VoosteQ Model N Channel

[Igro]

I have Model N and Acustica Gold. Model N is great for it's price and light on resources but I definitely wouldn't choose it over Gold when I reach for any of my Neve plugins. The one thing Gold has that N channel doesn't have is dimension to it's sound. Model N sounds good but also flat imo.

Flat souding EQ. That's something new.

Sounds strange I know but that is the only way I can describe it. I think the difference I hear isn't the eq itself so much as the engine behind it or whatever makes one eq sound any different an another.

That's transistors then. I thought VoosteQ was good at this, but then I never tried the Gold. And probably won't after the horror CPU load stories.

[El°HYM]

Whats often mentioned as Dimension in sound, is usually slight variation of the stereo field, or just running the device in dual mono.

[Danilo Villanova]

I have Model N and Acustica Gold. Model N is great for it's price and light on resources but I definitely wouldn't choose it over Gold when I reach for any of my Neve plugins. The one thing Gold has that N channel doesn't have is dimension to it's sound. Model N sounds good but also flat imo.

Flat souding EQ. That's something new.

Sounds strange I know but that is the only way I can describe it. I think the difference I hear isn't the eq itself so much as the engine behind it or whatever makes one eq sound any different than another.

I think this is probable the sampled phase response from AA plugins. If you use an eq with "natural" or "analog" phase plus a saturation afterwards you should get pretty close to what an AA plugin does.

[dblock]

I have Model N and Acustica Gold. Model N is great for it's price and light on resources but I definitely wouldn't choose it over Gold when I reach for any of my Neve plugins. The one thing Gold has that N channel doesn't have is dimension to it's sound. Model N sounds good but also flat imo.

Flat souding EQ. That's something new.

Sounds strange I know but that is the only way I can describe it. I think the difference I hear isn't the eq itself so much as the engine behind it or whatever makes one eq sound any different than another.

I think this is probable the sampled phase response from AA plugins. If you use an eq with "natural" or "analog" phase plus a saturation afterwards you should get pretty close to what an AA plugin does.

You may very well be right. That said, as a composer and since I own both of those plugins anyway, it makes sense for me to just grab the best sounding to my ears for whatever technical reason there may be and just move on to get music done. I just offered my take on which is better sounding (to me) since I own both.

[SiliconDeath]

Whats often mentioned as Dimension in sound, is usually slight variation of the stereo field, or just running the device in dual mono.

I think one other thing that's possible is how different EQs have different phase, even if the EQ curves look similar in plugin doctor

other thing is transient response, maybe related to code/dsp or whatever, but different EQ plugins handle transients different I think.

[El°HYM]

Sure phase is another huge factor. Just tried to give a simple hack to achieve 'better' or more desired results, which routing would be. Slight variations on each channel are also phase related. I like this channel strip quite a lot to be honest, cant say much about the Acustica though.

[MattCable]

I’m interested in this plugin. Seems UAD’s Neve is not native yet. I have the Analog Obsession Brit Pre, but alone didn’t do too much for me, and then I hear mixed things about the Lindell. I have the Softube British Class A, but need to dive in more since it didn’t initially wow me.

Anyone still using this now? Has it aged well? Sometimes people say it’s “way too fake analog” and then others say it sounds flat or doesn’t get as hot as a real neve when pushed. I don’t care about realism, just a good plugin that does what it does well (or really, better than the rest).

[AGIGA]

I’m interested in this plugin. Seems UAD’s Neve is not native yet. I have the Analog Obsession Brit Pre, but alone didn’t do too much for me, and then I hear mixed things about the Lindell. I have the Softube British Class A, but need to dive in more since it didn’t initially wow me.

Anyone still using this now? Has it aged well? Sometimes people say it’s “way too fake analog” and then others say it sounds flat or doesn’t get as hot as a real neve when pushed. I don’t care about realism, just a good plugin that does what it does well (or really, better than the rest).

If you have Softube British Class A stick with it. Use it on lots of mixes before you think about wasting money on basically the same stuff. There won't be a lot (if any) plugins which will "wow" you. Combine it with other EQs, Comps and/or Saturators in your plugin chain if it doesn't produce the results you want by itself.

