Another DnB Track, looking for feedback :)

[Jopmanajop]

I LOVE that hard sync hook.

+1

[Robmobius]

Yes, they're great, also Ask.Video. But i really love Sonic Academy's Vince Watson Tutorials, he literally doesn't do mixing, just a couple of resonance cuts, basic filtering, a little compression, but in the end it just sounds great, because music (right sounds, melody and arrangement) comes first. That was truly inspiring

I've not seen any of his tutes to be honest. But it's interesting because I watched quite a few vids by highly regarded pros and that's what I saw too.

A lot of it is about cutting frequencies that you don't need (or that could clog up a mix). And the frequencies that you do boost are minimal - more just to add a little presence or a bit of sparkle, etc.

I've not checked out ask.audio for ages I must have a look.

[jethrobull]

Yeah, pretty cool track! It certainly has that Hospital vibe . I'm a huge DnB fan, done the rounds of Djing back in the day Good stuff

[Jopmanajop]

I've not seen any of his tutes to be honest. But it's interesting because I watched quite a few vids by highly regarded pros and that's what I saw too.

A lot of it is about cutting frequencies that you don't need (or that could clog up a mix). And the frequencies that you do boost are minimal - more just to add a little presence or a bit of sparkle, etc.

I've not checked out ask.audio for ages I must have a look.

Indeed it is mostly about subtleties that add up in the end, how not to overdo and do less (which is more). Simple, but these tutorials are so much inspiring, like they're resetting your musical brain, erasing all the garbage. Great stuff!

[Zeekuh]

You got pretty solid track here but the mixing is still very wrong. (the first version was awful, this one is much improved but still needs work).
For starters, just boosting highest frequencies makes that track breathe (just tried it).
Too much mud, I think too many things fighting with each other in the audio spectrum here.
Basically - I cannot really hear any bass and highs - its all mud.
You've got good drum samples, but you need to bring them forward. Kick and snare need to 'bite' and drive the track and they sound 'behind' the mix now.
Hihats are too muddy - try to eq them quite a bit.
I LOVE that hard sync hook.
Sorry if I sound too harsh - dont get me wrong - its a good track, definitely worth polishing sonically.

I was comparing reference track as mp3, didnt realise it was cut at 16 khz, thought it was some standard Will take your feedback to heart when i get back to mixing
Dont worry about harshness, all constructive critique is always welcomed by me, and compared to the first replies i got your not that harsh

[Zeekuh]

A couple of days of rest made a real difference, watching videos it quite quickly became clear what the big problem was - i was overequing. Instead of lowering 5 db or so i was using bandstops and cutting way to much eq of the instruments which gave a hollow sound, which made it hard for me to compare to reference tracks since they sounded so much better in comparission.
I dont know who or what gave me the idea, perhaps it was some self drawn conclusion to do so with eqing, but im glad i've changed my mind.

Also when looking at master track on tonal balance control it was in line without adjusting eq with reference track, except for very high end but i aint sure if that's mp3 cut or not, either way i lowered eq there a bit, it it's to low, let me know.

- Did careful eqing about 5-7 db cuts to give space for bass, chords, vocals. Focused vocals around 300 hz. Also cut out some db for high end percussion.
- Kept drum buss 3 db louder than rest of busses so that it would give more punch to the mix.
- Added delay on crashes as suggested earlier in thread

https://soundcloud.com/zeekuh/out-of-it-8/s-1oV9E

Might be a bit muddy, if so please tell me, i will be doing very small and subtle changes from now on.

[3qO]

Sounds dope

[Jopmanajop]

Oh my, that's just wow! Full, open, dynamic, everything's tight, now this is really inspiring, from the first version to this perfection in a couple of days! Dude, this is success, i'm jealous actually as i am overdoer myself. Great example of determination and focus

[sjm]

I'm listening on cheap earbuds at work, so some caution is necessary, but it sounds like you've cleaned up the most obvious issues that jumped out to me on the last listen. It sounds a lot smoother now. Glad to hear that you think the idea of getting some distance was a worthwhile one. Sometimes you can't see the wood for trees when you've been totally caught up in a project.

Hopefully the next project you make will be a lot easier, because you'll avoid the mistake of overdoing things and that will make your life *so much* easier.

At some point I'll listen again on decent speakers, but I reckon that you've probably gone as far as you need to right now. Make another 5 or so tracks and then listen again. You might notice some things you still want to change (or might not). But I think you've probably reached the point of diminishing returns now. What I think will help you most is applying the experience you gained from this track to a number of other tracks. You'll be faced with different issues that you will need to solve. What you've learned from this track will really help you there; and what you learn from the next couple of tracks might also help you if you choose to revisit this track sometime in the future. And if you do revisit this track, chances are it will be because you've identified a specific issue you want to address; and you'll know *how* to address it now. So it'll probably not take very long to do

Well done, and I salute your dedication!

[Jopmanajop]

At some point I'll listen again on decent speakers, but I reckon that you've probably gone as far as you need to right now. Make another 5 or so tracks and then listen again. You might notice some things you still want to change (or might not). But I think you've probably reached the point of diminishing returns now. What I think will help you most is applying the experience you gained from this track to a number of other tracks. You'll be faced with different issues that you will need to solve. What you've learned from this track will really help you there; and what you learn from the next couple of tracks might also help you if you choose to revisit this track sometime in the future. And if you do revisit this track, chances are it will be because you've identified a specific issue you want to address; and you'll know *how* to address it now

So agree