well, that explains a lot of things.
A Short History Of You?
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 17786 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
I only ever got to be a 2IC. I was a Captain when I resigned.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
...left CERN in 1989 aged 3 leaving my proposals on distributed information systems to a young intern called Tim Berners Lee...
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
nuffink quoth...left CERN in 1989 aged 3 leaving my proposals on distributed information systems to a young intern called Tim Berners Lee...
Ah, ripped off Ted Nelson then. Kids, eh?
Ah, ripped off Ted Nelson then. Kids, eh?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 2093 posts since 19 Jun, 2003 from UTM 18 317254E 4295335N (WGS84/NAD83)
Mystahr, did you mean me? I can't remember doing half this stuff?
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- KVRAF
- 25030 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Great thread 
Until I was sixteen or seventeen I did not know what a chord is , not even what a bar is.
Music was besides math and sports my most hated lesson in school.
A good friend of mine who is a big talent (he's doing film/tv/advertisement music now) had a keyboard with a built-in sequencer (some Yamaha PSR thingy) and composed beautyful tracks with it. I was envious and thought the girls would like him much more for it than they would like me. So I bought myself a PSR-thingy.
I still didn't know that chords and bars exist.
- but I messed with the sequencer of my keyboard nonetheless.
Around the same time a neighbour in the house I lived in threw away a classical-guitar. I found it in the room where the garbage-bins are kept.
At that time I didn't know that you have to press the strings upon the fretboard to get different notes.
I really knew nothing.
A friend gave me some guitar-teaching-books.
I learnt to rudimently read and write notes.
When I was nineteen ( and already had tortured my family for two or three years ) I had enough money for taking guitar-lessons.
When about half a year later I finally had managed to understand what 1/16notes are my teacher said he actually should open a bottle of champagne now.
All the time I 'composed' my own stuff.
Then came the very first bands. I wanted to play keyboards at that time, sold my guitar and bought a Poly800 and a DX9. Later on I sold the former and kept the latter.
edit (forgot to mention): I don't know when exactly, but during the first half of the nineties I managed to get very cheaply a beautyful old piano (which lead to some serious problems with my parents )
Then I bought my first bass-guitar and started playing it in several bands. This was around 93/94.
Around this time I got an old ST cheaply from a friend and used at first Steinberg 24 and after that Notator with it. My compositions became more and more complex. I was into prog-rock and new age while all my friends were first into metal and then grunge. (Genesis and (later also Marillion) were and still are my all-time-favourite band(s)).
Then I started studying, moved therefor into another town and played there for 3-4 years bass-guitar in an avantgarde-band. (With the singer from this band I still have a project going on)
In between I also played keys in a prog band for about half a year or so.
Around 2000 I started playing guitar again.
(at first with borrowed ones because I had sold mine
years ago.)
About two years ago I quit my studies because I suddenly knew that I don't want to waste my life as a manager or so who earns a lot of money but doesn't have time to do the things he actually loves to do.
Today I am 31 and can say 'I am an artist'.
(besides making music I am also working on a novel
)
Sorry for the long and boring post but I tried to keep it short&entertaining 
Until I was sixteen or seventeen I did not know what a chord is , not even what a bar is.
Music was besides math and sports my most hated lesson in school.
A good friend of mine who is a big talent (he's doing film/tv/advertisement music now) had a keyboard with a built-in sequencer (some Yamaha PSR thingy) and composed beautyful tracks with it. I was envious and thought the girls would like him much more for it than they would like me. So I bought myself a PSR-thingy.
I still didn't know that chords and bars exist.
- but I messed with the sequencer of my keyboard nonetheless. Around the same time a neighbour in the house I lived in threw away a classical-guitar. I found it in the room where the garbage-bins are kept.
At that time I didn't know that you have to press the strings upon the fretboard to get different notes.
I really knew nothing.
A friend gave me some guitar-teaching-books.
I learnt to rudimently read and write notes.
