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Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:05 am

hmmm...i dont think you jokers know wha-ya-talkin' bout

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:52 pm

vurt wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:15 pm
e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:14 pm The Minimoog didn't even have a patch memory, right? Gee, I can't even imagine using such a device...
it did if you purchased the seperate "polaroid module"

somebody once erpon a time published a picture of the panel somewhere, and the way you recalled a patch was on a xerox of that picture filling in the details. I didn't have a camera, never did except a Kodak Super 8 movie camera I bought with green stamps.
Pretty ANALOG

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:42 pm

Q: Have Modern VST Instruments Replaced Your Hardware Synths ?
A: Yes and no

I was 100% ITB from 1990 - 2018 (I wasn't making music that whole time - long breaks). Didn't even have a MIDI controller until the early 2000s. Then, wanting inspiration and something different than available in software, I bought a desktop module hardware analog monosynth for which no emulation exists. A year later I wanted a desktop module analog poly. And got one, for which no emulation exists. Last month I picked up an Expert Sleepers USAMO to tightly sync the tempo of the 2 with my DAW (the mono is hooked to the poly via Thru). In part, because I clearly want to them to behave as VST-like as possible... I can always use the editors, but that takes away the fun and inspiration.

Hardest part is I'm still trying to adapt a workflow. But I'll get there.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:26 pm

vitocorleone123 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:42 pm Q: Have Modern VST Instruments Replaced Your Hardware Synths ?
A: Yes and no

I was 100% ITB from 1990 - 2018 (I wasn't making music that whole time - long breaks).

How can you be 100% in the box in the early 90's ???
You could only run midi sequencers back then

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:28 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:51 pm
chk071 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:43 pm
vurt wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:34 pm
chk071 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:31 pm , no total recall.
youve never even been to mars!

They recently re-released that movie here. I think it was even on the index for some time here.
Funny to read that, having just been listening to the rather awesome 'Total Recall' score. It's among the many favourite sci-fi film's I have that I only just yesterday added to the full length filmscore section of the site I'm building here.

I knew sooner or later you were gonna post a link to your site , since kvr audio is the only forum where you can lay out the bait .
Maybe you should buy some add. time on facebook

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:00 pm

its a site about everything! its the new wikipedia.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:02 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:26 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:42 pm Q: Have Modern VST Instruments Replaced Your Hardware Synths ?
A: Yes and no

I was 100% ITB from 1990 - 2018 (I wasn't making music that whole time - long breaks).
How can you be 100% in the box in the early 90's ???
You could only run midi sequencers back then

he did say not always musuc. maybe gaming through the 90s?

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:04 pm

Kinh wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:05 am jokers

some people call me maurice.

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:06 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:26 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:42 pm Q: Have Modern VST Instruments Replaced Your Hardware Synths ?
A: Yes and no

I was 100% ITB from 1990 - 2018 (I wasn't making music that whole time - long breaks).
How can you be 100% in the box in the early 90's ???
You could only run midi sequencers back then

presumably either chip tunes or Amiga (or PC) + tracker

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:51 am

Trackers ,
How could I have forgotten

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:52 am

Also some of the Sound Blaster cards let you load soundfonts and sequence them via MIDI. I did that for a short while, and made a couple of bits for a game soundtrack.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:00 am

vurt wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:00 pm its a site about everything! its the new wikipedia.

More of a dark labyrinth of focused content and hidden caverns (tabs) incorporating a redesign of youtube...

..atm.

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:34 am

vurt wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:04 pm
Kinh wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:05 am jokers
some people call me maurice.

*wolf whistle*

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:46 am

gentleclockdivider wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:26 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:42 pm Q: Have Modern VST Instruments Replaced Your Hardware Synths ?
A: Yes and no

I was 100% ITB from 1990 - 2018 (I wasn't making music that whole time - long breaks).
How can you be 100% in the box in the early 90's ???
You could only run midi sequencers back then

Ha! Could do way more than that. Whole songs, no problem.

ScreamTracker 3 and then FastTracker 2

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:29 am

THE INTRANCER wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:35 amNow if I was in a cave with music and computer hardware...I would wonder just how long it would take before the sea air would take effect and turn the PCB into a chocolate orange, a few days..a week.. humm I'm not sure...

