MODO BASS: Get ready for a new level of realism (1.5 update available now)

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Doh, my bad, I missed the Control tab where articulations are assigned to midi keys. So in this respect it's similar to other virtual guitars/strummers. That'll work

Yes, there is also automation but the keyswitching for things like the play style (as well as forcing which string, etc) allow for some really nice and realistic capabilities.

[koolkeys]

Wow, that is a pretty steep price! The pre-order price is probably where the entire plugin SHOULD be priced for retail, honestly. I get that a lot of work has gone into it, but my goodness, it better be unbelievably awesome for that price!

I'm mildly interested since bass guitar is one of the areas where I would love to improve my library. I have some amazing bass libraries, but they take up more memory than I would like and are more convoluted than I would like. So if something like this could ease up my RAM usage, great. And I may consider it at the pre-order price. But that retail price is a little bit of a shocker when you consider the market.

Brent

[bronxsound]

after watching vids at ikm i must say that all the buzz words and hype used in previous campaigns would be applicable/justifiable to this product. well thought out, great visual and ui execution and sounds very good (at least youtube quality wise). i think ikm finally has made a step forward. congrats.

btw, what was the reason for picking bass guitar for modelling? are there any plans to model other types of instruments?

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Wow, that is a pretty steep price! The pre-order price is probably where the entire plugin SHOULD be priced for retail, honestly. I get that a lot of work has gone into it, but my goodness, it better be unbelievably awesome for that price!

I'm mildly interested since bass guitar is one of the areas where I would love to improve my library. I have some amazing bass libraries, but they take up more memory than I would like and are more convoluted than I would like. So if something like this could ease up my RAM usage, great. And I may consider it at the pre-order price. But that retail price is a little bit of a shocker when you consider the market.

Brent

We certainly considered the market and for the general market price of other libraries that are sample-based instead of MODO BASS being physical modeling you get more types/models of basses, which are more realistic physically-modeled versions with an incredible array of control - not just keyswitched articulations and such but also switching/blending different types of pickups whose location you can move around the bass body, different types of strings but also the gauge and age, and more. That's near-limitless flexibility, and with more basses to work with.

I'd say for $/€149.99 that's a steal, and well worth the MSRP even since that's competitive with other bass products that have many limitations when compared to MODO BASS

[xx JPRacer xx]

How long for the pre-order price? Will there be a special price for people that will get the other MODO instruments later? And when the others are due?

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

after watching vids at ikm i must say that all the buzz words and hype used in previous campaigns would be applicable/justifiable to this product. well thought out, great visual and ui execution and sounds very good (at least youtube quality wise). i think ikm finally has made a step forward. congrats.

btw, what was the reason for picking bass guitar for modelling? are there any plans to model other types of instruments?

Well, thank you very much! The kind words are appreciated, and personally after using MODO BASS for some time I really feel it is one of our best efforts ever. I'm not sure of why bass was the initial choice for our physical modeling, to be honest. I'll keep you posted on any other efforts in this area once there's news to share

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

How long for the pre-order price?

The news at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/news.php?id=759 states the price will go to MSRP in November 2016 upon release. I do not have a specific release date in November, though, at this time.

I seem to have missed your edits, but I have no information about any other MODO instruments at this time, nor pricing based on those.

[DarkStar]

Each stomp box has been derived from the world-class models in AmpliTube Custom Shop

Does that mean "are the same as" or are they cut-down / different / enhanced versions? And how about the amps and cabs? Are they from AmpliTube too? What gear are they based on?

I do hope that there will be some sound demos on the web page (with descriptions of the model used, settings, Stomps used etc)

Will a demo be available before the pre-order price expires? (Hmm I read into Peter's post above that the answer is probably no.)

[koolkeys]

Wow, that is a pretty steep price! The pre-order price is probably where the entire plugin SHOULD be priced for retail, honestly. I get that a lot of work has gone into it, but my goodness, it better be unbelievably awesome for that price!

I'm mildly interested since bass guitar is one of the areas where I would love to improve my library. I have some amazing bass libraries, but they take up more memory than I would like and are more convoluted than I would like. So if something like this could ease up my RAM usage, great. And I may consider it at the pre-order price. But that retail price is a little bit of a shocker when you consider the market.

