Pianoteq 5 is out!

[BlackWinny]

There's some addon that resembles a Yamaha C7?

Not specifically, but tweaking the D4 gave me the feel of my old piano teachers Yamaha Studio Grand (I don't recall which model it was).
I was able to get some Baldwin type feels from the K2 also.

There are additional free old instruments also for those who would like to change sometimes... and for those who would like to experiment from another starting point.

All these additional instruments are free! And some of them are wonderful!
Free stuff

[BlackWinny]

There's some addon that resembles a Yamaha C7?

Not specifically, but tweaking the D4 gave me the feel of my old piano teachers Yamaha Studio Grand (I don't recall which model it was).
I was able to get some Baldwin type feels from the K2 also.

There are additional free old instruments also for those who would like to change sometimes... and for those who would like to experiment from another starting point.

All these additional instruments are free! And some of them are wonderful!
Free stuff

One had been lent by Gilbert O'Sullivan, another one by the Haendel Haus Fundation, etc.

[BBFG#]

Yes, I specifically wanted to give the CP Electric a good try, but they don't let you try the free add-ons without buying.
The more I read the variations and specifics on this though, the more I want it.

[pethu]

Much of the free stuff is exceptionally good -- the harpsichord, cimbalom, clavichord, bells & carillons and not least the CP-80 are very, very useful indeed. I have not had first-hand experience with the CP-70s and -80s, so what I relate to is mainly hearing it in live shows and live recordings. But to me, the pianoteq version just sort of feels right...

Leaving the pianos aside for a bit, let's not forget the (commercial) chromatic percussion stuff which is JAWDROPPINGLY good. My absolute favourite is the steelpans collection. Not that I'm into calypso and steel drums, but the hand pans, spacedrum and tank drum sounds are extremely musical and fits into lots of atmospheric and ambient music! Here, physical modelling really does wonders for autenticity - the way each instrument is "humanised" not by manipulating samples and EQ, but by actually altering the strike points between strikes is something else!

[bharris22]

I have Pianoteq 3 Play. According to the Pianoteq website I should be able to upgrade to Standard 5 for $190 from this version. Can anyone tell me if this is the same upgrade? http://audiodeluxe.com/products/modartt ... rd-upgrade. It appears to be, but on the Audio Deluxe website it states "You must own a Pianoteq 5 Stage license to activate this upgrade", which I don't. BTW, the cost for this upgrade is $165 when you add it to the cart .

Thanks!!

[BlackWinny]

I have Pianoteq 3 Play. According to the Pianoteq website I should be able to upgrade to Standard 5 for $190 from this version. Can anyone tell me if this is the same upgrade? http://audiodeluxe.com/products/modartt ... rd-upgrade. It appears to be, but on the Audio Deluxe website it states "You must own a Pianoteq 5 Stage license to activate this upgrade", which I don't. BTW, the cost for this upgrade is $165 when you add it to the cart .

Thanks!!

Ahem... Why don't you make your upgrade directly on the original website? It's the same price! (only 5% of difference).
And when it's the same price... it's much simpler (and much more sure in case of problems) to go directly by the original website.

By the way, the original website says precisely:

Upgrade Pianoteq Stage/Play (version 3 to 5) to Standard 5 >>> 150 €

while Audiodeluxe doesn't give the least precision.

And 150€ is not $239... 150 € is $208

So the discount of this website is in fact a false discount!

They say "List price: $239 !"

But no. It's a lie. The exact price for this upgrade is not $239 but €150 which means... $205! Not $239!

So their discount is not a huge discount... it is only a 5% discount! (I have computed to verify)

So I would buy directly on the original website. Because I have much more guaranties in case of any problem when I see that already the website "Audiodeluxe" do a lie when they pretend to make a huge discount.

And in addition they don't mention that this upgrade is for owners of old version starting only at the version 3! What is happening for the guy who purchases this upgrade for his version 1 or 2? He's screwed! Because as it is not the original website they will never refund him! And there will be certainly more than one who will fall into the trap!

When you see a very slim difference between the original website (whatever it is) and another which is simply a distributor... no hesitation: the original website. After say... 15%... it can merit reflection. Not for 5% or 10%. Because these 5% or 10% can drive to big regrets in case of problem.

EDIT: in fact they write below in the text: "PLEASE NOTE: You must own a Pianoteq 5 Stage license in order to activate this upgrade to Pianoteq 5 Standard." It means that the original website gives more flexibility to the purchaser since on the original website the same upgrade to the Standard edition applies exactly the same manner to all the previous versions starting from 3.

No hesitation: the original website. This "Audiodeluxe offer" is twice a lie about their so-called "discount" and an offer "in the smog" (or "in the dark" if you prefer) about the conditions required.

There's also something else: whilst it is still the behavior of many marketing websites, the european community directives forbid a marketing website to obligate a visitor to create an account BEFORE the final checkout! The visitor must be in right to consult his cart, add elements, remove elements, etc. without having to already create an account. Create an account and after that... decide to cancel the operation has driven the visitor to give his personal informations for nothing and to an unknown company which will remain unknown for him but with the only real result that after that he will receive newsletters, spams, etc. It has been forbidden by the EU in the same spirit as the opt-in/opt-out rules 5 years ago.

[jnoseworthy]

Hi Folks:

As a Blind Pianoteq "standard" user using Reaper, I am able to access the preset list of the D4 piano and I can edit the parameters as well. I cannot, however, understand how to access the K2 piano through Reaper. If anyone can help me with this, I would appreciate it all over the place.

[aMUSEd]

If you can get the preset menu open you can use arrow keys to navigate it - it responds to all 4 arrow keys so you can get to any sub menu that way. How did you access the D4 preset list in the first place?

