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MountainKing · Post by **MountainKing** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:18 pm

What if I had an unused license of Halion 4? Would that bring me directly to version 6 (after registering)?

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:25 pm

MountainKing wrote:What if I had an unused license of Halion 4? Would that bring me directly to version 6 (after registering)?

If your license was never activated (EG, if you still have the code to download the license into your eLicenser) I'd say yes, it will. The moment you will write the code in eLCC, you will get a message saying that the license for HALion 4 was replaced by a license to HALion 6 (after 3 of February), or by a license of HALion 5 (as of now), and will lead you to the proper page to download the latest version (ate least, that's how it worked a few weeks ago with Cubase 9).

But how is that possiblE? Who, in possession of his full mental abilities, would have a license for HALion 4 (not even 5) unused? Really strange...

quantum7 · Post by **quantum7** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:56 pm

Is the included H6 lib the same as HS3? If you get H6, would it be redundant to get HS3 then?

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:43 pm

quantum7 wrote:Is the included H6 lib the same as HS3? If you get H6, would it be redundant to get HS3 then?

not necessarily. Think of HS3 as the "player" app. And now that H6 can create and register your own libraries, there are many reasons to just use HS3 for playback engine scenarios.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:47 pm

quantum7 wrote:Is the included H6 lib the same as HS3? If you get H6, would it be redundant to get HS3 then?

For HALion 5 and HS 2, the library isn't exactly the same (almost, but NOT the same). I think we'll have to wait for February to know what is coming on in HALion 6 and HS 3. But the editing possibilities in HALion seem to have been greatly expanded.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:22 pm

This looks great, only thing that I don't get is they have Padshop as a separate instrument, but which is clearly based on the Halion 'engine' so why don't they integrate the 2 instead of making a different granular synth inside Halion that I assume is not compatible with it? Also there is already Auron, does this replace that too?

TabSel · Post by **TabSel** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:29 pm

Why does NI sell Razor, Prism, Spark, Monark etc. as separate products when they could be build using Reaktor?

They can, and they sell well I guess.

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:30 pm

wagtunes wrote:If I can somehow get HALion 5 used (I assume they'll have to transfer the license if even possible) will I then be able to upgrade to HALion 6 free under the grace period (as it's new to me) or because it's an old license, the free upgrade doesn't apply?

I bought a used H5 license on an eLicenser just days before the announcement (it only has arrived today). the import of the elicenser went all fine, and apart from the fact that I can't download it from steinberg for reasons I (still) don't know I seem to have a fully legit license now. but there is a register date for every license on that dongle (addons included), and I would assume that any date before end of december 2016 does not qualify for a free upgrade. from what I know it doesn't matter when the license was bought. the license activation time stamp is all that counts. currently I think about not putting to much energy in getting H5 for download but upgrade to H6 instantly and download this instead (well, if it pops up at mySteinberg, that is

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fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:39 pm

TabSel wrote:Why does NI sell Razor, Prism, Spark, Monark etc. as separate products when they could be build using Reaktor?

They can, and they sell well I guess.

It's not the same thing. Razor, Prism, Spark, Monark etc. WERE built with Reaktor, and if you have the full Reaktor license, you can even create new instruments (ensembles) with their modules/core cells.

Padshop is a different/independent instrument, and you cannot open it inside HALion. Besides, it seems that, although the granular engine is the same, the similarities stop there.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:44 pm

Same with Retrologue, AFAIK, it's the VA engine of Halion. Having both of those as instruments included in Cubase is a good sales argument though, and also, maybe people don't need such a sophisticated instrument like Halion, and "just" want a VA synth (Retrologue) or a granular synth (Padshop). I think it is a good idea to have those separate.

erikgyle · Post by **erikgyle** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:47 pm

I felt the brass and string demos on the website sounded incredibly fake and cheesy. While the scripting features may have gone a long way toward feature parity with Kontakt, the inferior sound library coupled with non-existant industry support condemns Halion to remaining a "me too" product for at least another release cycle.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:48 pm

Just installed Padshop Pro and Hypnotic Dance on a new computer.

Padshop Pro doesn't install HALion Sonic SE, but Hypnotic Dance does.

I wonder if Padshop Pro is only available as VST3 now ?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:50 pm

Halion Sonic is tied to Halion, not PSP.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:52 pm

The installation is a bit weird. Padshop and Retrologue won't let you choose installation folders, and the VST2 gets installed in some odd location, C://ProgramFiles/Vstplugins or so it was for me, so, if you don't have those folders set up in your DAW, it obviously won't find the VST2. It IS there though.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:57 pm

chk071 wrote:The installation is a bit weird. Padshop and Retrologue won't let you choose installation folders, and the VST2 gets installed in some odd location, C://ProgramFiles/Vstplugins or so it was for me, so, if you don't have those folders set up in your DAW, it obviously won't find the VST2. It IS there though.

After installation, you can put the DLLs wherever you want.

Steinberg HALion 6 & HALion Sonic 3