D16 Group Devastor2 on Oct 22. 2015

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Here`s the questions I have due to license model,
thanks to Szymon from support for taking the time.

Maybe I have a problem to understand the license model.
1. does it mean every 72hours the current key file becomes invalid and is going to be replaced with a new one ?

Yes. After 72 hours (in case you haven't used the acquired License Key), you are required to download another license key.

2. if I frequently change the entire OS and back it up in an OS image, I am requested to download a new key file on each new install, is this correct ?

The assumption is - no, you are not. The once activated plugin should maintain in this condition.

3. that means we have unlimited access to the ever replaced key files and are downloadable when needed ?

Yes.

4. what happens if a key file is not available (i.e. server timeout, technical issues, company discontinue etc.) ?

We are avilable here daily. Will get you out of trouble! :)

5. will this license model be applied to all new upcoming releases, which means no more permanent and restoreable licenses ?

Yes. But, mind, the License Key you activated your plugin once for the first time, can be left within your hard-dives,
as it will serve your Activation ever since the first application. This is just a safety procedure.



I am still puzzeled and not getting warm with the license model,
but will give it a try to evaluate issues in a practical context.
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The new GUI looks better without that stupid fake 3D perspective. :tu: The screenshot on the first page is Devastor V1. Here's the new V2 GUI screenshot. Beautiful. I hope all other fake 3D perspective supporters will change their minds, too. There are not many left anyway... Klanghelm... Sonimus... :roll: and just a couple of others. I'm so rejoicing seeing vectorised resizeable GUIs with no fake 3D perspective coming. Great! :hyper: Image
I hope this one sounds as good as it looks also! :) Actually I'm sure it does. Great work D16! I'm looking forward to buying whole new V2 series collection! :tu:
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The original Devastor was incredible on individual drum channels if you want to make some super aggressive drum sounds. I imagine this will be too!

Definitely need to think about trying this again.
:borg:

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You guys worried about the 72 hour time limit of the key file are obsessing over nothing. All it means is that the key file you get upon activating the product will work to activate it for 72 hours. Once it's activated... that's it. If you happen to not get your product activated within the 1st 72 hours of requesting and getting it... get another key file, that will probably also be good to activate your product for 72 hours.

Once it's activated... as long as you stay on more or less the same machine... it's always activated. It does NOT mean the product must be re-activated every 72 hours.

And it's always funny to see people wanting to know how they will then ever keep it activated forever and ever. Guess what? You're not even going to last forever and ever. So don't put so much worry on whether your plugin will.
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javahut wrote:You guys worried about the 72 hour time limit of the key file are obsessing over nothing. All it means is that the key file you get upon activating the product will work to activate it for 72 hours. Once it's activated... that's it. If you happen to not get your product activated within the 1st 72 hours of requesting and getting it... get another key file, that will probably also be good to activate your product for 72 hours.

Once it's activated... as long as you stay on more or less the same machine... it's always activated. It does NOT mean the product must be re-activated every 72 hours.

And it's always funny to see people wanting to know how they will then ever keep it activated forever and ever. Guess what? You're not even going to last forever and ever. So don't put so much worry on whether your plugin will.
Yes, we get how it works. And I don't care for their "secret" DRM adding. And I don't care that you don't care. Don't tell other people what they should find important. :roll:
I support developers that don't make me "ask permission" to use their software when I want to upgrade my PC and need to install again (or for whatever reason). And d16 isn't among them anymore.

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Well I bought one of these... Seems like it was made for assigning envelopes to the filters and going wild...

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javahut wrote:And it's always funny to see people wanting to know how they will then ever keep it activated forever and ever. Guess what? You're not even going to last forever and ever. So don't put so much worry on whether your plugin will.
It's not funny at all when you have lots of C/R DAWs / plugins and you change your OS or computer...

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javahut wrote:And it's always funny to see people wanting to know how they will then ever keep it activated forever and ever. Guess what? You're not even going to last forever and ever. So don't put so much worry on whether your plugin will.
You are aware about what happened with CamelAudio earier this year, right? My PC is good for a few years yet, but at some point I'll be upgrading its core components. What if D16 are gone when that happens?