When I was nineteen ( and already had tortured my family for two or three years
) I had enough money for taking guitar-lessons.When about half a year later I finally had managed to understand what 1/16notes are my teacher said he actually should open a bottle of champagne now.
All the time I 'composed' my own stuff.
Then came the very first bands. I wanted to play keyboards at that time, sold my guitar and bought a Poly800 and a DX9. Later on I sold the former and kept the latter.
edit (forgot to mention): I don't know when exactly, but during the first half of the nineties I managed to get very cheaply a beautyful old piano (which lead to some serious problems with my parents
)Then I bought my first bass-guitar and started playing it in several bands. This was around 93/94.
Around this time I got an old ST cheaply from a friend and used at first Steinberg 24 and after that Notator with it. My compositions became more and more complex. I was into prog-rock and new age while all my friends were first into metal and then grunge. (Genesis and (later also Marillion) were and still are my all-time-favourite band(s)).
Then I started studying, moved therefor into another town and played there for 3-4 years bass-guitar in an avantgarde-band. (With the singer from this band I still have a project going on)
In between I also played keys in a prog band for about half a year or so.
Around 2000 I started playing guitar again.
(at first with borrowed ones because I had sold mine
years ago.)
About two years ago I quit my studies because I suddenly knew that I don't want to waste my life as a manager or so who earns a lot of money but doesn't have time to do the things he actually loves to do.
Today I am 31 and can say 'I am an artist'.
(besides making music I am also working on a novel
)Sorry for the long and boring post but I tried to keep it short&entertaining
Last edited by jens on Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:29 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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- KVRAF
- 4738 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
Got my first computer in 1984 (http://www.old-computers.com/museum/com ... c=229&st=1)
Started coding 1988, took piano classes for a year 1990/1991. Started making music in trackers 1992 or so, bought my JD800 1996. Studied electronic engineering for four years in Umeå, northern sweden. Started working at DiCE 2002.
And here I am. Girlfriend, a flat and two cats. Life ruuu.
Started coding 1988, took piano classes for a year 1990/1991. Started making music in trackers 1992 or so, bought my JD800 1996. Studied electronic engineering for four years in Umeå, northern sweden. Started working at DiCE 2002.
And here I am. Girlfriend, a flat and two cats. Life ruuu.
Stefan H Singer
https://dropshotaudio.com/
https://dropshotaudio.com/
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- KVRAF
- 1740 posts since 6 Jan, 2004 from USA
i only remember my history in terms of school, so here goes:
gradeschool - piano lessons and choir
middle school - i wanted to play drums in the band, but there were too many, so i ended up playing the trumpet for two years (rock on! )
high school - bought my first 4-track, played drums with some guys, vocals, eventually learned bass 'cause we could never find a bass player and quit drumming.
college - did mostly vocals, some bass playing (six months)
picked my ass, drank, f**ked off (about a year - still in college)
picked up bass and singing again with some guys - played some parties, sold my four track, bought my first computer, learned how to record some music into it (2.5 years, still in college)
higher education - had collected a bass and acoustic bass by now, was doing stuff mainly by myself. eventually picked up a guitar and acoustic guitar - i can play power chords but thats all.
now - i've got 2 electric guitars, 1 acoustic, 2 electric basses, 1 acoustic, bought some decent mics - collaborating with 2 guys (one in florida, one in kentucky - aka Dr. Acula)
found KvR, n-track, fruity loops, vsts and ..............the rest is unwritten
i still have that damn trumpet.............
lates
t-willy
gradeschool - piano lessons and choir
middle school - i wanted to play drums in the band, but there were too many, so i ended up playing the trumpet for two years (rock on!
