FL 5 SUXXXXXX

[Hink]

Not to speak out of turn, but Gol is unconvinced by Freeze's usefulness. I find freeze useful, but he's correct that it IS really just a macro. Who knows, though.

Greg

If I remember correctly Gol took an informal poll regarding freeze in FLS, and decided against it based on the responses. Which is something I didn't get...people have been clamoring for freeze in FLS and with an opportunity to get it done, the general response was very lackluster.

if I'm not mistaken, freeze must refreeze everytime you open the project, this goes by a track by track basis and takes the same time it takes to render, so it can be very time consuming...I think this was one of gols issues (atleast that's how it appeared to me). I know that AA uses lock on fx and projects that have many effects locked take a long time to open. It's easier to save a working copy and a revert copy and apply the effects to the working copy IMHO. Then you can play leap frog with your projects.

[Lunch Money]

There's no reason to refreeze each time in most hosts. Its usefulness would be limited only by ImageLine's implementation.

Still, freeze doesn't do anything that a render wouldn't do as well or better. It's just more convenient in certain situations.

I'm not a Fruity guy, though, so that'll be the end of my speaking out of turn.

[Igor 4000]

Still, freeze doesn't do anything that a render wouldn't do as well or better. It's just more convenient in certain situations.

I happen to agree with you, but I think that even a simple macro to automate rendering and "unrendering" would be welcomed. I think that's what Gol was leaning towards, but the general response from FL users here turned him off the entire process.

[superddman]

"Assign Free Mixer Track" is great, beats looking trough all the mixer strips.

I agree that Automation Envelopes can be used to Automate any parameter. However, It would be cool if you could just drag the Automation envelope from the Audio Clip section to the Pattern Section. That would make it so much better.

I know that bouncing does the same thing as freezing. However, there is one main advantage of freezing. That is, you can quickly unfreeze a part when you want to go back and edit. You can't do that when bouncing.

[869]

More plugins? for what? akai emulator? WTF? you already could make all that on the other FL´s! Audio clips that automate pattern sequences? WTF is this?!? What were doing Fl developers all this time? Eating donuts? Making new plugins for what? upgrade the basic tools! pattern playlist needs do be zoomed height and to write pattern automations on pattern list not on audio playlist!!
f**k FL 5 , this is getting worse...
and FL 5 haves a bug with Xi samples , prompts me each time Im trying to put them on FL.

LoL man, but you're talkin all the way through sh*, the new automation clips are great and very usefull!

I only know of a few things in fruity that hasn't gotten better yet that's:

1. the playlist mode isn't handy enough yet a little more flexibilities on curtain things would be great.
2. the mixer should provide a "none" for the outputs like for the INs In my point of view.
3. the stepsequencer could need some rather visual but also practical changes.
4. the automation windows ain't that cool yet, I'd like to layer my automations over another to see them all transparently over each other, would love the same for all hosts providing automation, I think DP does this, I think it's a must when automating!
5. Some things in the overall gui ain't that cool either but the look and feel make one "wanna make music!"

to name a few and I ain't going into detail here now I just think you are exaggerating absolutely!

well sure there are some more things that could be better but I think it's becomming a better and better application. Would love to talk to dev's once!

[JMC]

It seems like with every update comes the unavoidable bug fix update.

So what's the problem with that ? We betatest with about 35 betatesters & then do a semi-public betatest with bunch of our more dedicated users. We don't have the resources to test every sytem/config of the 60.000 people in our database so it's inevitable bugs come out that the betatesters didn't notice.

We usually release the x.01 release 2 weeks after the initial release. I don't see anything else with other & bigger products like Photoshop, Premiere, Max or Delphi (the only ones I use/update). The only difference is that I had to pay for each of these (€1000 for Max, $650 for Photoshop CS, €125 for Premiere & €575 for Delphi [the last two I paid this afternoon]).

btw. If you wanna be sure just do like most of of the people that use their software do and ignore initial updates until the x.0.1 release.

I no longer have the time nore the money to waste on this mediocre excuse for a sequencer.

Euh ?!?! How much did you waste exactly on this update ?

Have a nice day.

See ya,

jmc (FL Studio)

[Vonbrucken]

jmc and gol i like all your work for image line
but when fl will be set as slave mode cause you ARE really near from the best software now .....
best regards
von.

[Vonbrucken]

one more thing give every artists a chance cause every one who does fl skins there simply rocks

[thefuzmixman]

if everything was perfect in this release, then what could you look forward to later?!? i like the anticipation of it all.

[Architect]

Okay so you think FL Studio sucks, who the f**k cares lol. That's not stopping me from using it, because I have found the utility in the software for what I need. Lifetime free updates you can't go wrong, the software is very inexpensive compared to other software and can compete in terms of sound quality and creativity. For those people who know what they're doing in FL studio I've heard great music from them (isn't that the goal).

Opinions are like assholes everybody's got one, but I still haven't read about what truly makes FL Studio suck, I've only heard complaints about plugins and bug fixes, automation, mixer, etc. I mean nothing substantial that will actually prevent you from making good music. Bugs are in all software period. The plugins are good, sure if you want more go buy them, your getting a fuckin sequence software studio for under $200 you get what you pay for! Kids these days...

[verstaerker]

i would like to see a mute button on the mixer

[Shane Sanders]

I really liking FL so far. I have a few issues with my machine with all my hosts, though. Sometimes under heavy CPU load the playback will get all grainy and slow down. I have to reboot to get things back to normal. I think it has something to do with my video drivers but I've never been able to fix it.