Your favorite "versatile analog-modelled/emulation" synth plugin?
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- KVRian
- 693 posts since 18 Apr, 2021
I've owned a couple of analogue hardware synths, including the HS-60, and they're not always as good as people would like to think they are, unless you had one of the really expensive ones
And they all sound quite different, so what analogue sounds like depends on what you're used to, not just something which sounds "warm" and "fat", in which case personally I would take the CZ over most analogue synths
If I had to pick one analogue emulation soft synth I would probably go for Saurus, for versatility and excellent sound
And they all sound quite different, so what analogue sounds like depends on what you're used to, not just something which sounds "warm" and "fat", in which case personally I would take the CZ over most analogue synths
If I had to pick one analogue emulation soft synth I would probably go for Saurus, for versatility and excellent sound
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Saurus sounds good, but, I would say that I know at least 10 soft synths, which sound more "analog". Saurus sounds like a Tone2 synths. Digital. (Someone described it as a mixture between a Virus and a Waldorf synth on steroids once, which is quite appropriate, I think.YnJ wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:26 pm If I had to pick one analogue emulation soft synth I would probably go for Saurus, for versatility and excellent sound
- KVRian
- 920 posts since 12 Jan, 2004 from Boston, MA
Agree. Coincidentally, I just bought Saurus (and Rayblaster and Warlock) this morning.chk071 wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:29 pm Saurus sounds good, but, I would say that I know at least 10 soft synths, which sound more "analog". Saurus sounds like a Tone2 synths. Digital.
Tone2 does make really good-sounding synths, but it is a decidedly digital sound. (...which I love. I also love analog sounds. ...and organic sounds. ...and acoustic sounds. ...wait, am I polyamorous?! Shit. I think I might be.)
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- KVRian
- 693 posts since 18 Apr, 2021
Again, depends on what you think sound analogue, it sounds more analogue than any analogue hardware synth I have owned or played, and set right I doubt you could tell which one was analogue or not compared to most hardware analogue synths made. It seems like the benchmark for analogue is the MiniMoog, and anything that sounds like that is more analogue than any other synth, from that point of view I would agree with you. As written though, the CZ sounds more "analogue" than most actual analogue synthschk071 wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:29 pmSaurus sounds good, but, I would say that I know at least 10 soft synths, which sound more "analog". Saurus sounds like a Tone2 synths. Digital. (Someone described it as a mixture between a Virus and a Waldorf synth on steroids once, which is quite appropriate, I think.YnJ wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:26 pm If I had to pick one analogue emulation soft synth I would probably go for Saurus, for versatility and excellent soundEven though they lack a bit of punch compared with these.) Not meant in a bad way, it's just that the "analog modelling", if any, is not really apparent in Saurus.
- KVRian
- 920 posts since 12 Jan, 2004 from Boston, MA
O_oYnJ wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:02 pm As written though, the CZ sounds more "analogue" than most actual analogue synths
One must trust their own ears, I suppose.
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Then I wonder what standard you have for analogue sound in general, if a soft synth sounds more analogue than any analogue hardware synth you ever owned or played.YnJ wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:02 pm Again, depends on what you think sound analogue, it sounds more analogue than any analogue hardware synth I have owned or played
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- KVRAF
- 6780 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
I think he means a lot of plugins have exaggerated imperfections compared to the actual professional anaolog gear.
I.e they sound like a caricature of what they are because people expect “grit” and “dirtiness”.
Certainly true for reel to reel tape plugs, which sound more “tapey” than my consumer cassette deck.
I.e they sound like a caricature of what they are because people expect “grit” and “dirtiness”.
Certainly true for reel to reel tape plugs, which sound more “tapey” than my consumer cassette deck.
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Ok, I can understand that. I felt that way when I modelled Softube's Model 72. It sounded somewhat exaggerated, and synthetic... not as organic as Monark, for example. Almost as if you paint a picture of something, rather than taking a photograph. 
I'm just asking myself why he feels that it sounds more analogue then, if it's really exaggerated analogue. Or something.
I'm just asking myself why he feels that it sounds more analogue then, if it's really exaggerated analogue. Or something.
- KVRAF
- 14476 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
Hmm... I am old enough to have played minimoogs over the years (though never owning one), it had the ability (like zebra2) to be able to just fit in a track, whether you are using it for Bass, Lead, whatever, it just fitted in the track, which I think is a huge part of why it was so popular and widely for so long.... Of the software mini moogs I have tried, only Model 72 does that as well as it does (I also own Legend and Monark).
But indeed I do agree with the larger point that if you never grew up on Analog or played one for extensive periods the reputation that has often been written about them may not be exactly the same.
rsp
But indeed I do agree with the larger point that if you never grew up on Analog or played one for extensive periods the reputation that has often been written about them may not be exactly the same.
rsp
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- KVRAF
- 1752 posts since 2 Jul, 2018
Saurus1 indeed was quite cold soundwise because it lacked from low-end.chk071 wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:29 pmSaurus sounds good, but, I would say that I know at least 10 soft synths, which sound more "analog". Saurus sounds like a Tone2 synths. Digital. (Someone described it as a mixture between a Virus and a Waldorf synth on steroids once, which is quite appropriate, I think.YnJ wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:26 pm If I had to pick one analogue emulation soft synth I would probably go for Saurus, for versatility and excellent soundEven though they lack a bit of punch compared with these.) Not meant in a bad way, it's just that the "analog modelling", if any, is not really apparent in Saurus.
We drasticaly have improved Saurus during the last years. Saurus 2 sounded 'more analog' than Saurus1. The free upgrade to Saurus3 now sounds 'even more analog' than my own analog hardware. It also has a lot more punch.
You can select the degree of 'analogishness' in the 'Config' menu.
To init an analog patch click FILE->init analog.
You can convince yourself by downloading the free demo of Saurus3 which is available here:
https://www.tone2.com/download.html
We also reduced the price of Saurus3 to €59 / $69:
https://www.tone2.com/saurus.html
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- KVRAF
- 1752 posts since 2 Jul, 2018
@AnX: You're on my ignore list. I don't waste my time to answer or read your mental effusions
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- KVRAF
- 2442 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future
Just bought Polymode and because it's first and only emulation i've got so probably this will be my only one hahahaha:)
It's really nice to play with it,gives that nostalgic 70-80 feeling.
Cheers
It's really nice to play with it,gives that nostalgic 70-80 feeling.
Cheers
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- KVRian
- 693 posts since 18 Apr, 2021
I never had a MiniMoog, or a CS-80 or a Jupiter 8, and you're missing my point completely. What's the standard? Who decides the standard? You can get soft synths sounding identical to the MiniMoog, if that's the standard, most hardware analogue synths didn't sound anything like that. I used "analogue" in the meaning sounding what you would expect analogue sounding, I think a lot of you would feel disappointed presented with a lot of the actual analogue hardware synths produced over the yearschk071 wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:26 pmThen I wonder what standard you have for analogue sound in general, if a soft synth sounds more analogue than any analogue hardware synth you ever owned or played.YnJ wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:02 pm Again, depends on what you think sound analogue, it sounds more analogue than any analogue hardware synth I have owned or played