Brent

We certainly considered the market and for the general market price of other sample-based libraries you get more types/models of basses, which are more realistic physically-modeled versions with an incredible array of control - not just keyswitched articulations and such but also switching/blending different types of pickups whose location you can move around the bass body, different types of strings but also the gauge and age, and more. That's near-limitless flexibility, and with more basses to work with.

I'd say for $/€149.99 that's a steal, and well worth the MSRP even since that's competitive with other bass products that have many limitations when compared to MODO BASS

Please don't get me wrong. I am not doubting the power of MODO, or even necessarily the value. The price just leaped out at me as higher than I expected. Sure, this has more models and flexibility than any library, but I guess in my mind I'm comparing to things like NI Komplete or EastWest Hollywood Orchestra in terms of "do it all" products. There is no "do it all" bass product that I know of, so I can't compare.

You have good points, and there is no doubt that if this works as it is supposed to, you may never need to buy another bass library. The price just kind of surprised me. I might have overreacted a bit, but my comparisons, as mentioned above, were more to other do-it-all plugins. It's all relative though, and technology comes with a price. I get it.

I WILL say that the pre-order price does look nice. I also have $27 in Jam Points that bring it down even further. So it is VERY tempting. So the release is sometime in November? Or will people be able to use it before then if they pre-order? Just curious. Thanks.

Brent

[Aloysius]

It's a bit like Steinberg VB1 innit?

Looks great. If it is as good as the hype, it's a real bargain imho.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Each stomp box has been derived from the world-class models in AmpliTube Custom Shop

Does that mean "are the same as" or are they cut-down / different / enhanced versions? And how about the amps and cabs? Are they from AmpliTube too? What gear are they based on?

I do hope that there will be some sound demos on the web page (with descriptions of the model used, settings, Stomps used etc)

Will a demo be available before the pre-order price expires? (Hmm I read into Peter's post above that the answer is probably no.)

The included amps and effects are taken from AmpliTube but, like the effects from T-RackS and AmpliTube in SampleTank 3 for example, they are tailored for use in this new product which is a different framework than AmpliTube. For more amps, cabs, and effects I would recommend sending the DI signal output from MODO BASS into AmpliTube (since you also do not have things like the multiple moveable microphones, etc that make AmpliTube very flexible tonally).

Here is the Amp/FX section of MODO BASS for those unfamiliar:


And a video about that functionality/section:

[pdxindy]

Looks really awesome so far and even when i´m not using much electric guitar sounds i might want this. But i wonder if it is MPE ready since such an instrument would really benefit from it.
This would be a great instrument for a Seaboard, Linnstrument etc. but without MPE it would be not so nice.
Is there (or will be) a demo? How long is the intro price valid?

I don't see that as a feature listed nor when I use MODO BASS, but I will relay your suggestion for supporting this. As bass is dominantly single note with some double stops and occasional chording work, I personally don't believe lack of MPE would make it "not so nice" as far as MODO BASS still being an extremely expressive and realistic instrument.

MPE support would certainly be useful... Bass is generally played monophonically, but that does not mean there is not some overlap across strings... in actual playing it is common to have 1 string still sounding slightly when the next is played. Mono pitch-bending including manual vibrato reveals how unnatural that sounds. You really cannot play a bass guitar without poly pitch bending. I think MPE support is mandatory. The Seaboard Rise can sound like a real guitar.

[miden]

Well tbh, I cannot see much of a difference between this and the basses (models all available btw in ST 3) in ST3. Sound is about the same (well to me anyway).

What compelling reasons would there be to replace the basses in ST3? Especially for such a price.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Well tbh, I cannot see much of a difference between this and the basses (models all available btw in ST 3) in ST3. Sound is about the same (well to me anyway).

What compelling reasons would there be to replace the basses in ST3? Especially for such a price.

MODO BASS is much more flexible than sample-based basses. There is a level of personalization, flexibility, and playability that is far more complex than with sample-based instruments. With MODO BASS you can do things like change the hand position, pickups and their position (all across the body under the strings), string type/age/gauge, and much more. This video shows a portion of these flexible features like hand position, muting level, touch, and more:


There are also videos covering the incredible amount of flexibility you have with the electronics, and other great features that give MODO BASS an insane amount of playability, you can find them on the video page: http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/mo ... bass-video

[miden]

hmmm, okay thx Peter...strong argument there haha! Might have to reconsider.