[El°HYM]

I’m interested in this plugin. Seems UAD’s Neve is not native yet. I have the Analog Obsession Brit Pre, but alone didn’t do too much for me, and then I hear mixed things about the Lindell. I have the Softube British Class A, but need to dive in more since it didn’t initially wow me.

Anyone still using this now? Has it aged well? Sometimes people say it’s “way too fake analog” and then others say it sounds flat or doesn’t get as hot as a real neve when pushed. I don’t care about realism, just a good plugin that does what it does well (or really, better than the rest).

Its still a great channel strip and does have a flavor of its own. Bought it for like 9 Bucks on Sale some time ago, so that would be even cheaper than most Plugin Alliance stuff. The Softube should be good too, so maybe compare those on different material before buying.

[heyheycnv]

I’m interested in this plugin. Seems UAD’s Neve is not native yet. I have the Analog Obsession Brit Pre, but alone didn’t do too much for me, and then I hear mixed things about the Lindell. I have the Softube British Class A, but need to dive in more since it didn’t initially wow me.

Anyone still using this now? Has it aged well? Sometimes people say it’s “way too fake analog” and then others say it sounds flat or doesn’t get as hot as a real neve when pushed. I don’t care about realism, just a good plugin that does what it does well (or really, better than the rest).

Ive had it for a couple of years. I don't think it does anything special to the sound. It sounds muddy and blobby. It's not adding that mojo you can get with new plugins released in the past year. I never use it.

[MattCable]

I’m interested in this plugin. Seems UAD’s Neve is not native yet. I have the Analog Obsession Brit Pre, but alone didn’t do too much for me, and then I hear mixed things about the Lindell. I have the Softube British Class A, but need to dive in more since it didn’t initially wow me.

Anyone still using this now? Has it aged well? Sometimes people say it’s “way too fake analog” and then others say it sounds flat or doesn’t get as hot as a real neve when pushed. I don’t care about realism, just a good plugin that does what it does well (or really, better than the rest).

If you have Softube British Class A stick with it. Use it on lots of mixes before you think about wasting money on basically the same stuff. There won't be a lot (if any) plugins which will "wow" you. Combine it with other EQs, Comps and/or Saturators in your plugin chain if it doesn't produce the results you want by itself.

Soldi advice and I would be wise just demo lol. It’s been a week of reading more than mixing, so here we are.

But, you got me thinking, what plugins have wowed me, and I’ve kept using? Instruments: the Gforce OB-E oberheim and Softube Juno. Effects: free lofi oddity for bit crushing and cassette tape, Arturia Mellon-fi (another wow and flutter plus drive), the free UAD 610 preamp (probably kinda what set me off on this train of finding simple things that can “flavor” the sound), Pultec eq (both the free analog obsession and the UAD just sound way better than what I was doing before), ableton multiband compressor for bass guitar (maybe not special, idk, but first one I used and I realize I was missing out), UAD Tape Ampex on the master instantly sounded good.

But yeah, I may now be going down rabbit holes because I did acquire a bunch of amp emulations and done as you say, I was making my own chains with Ableton pedal, stock amp (also the free Nueral Amp), stock saturator, The Glue compressor, stock eq, doing layers and I could get vocals shredded and any synth to sound like a guitar. Now that I’ve tried other amp emulators, I’m realizing “oh, I basically was alterdy getting the sound I wanted. These new amps really aren’t making anything any simpler or better”.

I’m pretty grounded I think. It’s a mixed bag, some things really do instantly click for the sound you’re going for, especially if you had a gap in that spot, but no need to have dozens of everything. Channel strips usefulness seems to be hotly contested and I believe probably with good reason for most users.

[MattCable]

I’m interested in this plugin. Seems UAD’s Neve is not native yet. I have the Analog Obsession Brit Pre, but alone didn’t do too much for me, and then I hear mixed things about the Lindell. I have the Softube British Class A, but need to dive in more since it didn’t initially wow me.

Anyone still using this now? Has it aged well? Sometimes people say it’s “way too fake analog” and then others say it sounds flat or doesn’t get as hot as a real neve when pushed. I don’t care about realism, just a good plugin that does what it does well (or really, better than the rest).

Ive had it for a couple of years. I don't think it does anything special to the sound. It sounds muddy and blobby. It's not adding that mojo you can get with new plugins released in the past year. I never use it.