)high school - bought my first 4-track, played drums with some guys, vocals, eventually learned bass 'cause we could never find a bass player and quit drumming.
college - did mostly vocals, some bass playing (six months)
picked my ass, drank, f**ked off (about a year - still in college)
picked up bass and singing again with some guys - played some parties, sold my four track, bought my first computer, learned how to record some music into it (2.5 years, still in college)
higher education - had collected a bass and acoustic bass by now, was doing stuff mainly by myself. eventually picked up a guitar and acoustic guitar - i can play power chords but thats all.
now - i've got 2 electric guitars, 1 acoustic, 2 electric basses, 1 acoustic, bought some decent mics - collaborating with 2 guys (one in florida, one in kentucky - aka Dr. Acula)
found KvR, n-track, fruity loops, vsts and ..............the rest is unwritten
i still have that damn trumpet.............
lates
t-willy
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- KVRist
- 47 posts since 24 Sep, 2003 from USA
Okay, I was always interested in music and was in a couple of shitty bands in the mid nineties (singing...err..yelling) but never played an instrument.
Right around this time (94?) was part of an emerging rave/club scene (I know, late to the states) in the midwest, and became very interested in dance music. Did some drugs (nothing too major) had some fun, but still thought nothing of making music until.....
Mtv music generator for Playstation (like a couple of you guys) sparked my interest. Quickly seeing the limitations of this "game" my then roommate (now brother-in-law) and I began began assembling a half-assed studio. He purchased Magix, as well as a Roland MC-505 and eventually a Roland SP-808 as well.
This was all we used for a while (assembling entire songs on a sampler sucks!) when we tired of playing the 505's small keys. I picked up a sweet ass Casio as a controller, and also an amp and a pair of Tannoy (cheapest ones) monitor speakers.
Writing songs like this became tiresome, and the software scene was starting to emerge as a viable musical tool. Faced with the decision of purchasing Cakewalk Sonar or a hardware recorder, Sonar and an M-Audio sound card came home with us. What a revelation!!!!...computers made sequencing (which I still hate) SO MUCH EASIER. I couldn't believe you could just cut,paste, alter, etc.. audio like that.
Shortly thereafter, my roomy picked up a Roland XV-5050, and I a couple expansion cards for it.
At this time our preferred method was still to record audio direct to Sonar, and compose using these "home brewed" loops. This became tedious as properly looping pads and basslines began to become bothersome (god damn clicks). Then it occurred to us that if we sequenced entirely in midi, this wouldn't be a problem. We took some time and got our heads around midi (which oddly enough seemed confusing then) and then began to sequence in midi alone, which solved the "looping noise" problem.
Now we were having problems with the analog outs of our gear, and the amount of noise in our recordings. I was turned onto soft synths and plugins by a pal at a local Mars Music. I couldn't believe there was NO NOISE. I mean I understood theoretically why, but to hear an instrument sound exactly the same after being recorded as it sounded playing in real-time was pretty astounding to me.
I stumbled onto kvr just doing an internet search on soft synth reviews.
I discovered there was a forum.
I read for a couple years before posting.
You cursed a-holes made me spend all kinds of money on software.
Nothing will ever be the same.
Oh, and during all this somewhere my roommate married my sister and took most of the good gear with him. I now have more than him, and love to rub it in.
One more thing, I'm a half-shite pianist (if you could even use the word pianist) but I'm good enough to get by with the kind of stuff I make. I do have a knack for devouring information though, and have at least some knowledge on every aspect of "recording", and am quite good with computers... which certainly helps these days. I've read some basics about theory and arranging, but always seem to come back to just "play what you like" when I find myself focusing too much on what chord progression I'm playing, or do I use the key of "C" too much . Anyway, thanks for reading.
Right around this time (94?) was part of an emerging rave/club scene (I know, late to the states) in the midwest, and became very interested in dance music. Did some drugs (nothing too major) had some fun, but still thought nothing of making music until.....
Mtv music generator for Playstation (like a couple of you guys) sparked my interest. Quickly seeing the limitations of this "game" my then roommate (now brother-in-law) and I began began assembling a half-assed studio. He purchased Magix, as well as a Roland MC-505 and eventually a Roland SP-808 as well.
