Worrying about using old samples and the legal ramifications...

[vurt]

charlie, howdya angels get down like that?

[Passing Bye]

Hahahahahaha

[melomood]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2XyhHVCPRCQ

[Passing Bye]

[ghettosynth]

im not 100% sure what you meant there btw.
i have suspicions of what bros meant, but id like to be wrong

Indeed.

[melomood]

All joking aside I love samplers,sampling & albums made with sampling. Even them dated coldcuts
along with all kinds of other music,so if yer lookin down yer nose you can piss up a rope

with love

[vurt]

Even them dated coldcuts

timber is genius!

[ghettosynth]

My perspective is that most of KVR isn't honestly interested in this topic so much as there is widespread interest in defensive virtue signaling. However, if you are genuinely interested, the article that I linked earlier is a fascinating read, as is this article from the Rutger's University Law review.

http://www.rutgerslawreview.com/wp-cont ... c-Inc..pdf

In particular, I love this.

However, as the Ninth Circuit states, "it is a [logical] fallacy to infer the inverse of a conditional from the conditional." 1 74 This can be illustrated by the following truth table:

Hopefully, the truth table isn't necessary.

In any case, just as the 80s and 90s free-for-all was short-lived, I suspect so is the current prohibition. What is clear from reading the first article is that the Bridgeport decision isn't universally adopted among lower courts. The jury is very definitely still out on the current eye-roll-inducing attitude so prevalent on KVR. Not my opinion, BTW, emphasis mine:

The court thus held "that the 'de minimis' exception applies to action alleging infringement of a copyright to sound recordings." 15 1 In doing so, the Ninth Circuit acknowledged that it was directly creating a circuit split.152 However, the court did note that, as a practical matter, a circuit split already existed because most courts have declined to follow Bridgeport's holding. 153

Also, not from a journal, but this.

https://mauludsadiq.medium.com/negroes- ... 3aebb83cf4

[elxsound]

The discussion is nice, but yeah... cringe worthy because it was like verbal vomit.

The end result is not bad. Interesting at least.

I don't think it was cringe worthy verbal vomit lol. Why is it that when someone chooses to speak their mind, in an elaborate way it's considered verbal vomit? Should I stick to two liners or a couple of sentences because that's the excepted norm on social media nowadays? . The very reason i stopped posting on social media like Facebook etc. is because everyone is so f**king dumbed down, and it's why I chose forums.

And for the fella who wrote "compose for a change" I'm going to say, piss off 90% of composed music out there today is generic, boring, and they all sound the same. Sampling offers a different landscape, and a better texture if you can flip it right. This is why, to me, Hip Hop will forever be the greatest genre. Especially Hip Hop that uses samples circa 50s - 80s. Imagination > composition.

“Elaborate”

Are you from Portland? The last person. I remember saying Hip Hop was the greatest genre was this guy from Portland who sampled the Beatles. The song was basically 2 sampled sections of A Day In The Life on loop, but sure Hip Hop was the greatest.

That’s what I say cringe worthy. I like hip hop, but then you get these people standing on the shoulders of actual greats claiming they did it better because they looped it, that’s when I’m out.

I think sampling can be amazing but those that I know who’ve done it well at least respect the music they’ve sampled. They also know how to listen to more than just hip hop.

[Dasheesh]

every time I think it can"t get any worse... every time I think it's bottomed out....

it gets worse. How does this make money?

[Dasheesh]

since nobody has the answer... I'll edumacate ya.

It's called LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR. It's an algorithm. The more stupid you make it, the easier it is to latch onto. It's what has happened in music for the last 20 years or so. Here today, gone tomorrow... and nobody cares because they all made their money off you. You were stupid enough to buy it.

[BertKoor]

First time I heard that muzak. Tasteless.
The Gaye family apparently get a cut (another topic)

Spotify. You don't conciously "buy" tracks you like, they just come along.

[donkey tugger]

every time I think it can"t get any worse... every time I think it's bottomed out....

it gets worse. How does this make money?

That's f**king appalling, but doesn't invalidate the premise that sampling can be used in an original and creative way.

[Passing Bye]

Sampling can be used in creative and original way, but all the legal burden just doesn't make it attractive that much, it's lot off work for someone who can just call up VI and make all the parts himself, even sample his own elements and play them on MPC.

I'm not religious about boom bap or any style, it's not heresy to make music without sampling old records, it's not authentic either, it's been done to death already and there's really no actual reason than nostalgic/cultural to do so... I just don't get how someone who think of himself as creative person can't make anything creative without going sampling route...

But than again, if you are making your next boom bap beat, you really don't have to worry, probably not many people will hear it anyways and records labels wouldn't care to pursue further legal actions either, at this point some streaming site algorithms can detect some of the samples in some cases and copyright owners just monetize or reject giving permissions... if sampling is worth having to deal with that stuff, knock yourself out.

[Passing Bye]

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