New Fabfilter teaser (Pro-R Reverb)

[masterhiggins]

After getting Valhalla I stopped looking at reverbs, but damn, Dan Worral makes me interested in this plugin.

Yeah. I had already Room and Vintage Verb, then I bought Plate and the PSP 2445 for my Plate needs
And on top I have a Bricasti and two Lexicon reverbs...

...although I love all my FF plugins and use them every day in every project, I very likely won't buy Pro-R.

Twin 3, Timeless 3 or Volcano 3 I will buy instantly. Can I preorder now?

Agreed. I like most Fabfilter products and usually have at least a piqued interested in new ones, but this is the first brand new FF plugin that's been released that's made me yawn. I think it would been improved if they had implemented modulation amongst various parameters for more unconventional sounds, like the rest of their FX plugins. Evidently that's not considered "pro."

[Robert Randolph]

After getting Valhalla I stopped looking at reverbs, but damn, Dan Worral makes me interested in this plugin.

Yeah. I had already Room and Vintage Verb, then I bought Plate and the PSP 2445 for my Plate needs
And on top I have a Bricasti and two Lexicon reverbs...

...although I love all my FF plugins and use them every day in every project, I very likely won't buy Pro-R.

Twin 3, Timeless 3 or Volcano 3 I will buy instantly. Can I preorder now?

Agreed. I like most Fabfilter products and usually have at least a piqued interested in new ones, but this is the first brand new FF plugin that's been released that's made me yawn. I think it would been improved if they had implemented modulation amongst various parameters for more unconventional sounds, like the rest of their FX plugins. Evidently that's not considered "pro."

I'm piggybacking on this. I agree totally... so far.

I'm a huge fan of Fabfilter stuff. Pro-r so far looks like it's basically a less-featureful version of any one of 10 other reverbs out.

Unless there's some hidden settings that weren't covered, or the price is unusually low, or it somehow sounds like the voice of god himself then I don't think I'm going to be too happy. Eareverb 2 looks to be a way better product with similar features and much more. (I say looks because I know what ER2 offers, but not Pro-R yet)

Though... Fabfilter fanatic and all, you know I'm buying it the second it's available.

Edit: I will say that I had similar thoughts about Pro-C 2 as well, but now I use it probably 1/3 times I grab one of my 50-odd compressor plug-ins. Damnit.

[dayjob]

it looks pretty great. i like the UI.. i like that it's basically a frequency dependent reverb.

if someone's gonna make a new reverb it has to do something like that. I have a few reverbs and they all get used. will download the demo when it comes out and price dependent will buy if it's all good under the hood etc.

[Orbit-50]

but this is the first brand new FF plugin that's been released that's made me yawn.

Me too. And I'm not a yawner. Ever. The world does not need another reverb plugin.

[e@rs]

F*** the world! I only have 2 reverbs. I desperately need my 3rd.

[xamido]

This is a must buy for me. I don't have much reverb right now, only Vintage Verb. I like how the workflow is the priority here, allowing me to focus on the sound instead of the multiple parameter.

[kocio21]

Me too. And I'm not a yawner. Ever. The world does not need another reverb plugin.

I somewhat disagree. Yes, there is crapload of reverbs out there but it's not the point. I imagine, every company making plugin bundles like Fabfilter wants to have full suite, so potential person can only buy one plugin bundle and be good to go.

Right now, say someone wants to start. So he can grab Fabfilter bundle... but there is no reverb, so that he have to look somewhere else. And maybe he will find it in another company's bundle and buy it instead Fabfilter's? That is probably why when Slate introduced their subscribe model, they came up with reverb and delay, because that were missing links.

With added reverb, Fabfilter's bundle is complete. There is plugin for every single thing you will need in your music production, aside some very specific needs.

And the plugin itself looks incredibly good.

[bmanic]

There's also the point that not a single reverb sounds the same. FabFilter especially went out of their way not to emulate anything. It is a unique algorithm, completely their own design. Thus, it will not sound like any other reverb out there.

Reverb is one of these audio effects where the character really does matter. Just like compressors. Some are utilitarian and are there to do a specific task like placing elements within a mix. Others are more flavorful and there to enhance/exaggerate or just sound weird/awesome.

