KVR Audio

penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:57 am

I don't like Satin much either (much prefer VTM, that's the best right now but I'm sure there's still room for improvement in sound). But I have only respect for Urs and his team. Don't like Zebra either but I think Diva is the best softsynth out there still now.

Mercado_Negro · Post by **Mercado_Negro** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:29 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I can hear the bass bump and the tape hiss, and even the wow and flutter on the right source material (piano)...but it always sounds like a well calibrated modern tape machine as opposed to a more colorful 60s or 70s machine. Satin can do those sounds. Hope that clarifies.

Thanks for clarifying, makes sense now and I agree. It does indeed sound like a well calibrated modern tape machine.

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:23 pm

Izak Synthiemental wrote:
wolverine6 wrote:Variety of sound's SlickHDR in combination with TesslaProMKII to add transience (at about 10%?). But the SlickHDR has some crystal clear "drive" emulation. i highly reccomend it.
I'm a huge fan of Variety of Sound plugins, but somehow SlickHDR is the only VOS plugin that never did anything for me. I have a pretty good monitoring setup, but I couldn't hear any effect on the processed sound at all.

Depending on source and settings, there is a world of difference though...

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:49 pm

do_androids_dream wrote:
Although this is kind of relevant I find it pretty creepy when a member does a stalk job on another members posts like this..

Nope, I don't think it is relevant AT ALL. I wouldn't so much call it creepy as rather outright stinky shitty and trollish...

I am far from being a big fan of 4damind and I think the criticism towards his behaviour in this thread here is valid, but i followed these links and saw nothing that would be relevant to this thread in any way.

He gave his opinion on certain synths in those threads and he is completely entitled to do this and whether he loves Zebra or not has no effing relevance WHATSOEVER to this thread here. And - not that it really matters, but for the record - I think his posts seemed to be pretty balanced and fair.

To bring these completely unrelated threads about synthesizers up in this thread about tape machine emulations is nothing else than trolling.

4damind's posts here in this thread speak for themselves and that's all there is to say about it.

bludreamsounds · Post by **bludreamsounds** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:22 pm

ToneBoosters Reelbus v2. Used VERY often to thicken drums and to coax synth sounds. I like it better than waves tape plugin plus its wayyyy more affordable.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:13 pm

nevermind

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:19 pm

Adding voices for Satin and Reelbus.

Satin is amazing for pro-things: could sound harsh, could sound slick, it has nice "coloring".
Reelbus is amazing for things on more dirven sides just check japanese decks.

But no emulators whatsoever is close to hot cassette recording on my tascam portastudio. I don't say better or worse, I say not the same. May be because tape is different/more transparent medium than casette.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:01 am

TheoM wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:
zerocrossing wrote: Dear Theo, welcome to the internet. Here, your opinions will be challenged and often dismissed. If you actually read my post, I totally agreed with your assessment of Codex. I merely suggested that you based your opinion of Serum on not digging deep enough into it... and it's crappy reverb.
Theo overreacts sometimes, so do I, so I think I can say that, I hope he doesn't mind. But, he's got a pretty serious point. It's not about challenging ideas. It's about people getting all personally offended because you don't like their favorite toys.

Getting back on topic, I only have one tape sim, it's the waves one that comes with the transistor series. I regret buying it, it was the most expensive of the three plugins. So, I'll never buy another one because I don't think that they're worth much.

Oh my favorite, well, I guess it's the waves one that comes with the transistor series. No, I don't know what it's called, that's how little use it gets.

I do and now that i have calmed down about my blowup before i really regret it. I failed and after meffy gave me so much advice how to control reacting.. for the last 2 years i have bottled it and it was just like hitting a nerve and i exploded. It's all out now so if i manage not to get banned maybe the release will be for the best. I just have to learn once and for all to simply never respond, not kindly, not nastily, simply nothing, to anyone who makes fun of me anymore. Just let it wash off like water off a ducks back.

But yeah sorry for over reacting but thank you very much for understanding my point. A lot of times at KVR people get confused between people and plugins and think if someone says a plugin is poo (or great and the reader doesn't like it), it can become personal like "wash your ears", "what are you some kind of troll", and so forth. It seems you can understand that too.

Cheers

PS don't judge tape plugins in general by kramer It's ok but there's much better. I like automating the funky delay and use it for that more than the tape effect.

No problem. I'm part to blame for sure. The use of the word "unfair" is a bit loaded. It suggests that someone is acting in a malicious way, which of course isn't the case here.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:23 am

Another vote for Satin.

nineofkings · Post by **nineofkings** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:03 am

I only own TB Ferox. It's pretty good. Noticeably dulls high high end (nothing EQ can't fix) but with all drive parameters set low and drive set high (pushing +3 and exceeding it on loudest peak(s)) it can get some really dense pushed tape sounds. Awesome for old-school hip hop mixes or vintage-inspired busses.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:56 am

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stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:50 am

Yup, Satin.

But I never compared tape emulations. And I never compared Satin to real tape. I can't even remember how tape sounded, when I recorded to tape... looooong time ago. I don't care finally. Satin sounded very good to me when I tested it, so I bought it. Another reason for Satin: U-He is just a great company, where I feel my money is wisely spent. Unlike Slate, where I get the feeling it's more about hype, although I wouldn't say their plugins don't sound good.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:55 am

stardustmedia wrote:Yup, Satin.

But I never compared tape emulations. And I never compared Satin to real tape. I can't even remember how tape sounded, when I recorded to tape... looooong time ago. I don't care finally. Satin sounded very good to me when I tested it, so I bought it. Another reason for Satin: U-He is just a great company, where I feel my money is wisely spent.

I second that notion! Although I admire devs who seek certain holy grails, I couldn't care less about whether or not a tape simulation sounds like the "real" thing. I care about how it sounds, and Satin sounds just wonderful. The color and glue it can impart to single tracks or entire mixes is impressive.

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:00 am

TheoM wrote:Hmm i can't get any usable sound out of ferox on any type of source. Would be curious to see a pic of your setting?

IMH, its extremely important how hard you hit it (them).

All jb\TB sims like to receive -18dB to -20dB full scale (as I understand them)

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:26 pm

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Best tape emulator?