This was all we used for a while (assembling entire songs on a sampler sucks!) when we tired of playing the 505's small keys. I picked up a sweet ass Casio
as a controller, and also an amp and a pair of Tannoy (cheapest ones) monitor speakers.Writing songs like this became tiresome, and the software scene was starting to emerge as a viable musical tool. Faced with the decision of purchasing Cakewalk Sonar or a hardware recorder, Sonar and an M-Audio sound card came home with us. What a revelation!!!!...computers made sequencing (which I still hate) SO MUCH EASIER. I couldn't believe you could just cut,paste, alter, etc.. audio like that.
Shortly thereafter, my roomy picked up a Roland XV-5050, and I a couple expansion cards for it.
At this time our preferred method was still to record audio direct to Sonar, and compose using these "home brewed" loops. This became tedious as properly looping pads and basslines began to become bothersome (god damn clicks). Then it occurred to us that if we sequenced entirely in midi, this wouldn't be a problem. We took some time and got our heads around midi (which oddly enough seemed confusing then) and then began to sequence in midi alone, which solved the "looping noise" problem.
Now we were having problems with the analog outs of our gear, and the amount of noise in our recordings. I was turned onto soft synths and plugins by a pal at a local Mars Music. I couldn't believe there was NO NOISE. I mean I understood theoretically why, but to hear an instrument sound exactly the same after being recorded as it sounded playing in real-time was pretty astounding to me.
I stumbled onto kvr just doing an internet search on soft synth reviews.
I discovered there was a forum.
I read for a couple years before posting.
You cursed a-holes made me spend all kinds of money on software.
Nothing will ever be the same.
Oh, and during all this somewhere my roommate married my sister and took most of the good gear with him. I now have more than him, and love to rub it in.
One more thing, I'm a half-shite pianist (if you could even use the word pianist) but I'm good enough to get by with the kind of stuff I make. I do have a knack for devouring information though, and have at least some knowledge on every aspect of "recording", and am quite good with computers... which certainly helps these days. I've read some basics about theory and arranging, but always seem to come back to just "play what you like" when I find myself focusing too much on what chord progression I'm playing, or do I use the key of "C" too much
. Anyway, thanks for reading."Contrary to what most people say, the most dangerous animal in the world is not the lion or the tiger or even the elephant. It's a shark riding on an elephant's back, just trampling and eating everything they see." -Jack Handey
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- KVRAF
- 25030 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
jens wrote:Great thread
Until I was sixteen or seventeen....
Today I am 31
- forgot to mention my first pc ever (winter 2001) at all - great technology nowadays - was finally very unsatisfied with working in bands.Now I have the possibility to do it all on my own (except singing) and suddenly people like my music.
Don't need to put guitar in a tune if I don't want to.
Don't need to use e-bass when a synth is more appropriate.
Don't have to explain the drummer what the rhythm actually is like.
Don't have to mess with a keyboarder who thinks the cheap string-sound is all the song needs.
Don't have to tell the guitar-player he's again twice as loud as the rest of the band.
Can tell the singer his/her lyrics suck.
Can tell the guitar-player his solo is too long.
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- KVRAF
- 25030 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
CypherOne wrote:so a computer helped you to communicate jens? are you sure you're not really Stephen Hawking??
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- KVRAF
- 25030 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
I'm the composer/arranger/performer/producer so it's all mine all mine
- it's usually not a good idea too criticize someone else who plays in a band with you because it's too democratic
'erm, are you really sure this is correct english?'
- and then the discussion starts
- it's usually not a good idea too criticize someone else who plays in a band with you because it's too democratic
'erm, are you really sure this is correct english?'
- and then the discussion starts
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- KVRAF
- 2139 posts since 15 Jul, 2003 from ex-NJ, PA
Around age 8, I started lessons on accordion -- I was influenced by two cousins who were also musical at the time. My brother also started taking drum lessons at this time.
Like many others, hated practicing (baseball was always first!). I guess I was good at it in the sense that an hour before my lesson, I would practice what I needed to know for that week, and usually it went well, usually.
Eventually, switched to piano around age 15 or so. Once again, didn't practice as much as I wish I would have .
Played synths in some garage bands (that really only played at the local "Battle of the Bands") in early high school. First synths were Korg Poly 61-M, and then picked up a Poly 800mkII.
In college, joined a good cover band in NJ ("Tin Pan Alley") and bought a D-50 (still have). The band eventually became a U2 tribute band.
Somewhere along the got into sequencing songs with a Brother PDC (? - step sequencer). This turned into picking up an X3.
Joined another cover band for a fews years...then had my own 3-piece 80s cover band -- all sequencing done on a Trinity.
Graduated to PC based recording with CW PA8.
Finally, about 3+ years ago, quit the live gig scene, and started writing for Auracle Music.
-- I was influenced by two cousins who were also musical at the time. My brother also started taking drum lessons at this time. Like many others, hated practicing (baseball was always first!). I guess I was good at it in the sense that an hour before my lesson, I would practice what I needed to know for that week, and usually it went well, usually.
Eventually, switched to piano around age 15 or so. Once again, didn't practice as much as I wish I would have
. Played synths in some garage bands (that really only played at the local "Battle of the Bands") in early high school. First synths were Korg Poly 61-M, and then picked up a Poly 800mkII.
In college, joined a good cover band in NJ ("Tin Pan Alley") and bought a D-50 (still have). The band eventually became a U2 tribute band.
Somewhere along the got into sequencing songs with a Brother PDC (? - step sequencer). This turned into picking up an X3.
Joined another cover band for a fews years...then had my own 3-piece 80s cover band -- all sequencing done on a Trinity.
Graduated to PC based recording with CW PA8.
Finally, about 3+ years ago, quit the live gig scene, and started writing for Auracle Music.
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- KVRian
- 1103 posts since 19 Apr, 2004 from Trent Severn WaterWay
When" Deep Purple in Rock "came out I'd listen to Child in Time and thought yea! I want to play that lead,,but I soon hated the guitar cause my old man used to sit in front of me rollin his eye's,,I'd think to myself ,just a little closer and I could bash him in the head with it and run for it.
It was easier to just steal away in the nite, guitar in hand.
Finished high school playin clarinet ,but used to get my ass kicked,,so I dropped it and started working out,,found a new use for the clarinet though,but it was rendered unplayable.
Started a band ,but with no drummers around I grabed a Panasonic drum machine and played that live,soon,the buttons were crunched so I got a kit and started lessons,,Vortex was born,,we wore v-necks.
Got pretty good and did some gigs until the bass player started smoking on stage with 1 hand and strummin open e-string with the other,,fired,,we finished the last couple shows with a Pro-One as bass.Always laffed we replaced him with the Pro-One on the floor stuck with clothes pins clamped to the keys.Fact,we taped the name Bruce on it..
Went through years of guest spots on drums in the local pubs,,I had a cool flam-a-diddle..
Now working in a studio,,I learned about computers and keyboards,,but my real forte,,black coffee!!
At 50,,my real passion is to head to the cottage with all the gear away from the family and just play and fish.The sound across the lake is wonderfull and every once in a while I hear,,YOU SUCK MAN!!
Life is Great!!!
It was easier to just steal away in the nite, guitar in hand.
Finished high school playin clarinet ,but used to get my ass kicked,,so I dropped it and started working out,,found a new use for the clarinet though,but it was rendered unplayable.
Started a band ,but with no drummers around I grabed a Panasonic drum machine and played that live,soon,the buttons were crunched so I got a kit and started lessons,,Vortex was born,,we wore v-necks.
Got pretty good and did some gigs until the bass player started smoking on stage with 1 hand and strummin open e-string with the other,,fired,,we finished the last couple shows with a Pro-One as bass.Always laffed we replaced him with the Pro-One on the floor stuck with clothes pins clamped to the keys.Fact,we taped the name Bruce on it..
Went through years of guest spots on drums in the local pubs,,I had a cool flam-a-diddle..
Now working in a studio,,I learned about computers and keyboards,,but my real forte,,black coffee!!
At 50,,my real passion is to head to the cottage with all the gear away from the family and just play and fish.The sound across the lake is wonderfull and every once in a while I hear,,YOU SUCK MAN!!
Life is Great!!!