SonicXtra/ANA+Synth/

or

Check out some preset examples below.

[fluffy_little_something]

But you are still aware that since the new version it is possible to make much more "old fashioned" user interfaces since it supports backround pictures now... so it's up to you know to create the ones, which work best for you...

A point a have to admit is the lack of graphical elements...
As I said already, the developer has the possibilty to create a GUI including everything like the one of MuSynth, but he told me, that really much work...

I would like to see some additional graphics to like level meters, waveform display etc...

On the other side, I already discussed with him, if not creating a cool standalone synth using the MUX algorythms would be a possible way in future since it seems, that the modular approach seems a bit overwhelming/ complicated/ too much for many people...

Let see, what the future brings on the table for us

Well, it may be possible to use background images etc., but frankly, I am a musician, I don't want to waste my time and energy on doing the developer's job so to speak. After all, I don't really need a specific synth, for instance Mux, as long as there are so many alternatives out there, which get the job done in a more comfortable way.
So basically the questions/issue is not whether or not the musician knows how or is willing to use such a modular synth, but whether or not the developer of the program can appeal to and convince enough customers and thus afford to offer and further develop it in the long run as he probably needs to sell a certain number of licenses in order to make ends meet.

I suppose most people only want to invest so much time and energy into creating any one patch, thus they will pick what gives them a good result within a reasonable period of time. Modular synths are capable of more complex sounds than most regular synths, but frankly, who really needs that for musical reasons? Very few people do.
I bought Mulab because of the DAW functionality, the only reason I considered getting Mux as a separate plugin for some time after switching to another DAW was that I wanted to continue to use the patches I had already created in Mulab. But in the end I abandoned them and recreated them as best as I could in a few conventional plugins.

I guess it is a bit like with hardware synths. There have been modular hardware synths for a long time, but most musicians have never used such devices as they can cover their required sounds with regular synths as well, maybe - without knowing it - even appreciating the "limitations" of non-modular synths as there you can say, I got the best possible bass or pad out of that particular synth, what more can I ask for?
With Mux an envelope generator alone has about a dozen or so parameters that make you feel like you should or need to set them in order to get the best possible patch.

[fluffy_little_something]

We used Sylenth for a lot of our earlier Sonic Academy tutorials... it was such a great synth at the time. due to lack of support from Lennar even tho we where recommending it to all our subscribers and the large price tag we stopped using it and built ANA. Which is why there is a bit of similarity in UI.

ANA can be warm or more aggressive depending on what filters / waveforms you use.


Try the Demo http://www.sonicacademy.com/SonicXtra/ANA+Synth/

or

Check out some preset examples below.

Even if your synth were great, I totally dislike your registration/subscription system. Thus I won't even test it, too many accounts already. Nor do I like the idea of a customer class society...