Waldorf Micro Q Emulator (Vavra)

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SouledOut wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:25 pm
frag wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:57 pm Vavra beta works fine. Volume is too low, and Save doesn't work.
As to the volume, this is not emulator devs fault, but it's exactly how the real Waldorf MicroQ behaves. It's output is just a bit too low for some obscure reason.
Great, volume is resolved.

My issue with saving is related to DROP MENUS in 32bit bridging. In x64 host everything works fine. It's a general issue.
I use JBridge, there is no option to fix this.
It seems to be the problem with WS_CHILD, GetForegroundWindow and related parameters within plugins themselves.
I suppose Drop menu appears as a separate window, and JBridge kills it in order to fix GUI. It thinks drop menu is GUI error!
I can use all important features in x86 host, I just hold mouse button and press arrow keys while drop menu blinks. It works.
But some options don't "blink", they just disappear very quickly.
I set GUI size and latency in VST wrapper, and then load plugin in x86 host.

Perhaps developers might adjust these drop menu windows differently, so that JBridge or whatever bridging plugin understands that they're part of GUI.

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SouledOut wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:25 pm
frag wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:57 pm Vavra beta works fine. Volume is too low, and Save doesn't work.
As to the volume, this is not emulator devs fault, but it's exactly how the real Waldorf MicroQ behaves. It's output is just a bit too low for some obscure reason.
I used to have a micro-q and I recall it running about the same volume as Vavra, about what I'd expect from a hardware synth. Micro-q was multitimbral and could do 6 voice unison so there needed to be a fair amount of headroom to allow for that.

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gentleclockdivider wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:12 pm ....The q ( and to some extend the micro Q ) are imho far superior to the virus , filter FM and a really fast modulation ( update rate ) matrix !!
I went through a bunch of different Virus versions - B, Classic, C, and TI, both modules and keyboards, and always ended up getting bored with them and selling.

But through all those, I kept a Waldorf Q for over 20 years, and always seemed to find something new with it.
The Waldorf stuff does have a definitely different sound to it though, and it seems most people have a love it or hate it feel towards it.

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frag wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:53 pm My issue with saving is related to DROP MENUS in 32bit bridging. In x64 host everything works fine. It's a general issue.

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Perhaps developers might adjust these drop menu windows differently, so that JBridge or whatever bridging plugin understands that they're part of GUI.
This doesn't address your issue but it's worth noting that the following was posted in the Discord over the weekend:

"while it would be technically possible to have a 32-bit version, it would lose performance to the point of making it unusable
tldr, no 32-bit version release is planned"

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felis wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:57 pm The Waldorf stuff does have a definitely different sound to it though, and it seems most people have a love it or hate it feel towards it.
I owned the hardware Micro Q and hated it but I love the plugin. The obvious difference is the UI, working with the plugin is sooooo much better than working with the Micro Q's matrix panel, but also I find that I can appreciate its bright, edgy character when it's a plugin more than when it's hardware. Basically, I expect my hardware synths to cover a lot of ground for me, whereas I don't mind a plugin that I only use 20% of the time.

Also, instant access to all the preset banks is way better than doing SYSEX dumps.

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Uncle E wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:27 pm
frag wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:53 pm My issue with saving is related to DROP MENUS in 32bit bridging. In x64 host everything works fine. It's a general issue.

<snip>

Perhaps developers might adjust these drop menu windows differently, so that JBridge or whatever bridging plugin understands that they're part of GUI.
This doesn't address your issue but it's worth noting that the following was posted in the Discord over the weekend:

"while it would be technically possible to have a 32-bit version, it would lose performance to the point of making it unusable
tldr, no 32-bit version release is planned"
Of course, I don't expect 32bit version. But they could look at these bridging GUI issues.

Virus C is very stable, CPU spikes and glitches are very rare.

Micro Q, on the other hand, needs a bit more tweaking. There are noticeably more pops and crackles, under same buffer settings.

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The Q sounds so much better if you put some modulation effect and a filter with just a tad of resonance added. The piercing harshness is tamed and it now starts to fit in a mix. I never got into Waldorf's hw due to the piercing nature of the sound, but running it as a plugin it is easy to tame it this way.
Maybe a community artist even comes up with the bright yellow UI and I'll be very happy 😊

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A quick boost in volume can be had in the fx section. Drive can bring up the volume a lot, as can the 5 fx multi thing.

I bought a Micro-Q way back when, but returned it after a few days for a Q.
The Q sounded much better to me, but it's been gone for a while now, and this Varva
is a nice replacement for a lot of the stuff I liked about it.

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frag wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:23 pm Of course, I don't expect 32bit version. But they could look at these bridging GUI issues.

Virus C is very stable, CPU spikes and glitches are very rare.

Micro Q, on the other hand, needs a bit more tweaking. There are noticeably more pops and crackles, under same buffer settings.
Got it. Please report to the Discord. They are very responsive.

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felis wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:54 pm I bought a Micro-Q way back when, but returned it after a few days for a Q.
The Q sounded much better to me, but it's been gone for a while now, and this Varva
is a nice replacement for a lot of the stuff I liked about it.
Hopefully they will be able to do the full-fledged Q in the future.

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I do remember actually being able to play a hardware version and remember the volume was low. It was so long ago I don't remember if it was Q or MicroQ . They're both that weird urine color, so I don't know.

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"Aus deutschen Landen frisch auf den Tisch"

those demo songs are bonkers :D

"Schnittchen..."

hehehe...
:party:

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anybody knows how to use it as FX module ?

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Since it`s "original MicroQ code" - will import and export(!) work fine?
Like in midi format (as the usual format of MicroQ preset banks in the past)?

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Uncle E wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:11 pm
felis wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:54 pm I bought a Micro-Q way back when, but returned it after a few days for a Q.
The Q sounded much better to me, but it's been gone for a while now, and this Varva
is a nice replacement for a lot of the stuff I liked about it.
Hopefully they will be able to do the full-fledged Q in the future.
Oh its coming....

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