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T-CM11 wrote: Yes, we get how it works. And I don't care for their "secret" DRM adding. And I don't care that you don't care. Don't tell other people what they should find important. :roll:
I support developers that don't make me "ask permission" to use their software when I want to upgrade my PC and need to install again (or for whatever reason). And d16 isn't among them anymore.
First, it's not a "secret". They tell you what the protection scheme is before you buy it.

If you don't support developers that don't have a software protection scheme that relies on what computer it's on, then you are missing out on a LOT of great plug-ins... and must not have many that aren't extremely small companies... which in itself would put your plugins at risk (especially on a Mac) because they could go out of business at any time.
e@rs wrote: It's not funny at all when you have lots of C/R DAWs / plugins and you change your OS or computer...
That's what's so great about iLok. No matter what computer you change to... just install the plugins, and put in the iLok... done.
mutantdog wrote:You are aware about what happened with CamelAudio earier this year, right? My PC is good for a few years yet, but at some point I'll be upgrading its core components. What if D16 are gone when that happens?
I'm aware that before they went out of business, they gave every one permanent codes to use their software on whatever computer they will work on in the future. I'm also aware that Camel Space and Camel Phat are still working great on my new computer, even though they're out of business.

I'm just saying... software is not an investment. If you see something you like and want to use right now, get it and use it. Trying to make sure everything you buy will always work is futile. It'll never happen. Life is short. Get the tools you like and use 'em while you can.
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javahut wrote:
T-CM11 wrote: Yes, we get how it works. And I don't care for their "secret" DRM adding. And I don't care that you don't care. Don't tell other people what they should find important. :roll:
I support developers that don't make me "ask permission" to use their software when I want to upgrade my PC and need to install again (or for whatever reason). And d16 isn't among them anymore.
First, it's not a "secret". They tell you what the protection scheme is before you buy it.

If you don't support developers that don't have a software protection scheme that relies on what computer it's on, then you are missing out on a LOT of great plug-ins... and must not have many that aren't extremely small companies... which in itself would put your plugins at risk (especially on a Mac) because they could go out of business at any time.
I did an upgrade and read nowhere that their copy protection had changed.
And it's my choice to miss out on what I want. Since there are so many great plugins, there's also a lot of great plugins with a (for me) acceptable copy protection scheme. If I don't agree with something, I'm not going to reward it with a purchase. I'm not a mindless zombie consumer, are you?
I don't use a Mac, and I'm not afraid of a lack of support - 50 years from now, I'll still be able to build a Windows PC or virtual machine that runs anything I've got now.

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javahut wrote:
I'm just saying... software is not an investment. If you see something you like and want to use right now, get it and use it. Trying to make sure everything you buy will always work is futile. It'll never happen. Life is short. Get the tools you like and use 'em while you can.
Yes yes resistance is futile. :borg:

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I'd advice rather to have fun with Devastor 2 than deliberate what would happen if we went out of business.

I assure you that in such case giving all the customers some solution to use our products lifetime without any support from our side would be not only obvious for us but also an easy step.

We've been working almost ten years for reputation of a company with good customer support and I can't imagine we could leave it just as it is if we had to go out of business.

Best regards,
Przemek / d16

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bld wrote: We've been working almost ten years for reputation of a company with good customer support and I can't imagine we could leave it just as it is if we had to go out of business.
A good ethic, but will it remain if Apple offers you millions. :wink:

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javahut wrote:I'm aware that before they went out of business, they gave every one permanent codes to use their software on whatever computer they will work on in the future. I'm also aware that Camel Space and Camel Phat are still working great on my new computer, even though they're out of business.
Camel stuff was protected with watermarking, which is perfect. No worries there, i can reinstall everything as much as i wish. Should something similar happen to D16 I'm sure they would offer some sort of time unlimited keyfiles to their existing customers, they seem like decent chaps. But if they don't then we are out of luck.

I know, buy it for today, nothing lasts forever, blah blah blah... I'm not even fussed about Devastor anyway. Still, this is as good a place as any to complain about an overly-restrictive copy protection method.

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mutantdog wrote: I know, buy it for today, nothing lasts forever, blah blah blah...
Of course nothing lasts forever... but it's a poor excuse. What's next? Celebrating planned obsolescence?

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