Useful to hear. If I do enjoy the sound, sounds like it’s not an every channel device. Anything new that you loved? I just got back into production 6 months ago after a lot of years off.

[bmanic]

I still use it when I remember that I have it. It's got a completely unique sound signature and a lot of flexibility in how the harmonics are created. It's a very deep plugin and can go from muddy/congested to clear and bright, all depending on how you drive it, in what order you have the modules and how you set it up.

[heyheycnv]

Useful to hear. If I do enjoy the sound, sounds like it’s not an every channel device. Anything new that you loved? I just got back into production 6 months ago after a lot of years off.

Ive never worked on a Neve so I cant say what it's supposed to sound like/bring exactly. I only have emus. From those I'd pick the Lindell 80. The bottom end on the Voost when pushed seems like a blanket is being draped on the sound. Maybe that's what people mean when using terms like "gooey thickness" with it. The Lindell 80 sounds tighter in the lows and less harsh in the highs. Voost can still give you an interesting or cool sound but its not what I go to. My opinion.

For vintage vibeness I go to ones from Neold, Korneff, Lindell, Fuse, PSP, Klanghelm, Pulsar Modular, Relab, Felt, UAD. Some are 10X (or more) the price of the Voost but thats how it goes.

[AGIGA]

I’m interested in this plugin. Seems UAD’s Neve is not native yet. I have the Analog Obsession Brit Pre, but alone didn’t do too much for me, and then I hear mixed things about the Lindell. I have the Softube British Class A, but need to dive in more since it didn’t initially wow me.

Anyone still using this now? Has it aged well? Sometimes people say it’s “way too fake analog” and then others say it sounds flat or doesn’t get as hot as a real neve when pushed. I don’t care about realism, just a good plugin that does what it does well (or really, better than the rest).

If you have Softube British Class A stick with it. Use it on lots of mixes before you think about wasting money on basically the same stuff. There won't be a lot (if any) plugins which will "wow" you. Combine it with other EQs, Comps and/or Saturators in your plugin chain if it doesn't produce the results you want by itself.

Soldi advice and I would be wise just demo lol. It’s been a week of reading more than mixing, so here we are.

But, you got me thinking, what plugins have wowed me, and I’ve kept using? Instruments: the Gforce OB-E oberheim and Softube Juno. Effects: free lofi oddity for bit crushing and cassette tape, Arturia Mellon-fi (another wow and flutter plus drive), the free UAD 610 preamp (probably kinda what set me off on this train of finding simple things that can “flavor” the sound), Pultec eq (both the free analog obsession and the UAD just sound way better than what I was doing before), ableton multiband compressor for bass guitar (maybe not special, idk, but first one I used and I realize I was missing out), UAD Tape Ampex on the master instantly sounded good.

But yeah, I may now be going down rabbit holes because I did acquire a bunch of amp emulations and done as you say, I was making my own chains with Ableton pedal, stock amp (also the free Nueral Amp), stock saturator, The Glue compressor, stock eq, doing layers and I could get vocals shredded and any synth to sound like a guitar. Now that I’ve tried other amp emulators, I’m realizing “oh, I basically was alterdy getting the sound I wanted. These new amps really aren’t making anything any simpler or better”.

I’m pretty grounded I think. It’s a mixed bag, some things really do instantly click for the sound you’re going for, especially if you had a gap in that spot, but no need to have dozens of everything. Channel strips usefulness seems to be hotly contested and I believe probably with good reason for most users.

Yes, demo every plugin before you think about buying it and compare it to the stuff you've already got. This will save you lots of money.

You made me think about which plugins I use the most for getting some "Analog vibe":
-bx_console SSL 4000 E (EQ into compression + a good amount of "THD" saturation) - great for guitars and drums
-Kazrog True Iron (Transformer emulation - everything that needs some saturation in the lower midrange)
-Wave Arts Tube Saturator Vintage (with the FAT switch engaged - amazing on guitars and it's also free)
- Softube Tape (mostly in "B" mode on the Stereo Bus)
-bx_Townhouse (SSL Type bus compressor which has a sound i really enjoy)
-Waves RBass (if a Bass, Kick or really anything needs some beef in the low end)
-TDR SlickEQ Mastering (Great EQ and it features low frequency and high frequency exciters which sound great)
-Ik Multimedia EQ81 (Neve 1081 EQ and pre amp - great on vocals)