KVR Audio

trusampler · Post by **trusampler** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:42 pm

Anytime I upgrade to a new Kontakt version. I always Batch Resave the libraries.
Batch resave has a much faster response time now. Once that’s done, your libraries should load much much faster. Obviously nvme / m.2 drives will make for the best experience.

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:57 pm

trusampler wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:42 pm Anytime I upgrade to a new Kontakt version. I always Batch Resave the libraries.
Batch resave has a much faster response time now. Once that’s done, your libraries should load much much faster. Obviously nvme / m.2 drives will make for the best experience.

This, although in my experience Kontakt can't make use of extra NVMe speeds over SSD.

The other thing if you have SSDs is to reduce the preload buffers to minimum or near minimum, that speeds up loading a fair bit. Options / Memory.

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:29 pm

trusampler wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:42 pm Anytime I upgrade to a new Kontakt version. I always Batch Resave the libraries.
Batch resave has a much faster response time now. Once that’s done, your libraries should load much much faster.

Is the "how to" process for batch saving in the manual or an NI video?
I found an older instruction on this in the NI library, has the process changed with K8?
Thanks
Cheers
-B

BJ · Post by BJ » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:55 pm

BERFAB wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:09 pm I see a few people here have reported faster library load times. For the standard "Play" and smaller libraries, I see about the same. But some of these libraries are so huge--50 to 75 gigs--they take forever. Lores, Fables, Kithara and Sunburst Acoustic all don't even indicate that they're loading at first. And then, once they do, I go make a cup of tea and hopefully it's loaded when I get back.
Running in the latest Cubase, without problems for any of my other 3rd party plugs. Is there something in the Options page that I need to check off to get the max performance?

Cheers
-B

Are your libraries stored on SSD’s? That makes a huge impact on loading times.

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:12 am

BJ wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:55 pm
Are your libraries stored on SSD’s? That makes a huge impact on loading times.

No. It's admittedly an older system that was custom built for me. Rarely crashes and has about 9 tb of drive space built in.
Would external SSD drives (USB) be any better?

BJ · Post by BJ » Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:37 am

BERFAB wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:12 am
BJ wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:55 pm
Are your libraries stored on SSD’s? That makes a huge impact on loading times.
No. It's admittedly an older system that was custom built for me. Rarely crashes and has about 9 tb of drive space built in.
Would external SSD drives (USB) be any better?

I have an older system too that’s still going strong. Do you have usb3 ports? I got 2 2tb Samsung T7 Shield portable usb SSD’s last year, put all the audio data on there and it was insane how much the loading speeds increased. If you do get portable ssd’s make sure they always have the same fixed drive letter and are on at all time (no power savings).

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:43 pm

BJ wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:37 am
I have an older system too that’s still going strong. Do you have usb3 ports? I got 2 2tb Samsung T7 Shield portable usb SSD’s last year, put all the audio data on there and it was insane how much the loading speeds increased. If you do get portable ssd’s make sure they always have the same fixed drive letter and are on at all time (no power savings).

Thanks. I will follow up on that.

Cheers
-B

Choikdoi · Post by **Choikdoi** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:50 am

Does anyone have Kontakt 8 full or player version and the Progressive Trance Leap expansion and would do a quick functionality test? If so, please check in the 'Edit' tab (top right) and then the 'Sound' tab (middle left) and let me know if the 'Reso' knob behaves correctly?

Olnium · Post by **Olnium** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:10 pm

Choikdoi wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:50 am Does anyone have Kontakt 8 full or player version and the Progressive Trance Leap expansion and would do a quick functionality test? If so, please check in the 'Edit' tab (top right) and then the 'Sound' tab (middle left) and let me know if the 'Reso' knob behaves correctly?

Hey, mate. I just checked, and no, it doesn't behave correctly. The Reso knob seems to be connected to the "Selected Sample" parameter, according to the container in Bitwig. Also, the Cutoff knob seems to be connected to the "Play Mode" parameter. Is that what you're seeing?

Choikdoi · Post by **Choikdoi** » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:31 am

Olnium wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:10 pm
Choikdoi wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:50 am Does anyone have Kontakt 8 full or player version and the Progressive Trance Leap expansion and would do a quick functionality test? If so, please check in the 'Edit' tab (top right) and then the 'Sound' tab (middle left) and let me know if the 'Reso' knob behaves correctly?
Hey, mate. I just checked, and no, it doesn't behave correctly. The Reso knob seems to be connected to the "Selected Sample" parameter, according to the container in Bitwig. Also, the Cutoff knob seems to be connected to the "Play Mode" parameter. Is that what you're seeing?

Hey, thanks for clarifying that! Yeah, that was what I was seeing. Although, I hadn't yet noticed the Cutoff knob issue because it only happens at the 50% value. Just wanted to check because it's taking forever with NI support and they haven't even acknowledged an issue with it yet. I'll update them. Cheers mate.

kvotchin · Post by **kvotchin** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:01 am

noiseboyuk wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:57 pmin my experience Kontakt can't make use of extra NVMe speeds over SSD.

Wow, seriously? I’m inclined to believe you, but are there any tests that demonstrate this, or official info, anything like that?

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:00 am

Kontakt 8 still sucks so hard being so slow to load. this is just bad.... i thought it gets really faster, i just compared it with Kontakt 5. guess Kontakt 9 will be 1 sec faster lol.

adding more and more stuff to Kontakt and making it such a pain to load, great progress...

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:16 am

trusampler wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:42 pm Anytime I upgrade to a new Kontakt version. I always Batch Resave the libraries.
Batch resave has a much faster response time now. Once that’s done, your libraries should load much much faster. Obviously nvme / m.2 drives will make for the best experience.

This is overkill, you don't need to do this on every Kontakt update. Only once is sufficient.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:17 am

kvotchin wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:01 am
noiseboyuk wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:57 pmin my experience Kontakt can't make use of extra NVMe speeds over SSD.
Wow, seriously? I’m inclined to believe you, but are there any tests that demonstrate this, or official info, anything like that?

Kontakt's disk streaming code is from 20 years ago, it was optimized for spinning rust, not SSDs.

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:14 am

My NVME and m2 drives load way faster than SSD. The problem with plugin loading and large library loading is related to the database (I was told by NI). Kontakt will basically hang, under some circumstances, and then it will kick in and load very fast.

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