Pro-R is probably going to be a bit of a chameleon in that it can do sort of both tasks.. but I'd say it's primary use would be to help place things within a mix and to create a natural space around it. We'll see how it ends up being used.

[Robmobius]

Generally, I'd be pretty 'meh' at yet another reverb plugin... But anything from FF you can't go wrong with, so it's an insta-buy from me.

[suthnear]

Some of the examples in the demo had the sense of placing something in an actual space rather than adding a reverb effect. Quite a few times I couldn't really hear what he was doing until he took the effect away, where suddenly the difference was obvious. I am therefore quite interested in this plugin

[audiosabre]

It's quite clear that FabFilter don't release anything that they aren't 100% confident in. You can point to many of their releases as best in class or competing with the very best.

Some of my absolute favourite verbs are the 2Caudio ones, but I rarely use them because of the CPU usage, even at low quality settings. Toraverb also sounds great when it's using 50% CPU for a single instance. If the CPU-to-awesomeness ratio is favourable with Pro-R, then it could become my go-to on those grounds alone.

[Orbit-50]

Me too. And I'm not a yawner. Ever. The world does not need another reverb plugin.

I somewhat disagree. Yes, there is crapload of reverbs out there but it's not the point. I imagine, every company making plugin bundles like Fabfilter wants to have full suite, so potential person can only buy one plugin bundle and be good to go.

Right now, say someone wants to start. So he can grab Fabfilter bundle... but there is no reverb, so that he have to look somewhere else. And maybe he will find it in another company's bundle and buy it instead Fabfilter's? That is probably why when Slate introduced their subscribe model, they came up with reverb and delay, because that were missing links.

With added reverb, Fabfilter's bundle is complete. There is plugin for every single thing you will need in your music production, aside some very specific needs.

And the plugin itself looks incredibly good.

Fair enough. Maybe it's just me.

[stardustmedia]

Toraverb also sounds great when it's using 50% CPU for a single instance. If the CPU-to-awesomeness ratio is favourable with Pro-R, then it could become my go-to on those grounds alone.

50% for one Toraverb instance? Sounds like your computer is on the verge

I can run a lot of Toraverbs at once. There is no real CPU-hit. Somehow I think Pro-R won't be ligher on the CPU than Toraverb.

[Orbit-50]

There's also the point that not a single reverb sounds the same. FabFilter especially went out of their way not to emulate anything. It is a unique algorithm, completely their own design. Thus, it will not sound like any other reverb out there.

Reverb is one of these audio effects where the character really does matter. Just like compressors. Some are utilitarian and are there to do a specific task like placing elements within a mix. Others are more flavorful and there to enhance/exaggerate or just sound weird/awesome.

Pro-R is probably going to be a bit of a chameleon in that it can do sort of both tasks.. but I'd say it's primary use would be to help place things within a mix and to create a natural space around it. We'll see how it ends up being used.

My problem is that in the end, they are all basically the same. As you said, we'll see how it ends up being used. I strongly believe that no matter how it's spinned, a reverb is basically a reverb and there is not much more difference that can be made to it that would set it far ahead of the multitude of them that exist already. I now realize though, as kocio21 basically was pointing out, is the fact that it comes down to branding and workflow that sets it apart from the other stuff. I'll try it out when it comes out just to see.

[Tp3]

My problem is that in the end, they are all basically the same

+1

And it is becoming (became ?) frighteningly true about most processors.
I'll bet my car 90% (I'm being gentle here, yes ?...) won't be able to tell apart EQs, Comps, HW, SW, whateverware - WHEN JUDGED AT THE SAME VOLUME. we always backward rationalize (trying to give rational to our perception).

Even if they will be able to be noticeably different, the sheer headache of actually deciding which one is better - would lead a lot of people to choose tools for reasons that are WAY outside the realm of the audio.

Pro-R is probably going to be a bit of a chameleon in that it can do sort of both tasks..

IMHO, "chameleon" tools are just a name for tools that can do (almost) everything (or an awful lot) but you end up doing nothing (with them), because you get severe FOMO.