Ohmforce Frohmager - free plugin

[pough]

the link hasnt been working for days...when will they fix it?

I think it's kind of the other way around. The link wasn't supposed to go live yet but it the page before the link was published by mistake.

[abstractdolphin]

Would you consider putting the source up on Github or something? There's enough love for these plugins & desire to see them updated that they could possibly turn into a Surge XT-esque open source project...

We don't make a new free Frohmager because we're leaving the business you know

We did consider very strongly doing that for Ohm Studio though.

Will ohm studio be coming back?

[Red_Force]

Not by us.
There has been a strong internal debate on making it open source based on the amazing work of people from the ohmstudio community with who whe shared the source code (thx Ira btw). We ultimately ruled against it as a collective. The debate was strong tho.

[Teksonik]

So about this.
Mac has killed us support wise. We should have stopped supporting those years ago. Support has been horrible because...

Catalina is released. Plugin still works, but installer won't. Now when you have a large catalog of old apps this is very bad news bc updating old stuff is costly, painful, and sales are too low to cover it.
So we wouldn't update it but some of you guys found a way to install it and I took on me to take the method and make it available officially. The "Catalina package", a fiddly manual install process that allowed many people to still get the Ohmicide they wanted etc.

Big Sur is released. Out of nowhere the UI are corrupted. We don't know what to do bc at the time there is a resistance to moving to Big Sur. Maybe Apple will fix it.

And they do! Next version, plugins work *again* but only if you have an Apple processor. Intel are screwed.

Can you see the nightmare of dealing with support on this? It's not like we have the size and scope to deal with having multiple MacOS setup to test them all.

Well, that's in good part why those products are now freely available - but also free of support. We value a lot longevity of audio gear, be it app or hardware. So it matters that you guys can still find it.

As for the new stuff, despite a disastrous image on kvr where a lot of early access of infinity (of which the process introduced bugs newcomers won't have) it just runs like normal plugins.
Shoot if you have issues because those are supported.

Thank you so much for addressing the elephant in the room. It's great to see a developer come out and actually tell it like it is.

I have personally seen new products delayed because developers (especially smaller operations) have to waste time to go back and fix all their older plugins just because Apple has changed a line of code in their OS.

I've said it many time before Macs are nothing but speed bumps on the highway of development.

Now before some Mac head get triggered this isn't about Mac vs PC this is about reality. Mac support slows down real development (you know like new features and functions instead of just constant maintenance updates) and that is just a fact.

So if Mac users claim the right to complain and whine because developers can't or won't keep up with the constant Apple change train then PC users have the right to express their displeasure at Mac for being an anchor around the neck of development.

I'd love to see all Mac support dropped by all developers to force users to turn on Apple instead of turning on some small software developer just trying to stay in business.

[revvy]

Finally, the voice of reason. Thank you for tackling that elephant.

I’m going off to have a quick piss and then to make some music

[dayjob]

I'd love to see all Mac support dropped by all developers to force users to turn on Apple instead of turning on some small software developer just trying to stay in business.

wouldn't really matter to apple. us audio people are a tiny slice of their market.. but your idea is totally unreasonable and draconian.

it would make more sense for windows users not to buy any software that is developed for windows and apple.. and only buy software that is windows only. vote with your dollars.

[Debutante]

...this is why I don't dabble with the (cr)Apple. Nice to see you guys out again.

[kingtubby]

ahem...Frohmager is actually available now.

[dayjob]

just checked the installer using "Suspicious package". the component/vst3 both are intel only so if you're on apple silicon it will require Rosetta.

not gonna install it. someone let us know how it sounds.

[Xenos]

Wow, apparently all their old plugins are now legacy and FREE!

Yeah, apparently we're late to the party lol. I literally just found out about this yesterday. Wanted the Ohmicide distortion plugin for years, so I head over there to finally buy it and got one hell of a nice surprise .

[Ah_Dziz]

Well that's nice of them. I use ohmboys and ohmicide regularly to this day. I guess I'll check out their new thingy too.

[DJMaytag]

So about this.
Mac has killed us support wise. We should have stopped supporting those years ago. Support has been horrible because...

Yeah, this has been a nightmare for all of us. I still won’t upgrade a 2016 MBP to Catalina because I don’t want to lose working versions of certain apps and plugins.

I upgraded to a M1 Mac Studio, so I need that old machine to access old projects to try to translate anything from those to the new machine (trying to replicate certain FX settings as much as possible).

But from this point forward… it seems as if macOS instability should be a thing of the past, now that there’s been a transition from supporting both Intel and Apple Silicon, to macOS being primarily AS based. The upgrade from Monterey to Ventura was seamless, and other have reported no issues (with their software anyway) moving up to… whatever the latest version is.

If anything, now should be a damn good time to get back into things after a break, as Apple Silicon is going to be the future for Macs, with bankruptcy being the only thing preventing that being the platform of the future for Apple. Cut legacy Intel support for macOS and only support AS from this point forward.

[foosnark]

I just gave Frohmager a try. It sounds good, but there seems to be a pretty heavy slew on the cutoff frequency (modulating it with a square LFO from Bitwig, or even just manually turning the knob quickly).

[diroxe7660]

Choosing a preset from Reaper's own preset dropdown crashes the DAW for me. Frohmager's own preset UI works fine though.

[pough]

Choosing a preset from Reaper's own preset dropdown crashes the DAW for me. Frohmager's own preset UI works fine though.

Confirmed for the VST3 plugin in Reaper 7 and Waveform 12.5. The VST2 plugin doesn't crash anything.