Audacity 3.0.0 is released!

[surreal]

Cool!

[BertKoor]

I went straight to Amazon, bought Sound Forge Audio Studio for my PC Laptop and never looked back.

A bit of an overreaction imho. There are plenty other decent free audio editors for Mac, like OcenAudio.

[Trensharo]

I went straight to Amazon, bought Sound Forge Audio Studio for my PC Laptop and never looked back.

A bit of an overreaction imho. There are plenty other decent free audio editors for Mac, like OcenAudio.

I moved up to Sound Forge Pro, so not really. I also got Samplitude Pro X (on sale), which is about 90% of the way to WaveLab Pro for audio editing, so I'm set. Windows doesn't break your software year over year like macOS, so I don't really need to upgrade them anytime soon.

Personally, I prefer to pay for software. Better design, better support, and no need to depend on "communities." For that stuff.

Coming from a software development background, I am over that sh*t, because I've had to deal with those types of people too much, already. FOSS attracts a certain community of user types that I don't prefer to interact with, anymore.

Just give me a support contact form and let me get on with my life.

When I used Linux (for work,development stuff) I actually subscribed to RHEL WS to avoid having to I terrace with these people, and those project developers. I just paid for Red Hat's product and support. It was way more expensive than Windows, but worth avoiding the decrease in quality of life anytime something went wrong and I needed support.

[fese]

Personally, I prefer to pay for software. Better design

*cough* like Reaper??

, better support,

*cough* like Steinberg??

Ah, well, there's exceptions to every rule Personally, I just differentiate between good and bad software, I don't give a shit whether it's open source or not...

When I used Linux (for work,development stuff) I actually subscribed to RHEL WS to avoid having to I terrace with these people, and those project developers. I just paid for Red Hat's product and support. It was way more expensive than Windows, but worth avoiding the decrease in quality of life anytime something went wrong and I needed support.

Redhat's support is usually really good. Yeah, their subscriptions are more expensive than a Windows License, but then you don't really get any support for Windows unless you pay extra (or did you mean Redhat being more expensive than a Windows License including ongoing support?)

[olepro]

We get it, Audacity doesn't have the faux wood, so it's bad

fauxwood.png

How much is the price with real wood

[syntonica]

I'll just come out and say it. Audacity is fugly to the bone. It's like a Frankenstein's monster with bits and pieces bolted on higglety-pigglety by mad open-source scientists. Try running a batch to do a bit of automatic trimming and converting of samples. It's maddening! And, after manual diving, experimentation and multiple test runs, it did not work for my needs in the end.

Unfortunately, the world has moved on from sample processing to the all-important task of mp3 conversion and the even more important mp3 tagging! Don't get me started on the snowflake needs of budding podcasters... These tools are no longer made for serious musicians.

Back to Audacity, they need to do a massive code cleanup, redesign the GUI a bit and reorganize the architecture so everything can be run by the batch processor. Leave the featuritis for v3.5 or v4.0.

/rant over

[chk071]

Back to Audacity, they need to do a massive code cleanup, redesign the GUI a bit and reorganize the architecture so everything can be run by the batch processor. Leave the featuritis for v3.5 or v4.0.

See you in 20 years then?

[syntonica]

Back to Audacity, they need to do a massive code cleanup, redesign the GUI a bit and reorganize the architecture so everything can be run by the batch processor. Leave the featuritis for v3.5 or v4.0.

See you in 20 years then?

Yeah, I might get around to downloading their codebase in that time.

One thing I've learned in all my years of programming since 8-bit dinosaurs roamed the Earth is that I don't edit or use other people's code. It's faster for me to just write it.

[NTO]

Try running a batch to do a bit of automatic trimming and converting of samples.
Been using Audacity for this and mp3 converter via the macro tools - satisfied.

[Trensharo]

Personally, I prefer to pay for software. Better design

*cough* like Reaper??

, better support,

*cough* like Steinberg??

Ah, well, there's exceptions to every rule Personally, I just differentiate between good and bad software, I don't give a shit whether it's open source or not...

When I used Linux (for work,development stuff) I actually subscribed to RHEL WS to avoid having to I terrace with these people, and those project developers. I just paid for Red Hat's product and support. It was way more expensive than Windows, but worth avoiding the decrease in quality of life anytime something went wrong and I needed support.

Redhat's support is usually really good. Yeah, their subscriptions are more expensive than a Windows License, but then you don't really get any support for Windows unless you pay extra (or did you mean Redhat being more expensive than a Windows License including ongoing support?)

REAPER is payware with the UI/UX design and user community of FOSS. No. Not even comparable, to me. I'm pretty sure REAPER looking like shit is one of the biggest complaints (and L2Theme is one of the biggest retorts, laughably despite the fact that 1/3rd - 1/2 of the interface is actually not themable - and really, I will always opt to buy my way out of this... I'm not a college kid code/mod monkey anymore).

My experience with Steinberg support has personally been prompt and pleasant. I have no complaints, and generally I value my experience over the anecdotes of others. Clearly, you do the same.

I have actually contacted Microsoft for support, and been supported. But Windows and macOS requires less support, generally speaking, than Linux. I'm extremely computer literate. The issues I'd have with Linux are often things that would never happen on Windows or macOS, due to differences in how the platforms are developed, packaged and distributed. I had to run Linux, for work reasons. The choice was use a free community-supported distro (i.e. Fedora, or whatever it was called at the time) or pay for RedHat or SUSE. I opted to pay, because I had already spent enough time on those forums, IRC Channels, etc. and wanted out of that B.S.

Open Source has different development priorities than pay ware. So no, it's not simply about thinking paid = better. Payware is beholden to user wants and needs. F/OSS is beholden only to what the developers find most fun at the time when they sit at their PC. It can stagnate overnight when people decide they have better priorities than working on the project. That's why Audacity still looks like a bad Windows 95 app and Adobe Audition looks ... exponentially better.

[Trensharo]

I'll just come out and say it. Audacity is fugly to the bone. It's like a Frankenstein's monster with bits and pieces bolted on higglety-pigglety by mad open-source scientists. Try running a batch to do a bit of automatic trimming and converting of samples. It's maddening! And, after manual diving, experimentation and multiple test runs, it did not work for my needs in the end.

Unfortunately, the world has moved on from sample processing to the all-important task of mp3 conversion and the even more important mp3 tagging! Don't get me started on the snowflake needs of budding podcasters... These tools are no longer made for serious musicians.

Back to Audacity, they need to do a massive code cleanup, redesign the GUI a bit and reorganize the architecture so everything can be run by the batch processor. Leave the featuritis for v3.5 or v4.0.

/rant over

Podcasters can use GarageBand (macOS), Cakewalk (Windows 10), or Studio One Prime (both) and get everything they need for free in a much better package. And it's not like Audacity is really catering to that market, anyways. It kind of became popular there because of free and the (then) lack of good options.

That being said, simple is probably best for podcasters.

I helped someone last summer set up a machine for podcasting, with Cakewalk by BandLab.

[dfraze]

Sometimes the selling point of a software it's its simplicity

I love the fact that you don't necessarily need to install Audacity, you just download it and run the software

[nachenko]

A bit of an overreaction imho. There are plenty other decent free audio editors for Mac, like OcenAudio.

THIS. I've been using Ocenaudio in my classroom for two years. Very simple, very straightforward, very easy to learn. And when my students understand the basics, we jump into Reaper. They never touch that half-editor, half-DAW, poor both ways thingy that is Audacity.