KVR Audio

PAK · Post by **PAK** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:37 am

chk071 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:23 am Your CPU needs at least 200 MIPs to run the emulator, is my estimation. I have an average of 150 MIPs in the test tool, and the Virus emu ist still pretty much unusable.

That's assuming your issues are purely about the MIPS. It's likely there's more going on right now, in terms of bugs..

That figure should also be for the Virus running at worst case "full load" IE 16 parts, 24 note polyphony. It might be an idea for them to add a polyphony limiter to the interface too.. This way you could get a usable 12 note Virus B and (in theory, if they can implement dynamic CPU loads) generate half the CPU load required. That or a Virus A rom (it was only 12 notes, but lacked a number of the B's features)

All that said, some presets eat more DSP than others, and it's not difficult to hit the 24 note limit if you use features like unison, alongside the arp, on polyphonic sounds.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:49 am

PAK wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:37 am
chk071 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:23 am Your CPU needs at least 200 MIPs to run the emulator, is my estimation. I have an average of 150 MIPs in the test tool, and the Virus emu ist still pretty much unusable.
That's assuming your issues are purely about the MIPS. It's likely there's more going on right now, in terms of bugs..

Maybe. I can't tell what's going on under the hood, and if there's room for further improvements. All in all, at the moment, I wouldn't recommend this for the average user. It's alpha/beta, at best. Don't get me wrong, good stuff to make it possible to get a sneak peek, but, people shouldn't really expect much.

Again, the site says that the CPU should average over 136/108 MIPs, to run the emulator "comfortably". Reality is that I can't run it properly at 150 MIPs average.

sengoku · Post by **sengoku** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:12 pm

this is fantastic

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:26 pm

Recently we had thread where someone wanted to get new machine to host Viper on it and than use it as an instrument, to replace his Virus, think this thing will really open up that possibility even more, even if it would be taxing CPU like mad, dedicating machine for it and than using AudioGridder for networking.

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:53 pm

Emulator is using 8-9% on my i7 5820k which isn't exactly latest hitech CPU processor.

I wouldn't call CPU usage mad at all.

Gosh · Post by **Gosh** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:23 pm

5-7% on my i7 8700. works quite fine with the m4l editor mentioned a few pages ago, program and bank change work...

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:36 pm

Well, it seems that anything with lower specs than i7 just can't properly handle this (my i5 can't

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Roman Wisniak · Post by **Roman Wisniak** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:46 pm

My CPU (Ryzen 7 5800X) uses 6% for one instance of Virus C (_at quite low latency 64 samples_). Each instance uses separate core. All instances are working just fine!

I tried 5 and got bored.

Please release Virus C with GUI...

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:49 pm

i7 is the most suitable thing for music production, great performance even with older ones, I’m more than happy with my old i7 3770, would advise everyone on i5’s to first consider upgrading to i7 before thinking about other machine and if the othet machine is the only option, skip i5 range.

Erisian · Post by **Erisian** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:53 pm

I took one look at the download and install instructions and said to myself, "No Erisian, you don't need the hassle" Thanks for the offer though.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:55 pm

Well, so far this emu was the only thing that really gave me troubles. Repro 5 plays totally fine here, not to say Spire, Massive X, Hive and the others I use regularly.

If this matures into an actually useable plugin, with a GUI and all, I may consider upgrading

numerouno · Post by **numerouno** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:55 pm

Roman Wisniak wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:46 pm My CPU (Ryzen 7 5800X) uses 6% for one instance of Virus C (_at quite low latency 64 samples_). Each instance uses separate core. All instances are working just fine! I tried 5 and got bored.

Please release Virus C with GUI...

Being worked on as we speak

coming soon....

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:26 pm

kmonkey wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:53 pm Emulator is using 8-9% on my i7 5820k which isn't exactly latest hitech CPU processor.

I wouldn't call CPU usage mad at all.

You get no CPU spikes, nothing?

I have a feeling that what I experience is not normal. Because, sometimes the CPU usage definitely is low, and then it jumps up like mad.

And, yes, I do have the high performance power plan activated.

numerouno · Post by **numerouno** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:32 pm

chk071 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:26 pm
kmonkey wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:53 pm Emulator is using 8-9% on my i7 5820k which isn't exactly latest hitech CPU processor.

I wouldn't call CPU usage mad at all.
You get no CPU spikes, nothing?

I have a feeling that what I experience is not normal. Because, sometimes the CPU usage definitely is low, and then it jumps up like mad.

And, yes, I do have the high performance power plan activated.

The spikes are there because the DSP is running in a high priority backgroud thread. If the DSP is fast enough, the DAW will report a very low CPU consumption, even though this is not really true. If the DSP is too slow, it will report 100% instantly.

Improvements will come with time, but at the moment our main focus is the GUI

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:32 pm

chk071 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:26 pm I have a feeling that what I experience is not normal. Because, sometimes the CPU usage definitely is low, and then it jumps up like mad.

Same here.

I guess it somehow identifies the people who wanted "virus in the box" the most and pokes fun at them

What's your CPU? i5? i7? Hyperthreading?

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