[BBFG#]

There's also something else: whilst it is still the behavior of many marketing websites, the european community directives forbid a marketing website to obligate a visitor to create an account BEFORE the final checkout! The visitor must be in right to consult his cart, add elements, remove elements, etc. without having to already create an account. Create an account and after that... decide to cancel the operation has driven the visitor to give his personal informations for nothing and to an unknown company which will remain unknown for him but with the only real result that after that he will receive newsletters, spams, etc. It has been forbidden by the EU in the same spirit as the opt-in/opt-out rules 5 years ago.

I think both AudioDeluxe and JrrShop require an account to see the 'in-cart' price. (Both are American companies though). The only stores I deal with that don't do this, also don't do 'special pricing' and I often see discrepancies on what the MSRP being discounted is from many of them. It helps to do some research. I've also noticed that AD sometimes is a few days behind in posting the same sale you get from the developer.
I have bought from most of them and am pretty confident I got the best deal at the time from them.

Does a salesman lie? (are their lips moving?)
But seriously, I've found worthwhile deals with each of them.
You have to give an email to download the Pianoteq trial. I don't find that unreasonable.

[superscan]

Just did a quick demo of v5. The sounds are very much improved over previous version. I found I was previously able to get my stock Logic X Steinway sample to sound as good. This new version adds significant realism and depth. Certainly worth a deeper dive. Very impressive so far!

[bharris22]

I have Pianoteq 3 Play. According to the Pianoteq website I should be able to upgrade to Standard 5 for $190 from this version. Can anyone tell me if this is the same upgrade? http://audiodeluxe.com/products/modartt ... rd-upgrade. It appears to be, but on the Audio Deluxe website it states "You must own a Pianoteq 5 Stage license to activate this upgrade", which I don't. BTW, the cost for this upgrade is $165 when you add it to the cart .

Thanks!!

Ahem... Why don't you make your upgrade directly on the original website? It's the same price! (only 5% of difference).
And when it's the same price... it's much simpler (and much more sure in case of problems) to go directly by the original website.
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The difference in price is $190 at the Pianoteq website v. $165 at Audiodeuxe - much more than a 5% difference . . . .

In any event, I have sent a message to Modartt to confirm.

[5Lives]

I still find the top end of the keyboard to sound a little "tin-y" or bell-like, especially when compared to some samples, which have more of a wood sound to them in the top range. I've had Pianoteq since version 1 - still one of my favorites for playing through.

[paterpeter]

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And now - breathe...

First, the MSRP (aka "List Price") is given by the manufacturer/supplier, not by the retailer. I've seen several cases where the List Price was higher than the price when bought from the developer's site directly. For the record: ignore the list price at audiodeluxe or any other retailer, be it on the web or in a brick-and-mortar store. The MSRP means nothing.

Second, audiodeluxe clearly states the path/conditions for each upgrade as you mention yourself. There's no "lying" involved. As far as I can see, audiodeluxe does not sell upgrades across version numbers, only editions within one verion.

Third, as was already mentioned, audiodeluxe, jrrshop etc. are not located in the EU, so I'm pretty sure the directive you refer to doesn't apply here. Those web shops need to hide the real price because of Minimum Advertised Price agreements between suppliers and vendors. No need for your paranoia here ("the only real result that after that he will receive newsletters, spams"). If you don't want to create an account, fine, go to a site where you don't have to. BTW, why not simply create a fake account if you're curious about the prices?

And finally: audiodeluxe is 100% legit, trustworthy, fast and often has great bargains. Similar sites are http://www.jrrshop.com/ and http://plugindiscounts.com/. I've dealt with all of them and never have I been disappointed.

I know you're a big fan of Modartt/Pianoteq. That's cool, so am I. But don't go crazy about it

To be more specific: to upgrade from Pianoteq 3 Play to Pianoteq 5 standard you have two options as far as I can see:
- get the "Upgrade Pianoteq Stage/Play (version 3 to 5) to Standard 5" from Modartt directly: 150€
- first, upgrade v3 to v5 via Modartt (29€), then buy the v5 Stage to v5 Standard upgrade from e.g. audiodeluxe for $164.99 (in cart), which is about 121€. Together, you're back at 150€.

There's really no difference here. Getting it from Modartt directly is probably more convenient, of course.

[Spitfire31]

And finally: audiodeluxe is 100% legit, trustworthy, fast and often has great bargains. Similar sites are http://www.jrrshop.com/ and http://plugindiscounts.com/. I've dealt with all of them and never have I been disappointed.

+1 on audiodeluxe and jrrshop. Haven't tried plugindiscounts yet…

/Joachim

[BlackWinny]

I have Pianoteq 3 Play. According to the Pianoteq website I should be able to upgrade to Standard 5 for $190 from this version. Can anyone tell me if this is the same upgrade? http://audiodeluxe.com/products/modartt ... rd-upgrade. It appears to be, but on the Audio Deluxe website it states "You must own a Pianoteq 5 Stage license to activate this upgrade", which I don't. BTW, the cost for this upgrade is $165 when you add it to the cart .

Thanks!!

Ahem... Why don't you make your upgrade directly on the original website? It's the same price! (only 5% of difference).
And when it's the same price... it's much simpler (and much more sure in case of problems) to go directly by the original website.
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The difference in price is $190 at the Pianoteq website v. $165 at Audiodeuxe - much more than a 5% difference . . . .

In any event, I have sent a message to Modartt to confirm.

Where do you read $165?
http://audiodeluxe.com/products/modartt ... rd-upgrade
I read $190!

And Modartt announces €150.

And €150 = $205!

The AD page by clicking your link:



that you can compare with the upgrade page of Modartt: