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jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:31 am

the song Lennon said could never be performed live

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:56 am

dellboy wrote:
Hey, guess what ?

If you were there at the time,you would have said the same thing back then.

Not everyone loved the Beatles at the time.

In fact,many thought they were naff back then.

Of course they were wrong then as well.

So if you were a teenager back then what would have been your genre ?

whatever it was,I guess it would have been a bit weird.

Milli Vanilli. The original innovators.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:09 am

Aloysius wrote:

Milli Vanilli. The original innovators.

Cool band.

I especially loved their album....

"Milli Vanilli lipsync the Beatles Geatest Hits"

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:15 am

dellboy wrote:
Aloysius wrote:Beatles fans are a bit weird.
Hey, guess what ?

If you were there at the time,you would have said the same thing back then.

Not everyone loved the Beatles at the time.

I don't think it's quite about that though. Teenage fans, of whoever, are a different thing. They're just teenagers.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:44 am

ghettosynth wrote:
I don't think it's quite about that though. Teenage fans, of whoever, are a different thing. They're just teenagers.

Every grownup will point back to the music of their teenage years as being the best ever made.

All fans of "The Smiths" were teenagers in the 80s.

All fans of "Oasis" were teenagers in the 90s.

It just so happens that my teenage years were when the Beatles bought out Seargent Peppers, Abbey Road, The White Album, Let It Be.........

........hang on though,those were the best Albums ever.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:52 am

dellboy wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:
I don't think it's quite about that though. Teenage fans, of whoever, are a different thing. They're just teenagers.
Every grownup will point back to the music of their teenage years as being the best ever made.

Be careful with universal statements like that. I don't do any such thing. I have an affinity for music that appeared at different times of my life, but, as a rational adult I recognize that good music and bad music is always being made.

In fact, I consider much of the music of my teenage years to be eye-rollingly bad.

Now, if you were to say that a lot of adults are largely irrational and harbor beliefs about their particular tastes that aren't supported by evidence, well, then I'd agree.

That wasn't my point though. I wasn't saying anything about teenage tastes. I was talking about the weirdness of Beatles fans which seems to transcend generations. I've had a few friends like that, the word tiresome comes to mind.

Andywanders · Post by **Andywanders** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:11 am

Bombadil wrote:Count me weird. In fact, by that criterion, I am certifiable. Best band ever. Even their contemporaries and many next generation groups cite them as a major influence. They were a one off, a perfect storm, that occasionally makes me believe in God.

All You Need is Love.

I still believe that.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:05 am

ghettosynth wrote:

Be careful with universal statements like that.

I was talking about the weirdness of Beatles fans which seems to transcend generations. I've had a few friends like that, the word tiresome comes to mind.

Errr...

I think you have just contradicted your rule about universal statements.

I will give you another rule.

"The exception [that] proves the rule"

I am a Beatles fan,not just because they were great,but 55 years later people are still debating if they really were great. But I have liked, and continue to like new music as it comes along.

If you have friends that suffer from teenage arrested development, and will counter no other music than the Beatles,or for that matter, none other than their chosen genre,then I agree,they are weird.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:17 am

ghettosynth wrote: I was talking about the weirdness of Beatles fans which seems to transcend generations. I've had a few friends like that, the word tiresome comes to mind.

I have not read this thread,but if your friends have pointed out how the Beatles evolved in less than ten years,then they are not weird, but right.

"Love Me Do" came out in 1962. By the time the Bealtes spilt, their compositions were unrecognisable from their roots in the Merseyside sound. Yet all their contemparies remained pretty much static,or just plain died away.
It is the variety within their music that has rarely been equaled since. Most bands have a "sound" and their music revolves around that,but the Beatles made huge effort to sound fresh with each new album.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:24 am

ghettosynth wrote:

In fact, I consider much of the music of my teenage years to be eye-rollingly bad.

Give us the decade to analyse and deconstruct.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:33 pm

ghettosynth wrote:
dellboy wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:
I don't think it's quite about that though. Teenage fans, of whoever, are a different thing. They're just teenagers.
Every grownup will point back to the music of their teenage years as being the best ever made.
Be careful with universal statements like that. I don't do any such thing. I have an affinity for music that appeared at different times of my life, but, as a rational adult I recognize that good music and bad music is always being made.

In fact, I consider much of the music of my teenage years to be eye-rollingly bad.

Yeah I'm the same - it's not so much a rule as an assumption.

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:52 pm

dellboy wrote:
Every grownup will point back to the music of their teenage years as being the best ever made.

I don't find that true at all of the folks I know. It tends to be true of people who are not really enthusiasts of music itself - more like music from certain time periods triggers great feelings that stretch wider than the music itself perhaps.

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:55 pm

Aloysius wrote:Beatles fans are a bit weird.

I remember sitting in a pub and a friend of mine, with a big grin on his face, said 'The Beatles are the ultimate aren't they. Well aren't they?!!!'

*awkward silence*

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:47 pm

do_androids_dream wrote:. It tends to be true of people who are not really enthusiasts of music itself - more like music from certain time periods triggers great feelings that stretch wider than the music itself perhaps.

Whatever spin you put on it people often become fixated on the music of their youth. But it goes without saying that anyone on KVR Forums takes music more seriously than the average person. I have a wide eclectic range in musical taste,but many on here seem to be "EDM" music only. How many of those got into "EDM" as a teenager I do not know,but if they did it would of course support my general rule.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:54 pm

do_androids_dream wrote:
Aloysius wrote:Beatles fans are a bit weird.
I remember sitting in a pub and a friend of mine, with a big grin on his face, said 'The Beatles are the ultimate aren't they. Well aren't they?!!!'

*awkward silence*

It would have been better if your friend had defined what ultimate meant for him. They were never the ultimate Rock Band,nor Folk,nor Country, nor Heavy Metal,nor Blues,nor etc,etc,etc.

But the ultimate "Pop Band" ,well yeah,unless you would like to parry a better alternative.

What's Not To Like About The Beatles?