Airwindows Hull2: Free Mac/Windows/Linux/Pi AU/VST/Rack

[kidslow]

I guess this ^^^ guy has never heard of an airgapped system.

Nope, never heard of that! It’s amazing what 35 years in the IT business doesn’t teach you! I feel so foolish right now!

Well then why in the world would you make the comment you made except for failed hyperbole? One could keep an old Windows 98 box secure with an airgap.

And I was just hoping you'd call me on it. First foray with Linux was in 1993 on a release called MCC Interim. I believe it was around 0.98 kernel, downloaded over dialup and written to a series of 3.5" floppies, something like 5 of them. Found it from a minix BBS. It was not usable, but I got by on the command line just fine with tcsh and screen for multitasking. It has gotten more usable, but MacOS is heads and tails better. I still love Linux, but don't bring a knife to a gun fight my man.

[jinxtigr]

Well, one thing about it: while I take pains to release signed M* binaries, that is by definition interacting with Apple and there's no chance I'll be signing binaries on an OS they've obsoleted. I'll still be using it and releasing software for it as I do for PPC: that's different. So with Apple, to be on the REALLY secure walled-garden checked-by-Apple system that will continue to be pretty modern.

On the other hand I'll also be having my six-way Github repository: retro AU, retro VST2, signed AU, signed VST2, Windows VST2, Linux VST2. The Linux gets compiled on air-gapped virtual PC and on Raspberry Pi, and the signed AU requires more changes from the retro AU than the VST does but both have a page full of changes to make.

So in a pinch if you seriously needed something it's MIT licensed: learn to code the new format and port it yourself.

Should you not be only selecting developers who are providing open source code, rather than only selecting developers who're ready to sign on with a format that has, at one point, prohibited support of legacy, working systems on the previous format?

[audiojunkie]

I guess this ^^^ guy has never heard of an airgapped system.

Nope, never heard of that! It’s amazing what 35 years in the IT business doesn’t teach you! I feel so foolish right now!

Well then why in the world would you make the comment you made except for failed hyperbole? One could keep an old Windows 98 box secure with an airgap.

And I was just hoping you'd call me on it. First foray with Linux was in 1993 on a release called MCC Interim. I believe it was around 0.98 kernel, downloaded over dialup and written to a series of 3.5" floppies, something like 5 of them. Found it from a minix BBS. It was not usable, but I got by on the command line just fine with tcsh and screen for multitasking. It has gotten more usable, but MacOS is heads and tails better. I still love Linux, but don't bring a knife to a gun fight my man.

Hey! That’s cool! It sounds like we actually got into Linux about the same time then. I used to run a BBS—Hardcopy. To this day, I still miss the door Tradewars 2002. I got my first jobs working freelance, because no one else around me knew computers, and everyone was wanting and needing help. Back then, IT’s future was very bright. I used to work at Prodigy—before the internet, and I’ve been in IT ever since. I truly like Linux. I know it’s not for everyone, but it has some truly valid strengths that match my personality and ideology. All three OSes have different strengths and weaknesses, and cater to differing personalities and ideologies. I’ve mentioned some of the things I dislike about Apple previously, and in past threads. Under the hood, MacOS is very Unix-like. There are good technologies built into it. CoreAudio may well be the best audio server of all three of the main platforms. But MacOS has its weaknesses as well (just like all other OSes). Likewise, Linux has its weaknesses. But it also has its strengths—strengths that a lot of people don’t know or understand. When people slag off Linux, I get defensive—which started this whole thing, even before your comments. I don’t like MacOS, but I respect its strengths. Likewise, too many people don’t know or understand the strengths of Linux—they don’t understand that Linux is a viable, legitimate system that nowadays is just as valid and easy for audio work as MacOS or Windows. I want to change that false perception and misunderstanding. That’s why I defend Linux. People can like MacOS or Windows or BSD or whatever—it’s OK. I just want them to stop spreading misinformation about Linux.

[mothra]

Should you not be only selecting developers who are providing open source code, rather than only selecting developers who're ready to sign on with a format that has, at one point, prohibited support of legacy, working systems on the previous format?

I'd guess most 'professional' audio folks don't care whether or not the source code is available, they've got jobs to do and projects to complete. If the tools work in their environment and get the job done, who cares whether Joe blow across the street can go fork his own version or not? If the developer decides to deprecate an outdated SDK, as long as the updated tools still work, most people will go about their business and not care about the politics of audio software.

[glokraw]

I'd guess most 'professional' audio folks don't care whether or not the source code is available, they've got jobs to do and projects to complete.

Some percentage of them don't care if they, or the people involved in their project, are using pirated software, or stolen gear bought from fences. But I think your statement holds true in cases where honest people are concerned. When music makers do well, their music benefits a lot of people, almost none of whom have a clue about the process, tools, or hours of practice, education and studio work that were needed to make some good music.
Cheers