Now, with that in mind, go back and read what I originally wrote that you jumped in to counter.jamcat wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 5:59 pm So yes, Arturia’s model is a hybrid convolution model, confirmed on Gearspace by none other than Martin from Arturia.
What’s your go-to plate reverb for snare ?
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I didn’t counter what you wrote, (unless you were trying to use that quote to dispute it is a convolution hybrid.) I took it as confirmation that it is. However, Martin’s post and the use of convolution both seem to dispel any notion that Arturia’s plate is based on physically modeled wave propagation and the KPT equation paper from Physical Audio.
Also, it seems we already had this identical debate about Valhalla Plate 15 months ago in this very thread, with the same results as this latest rehash.
Also, it seems we already had this identical debate about Valhalla Plate 15 months ago in this very thread, with the same results as this latest rehash.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- 354 posts since 18 May, 2020
Let's do it again in 15 months fellas, yeah?
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- 25010 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Look who's wrong again...jamcat wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 5:15 pm Arturia’s plate is a convolution hybrid, not a physical model. So, no, it’s not based on the 2019 plate physical modeling research paper ICA2016-559, which was authored by the developers at Physical Audio.
It's indeed not based on that plate research paper, but just because because the DSP-programmer who did the Rev-Plate 140 actually published his own thesis on plate modelling.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kevin-ArcasKevin Arcas
PhD - Engineer at Arturia- Senior Researcher
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On the DSP department my work is focused on developping new algorithms for sound generation and transformation for virtual synthesizers and audio effects. Sometimes that concerns Arturia designs as Pigments synth and sometimes the objective is the emulation of legendary vintage hardware as Rev-Plate 140 (physical modeling of a plate reverb) or Chorus DimensionD (virtual analog).
Yes, it uses convolution, but only because the full model he developed would be too CPU heavy, so they found a way to come up with some kind of hybrid that they say is the next best thing after the model which he developed first and which they have fully working in-house. The convolution is based on their own model rather than being some IRs they got from a real plate.
You really ought consider to stop talking out of your arse one of these days. If you don't know enough about something just keeping your mouth shut is your best option. No amount of silence can make you ever look as pathetically wannabe-knowledgeable as your posts regularly do.
