iZotope Neoverb: new reverb by Exponential Audio/iZotope
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Prototype_human Prototype_human https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=555374
- Banned
- 83 posts since 7 Mar, 2022
Neoverb....not so good,valhalla are imo the best reverb available at this time
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- KVRAF
- 1655 posts since 3 Mar, 2009 from Colorado Springs
EOS 2 sounds just, a lot better to me than this, and that's older than the same guy's work on his Valhalla plugins. I feel like it's destined for the $9.99 pile before long. Actually I do like R4 and Nimbus which I got off that same pile, not for showy sound effect verbs but for more subtle "it fits together" stuff.
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- KVRAF
- 2270 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Well, I like it, but it's nice there are enough options to please us all.Agreed wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:28 pm EOS 2 sounds just, a lot better to me than this, and that's older than the same guy's work on his Valhalla plugins. I feel like it's destined for the $9.99 pile before long. Actually I do like R4 and Nimbus which I got off that same pile, not for showy sound effect verbs but for more subtle "it fits together" stuff.
A pretty cool use I have for it is this: put it on a send from a semi-master track. Then set its EQ to not include the bass. Adjust reverb length and volume to taste, and send to the master track, alongside the semi-master. This way, the sound can get as enormous as one would like, without getting too muddy.
I know DM blasted People are People in the studio, and then recorded the reverb in other rooms of the building (stairways, possibly). Finally, they used some of that reverb and mixed it back with the master track. I tried to emulate that, without getting evicted from my home.
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
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- KVRAF
- 3417 posts since 26 Mar, 2002 from london
I've been playing with this a bit more. The smoothing feature confused me for a while, but perhaps it's an established technique on a bus to reduce transients prior to the reverb, particularly for drums/percussive sounds? I did some experimentation and the effects are subtle but noticeable on early reflections, in e.g. preventing the high frequencies of the kick drum from creating stark reflections. With the other modules one can simply use the attack setting to soften transients, so it's not really a worthwhile feature there.
Does anyone have any thoughts about the worthiness of blending the second and third modules, e.g. plate and hall, or room and hall etc.? Seems like an odd workflow method, and instinctively I turn off one of those modules and just blend one of them with early reflections. But perhaps there's something smart in how they're processed that prevents swamping/saturating the soundstage when blending.
The manual says modulation depth goes up to 125% to make the effects more audible, but it would appear for me this isn't the case, it stops at 100%.
Does anyone have any thoughts about the worthiness of blending the second and third modules, e.g. plate and hall, or room and hall etc.? Seems like an odd workflow method, and instinctively I turn off one of those modules and just blend one of them with early reflections. But perhaps there's something smart in how they're processed that prevents swamping/saturating the soundstage when blending.
The manual says modulation depth goes up to 125% to make the effects more audible, but it would appear for me this isn't the case, it stops at 100%.
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simon.a.billington simon.a.billington https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=341278
- KVRAF
- 2604 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
The smoothing effect more targets frequency build up, resonances in certain areas which you would naturally get in any acoustic space and often in reverbs. So the Smooth feature allows you to tame them so they don't sound too ugly and make a mess of things.
So you should end up with a reverb that sounds more clean, open and possibly lush. Given that, not everything needs to be clean and open, which is why they give us a control for it. At least, I'm fairly certain how that works.
The other modules can be handy for creative effects. For example, you can use a smaller room reverb on the vocals in the verse, then blend crossfade it to more of a hall for the chorus. Or maybe you want to automate it for creative reverb throws as opposed to eq throws.
So you should end up with a reverb that sounds more clean, open and possibly lush. Given that, not everything needs to be clean and open, which is why they give us a control for it. At least, I'm fairly certain how that works.
The other modules can be handy for creative effects. For example, you can use a smaller room reverb on the vocals in the verse, then blend crossfade it to more of a hall for the chorus. Or maybe you want to automate it for creative reverb throws as opposed to eq throws.
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- KVRAF
- 3417 posts since 26 Mar, 2002 from london
It's the pre-EQ that has the auto-resonance taming, the smooth function according to the manual (and can be heard in practice) is a transient taming module. I'd assumed it was a control for the smoothing of the modulation effect (since it's next to that in the GUI) and couldn't hear it do anything, so I checked the manual.simon.a.billington wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:52 am The smoothing effect more targets frequency build up, resonances in certain areas which you would naturally get in any acoustic space and often in reverbs. So the Smooth feature allows you to tame them so they don't sound too ugly and make a mess of things.
simon.a.billington wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:52 am The other modules can be handy for creative effects. For example, you can use a smaller room reverb on the vocals in the verse, then blend crossfade it to more of a hall for the chorus. Or maybe you want to automate it for creative reverb throws as opposed to eq throws.
Hadn't thought of that, that's a cool idea.
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