Having been living on my yacht for more than 9 years now, I can tell you that it probably wouldn't affect the life of any of your electronics. I expected to have problems but nothing has died on me in all that time. Probably the oldest device I have is my ZuneHD - it's never missed a beat and even the cable it came with, which just sits on my nav table, is still going great. My Sony Bravia has been mounted on the bulkhead in the salon for more than 5 years and it's still good, too.

excuse me please wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:55 amExpression. I now have created good sounds and they work well together. But I'm not using a keyboard. There are plugins for expression, I'm going to try those first. If I can't get close enough then I look for hw.

If you want expression, just use a controller. No hardware synth is going to come close to doing what a Roli Seaboard or Linnstrument can do.

HanafiH wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:11 amI could have bought a car with what I’ve just spent on Eurorackery. It’s such fun. It’s so intense and it’s nearly unique.

I doubt it's anywhere near as intense or half as much fun as my car. You spent your money on the wrong thing.

The flagship wavetable engine I took delivery of yesterday has a serial number 1,736. That’s how many other people out there can make same sound. How many hundreds of thousands of Xfer Serums are there? How many million Omnispheres (when you count the unofficial ones)?

Who cares? Those things are just tools and no-one else can do what I do with the same tools.

In a world of instantly reproducible software instruments hardware is unique.

No it isn't. You said yourself - 1,736. My yacht is no. 168 of only 240 ever made (which is actually a pretty decent run for a yacht). It's an order of magnitude more unique than your wavetable engine. I use Monoment Bass a fair bit, do you think they've sold 1,736 licenses for that? I'd be very surprised and even if they did, I bet hardly anyone is actually using it so my software set-up is probably more unique than your hardware.

WasteLand wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:59 ambeautiful number of simple minds (play the cd's of the earlier simple minds, regurlaly).

That's not "early" Simple Minds, I'd call the end of their mid-period sound. This is early Simple Minds -

chk071 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:34 amEven though Dune sounds absolutely nothing like a Virus. And vice versa, of course (disclaimer for the ones I stepped on their shoes again).

So a Virus can't do synstrings or basslines? They are both synths, they both sound great and the areas of overlap would dwarf any ways in which they sound different.

I really wonder how many people ever said that their Minimoog replaced their Oberheim OB-X.

Given that Minimoog predates the OB-X by 9 years, I'd say nobody, But if it's the other way around, I'd suggest that pretty much anyone who had bought a Minimoog new would have jumped at the opportunity to replace an aging monosynth with an 8 voice polyphonic synth with an extra octave-and-a-half of keys.

Dencheg wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:56 pmThere is a reason. The control surface of Roland System-8 is simply the best (for many). And the synth itself is the best (at least for me), despite being VA. Well, I shouldn’t say “despite”, cause good VA in good hands (relying not only on presets) sounds not less uniquely then A or a unique wavetable engine

Hard to imagine, given that it's a Roland. Horrible sounding things.

zerocrossing wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:11 amI still think I could probably remain 100% ITB if processor speeds pick up to the point where I can really run the stuff I want without issues, but I find that without some hardware synths and effects, I run out of processor speed.

What the hell are you doing? I can use several instances of bx-oberhausen and an ARP Osyssey or two my CPU never goes over about 50%.

Also, I think that hardware analogs do have a bit of magic that puts them ahead of the VA for some things.

Well, you're wrong.

Tj Shredder wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:28 amIn software its easier to sound different.

Is that important? I just want to sound good.

anomandaris1 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:28 am From what I have seen in the local shop, even some of the best (and most expensive) modern midi keyboard controllers are complete garbage compared to decent digital pianos and workstations.

Then you need to look in different shops. A lot of the actual keyboards are made by Fatar and it won't matter if it's in a hardware synth or a MIDI controller, you'll get the same experience. I'd also suggest that the keyboard in my KeyStep is just about the best keyboard I've ever used. The aftertouch is so much more nuanced and subtle than any of my hardware synths, which are basically on/off switches. Of course, a cheap controller is going to be made cheaply but if you spend decent money, you'll get something as good as any hardware keyboard.