KVR Audio

Jaeson Merrill · Post by **Jaeson Merrill** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:18 pm

Lunch Money wrote:
Regarding the V-Amp, that's another example of taste-- some people actually prefer many of the models to the PodXT's, though I haven't heard of any of them being compared to the J-Station.

If I got something that cost more than $40, I would certainly go for the J-Station because it also has MIDI controller knobs and digital output.

Greg

Some say the clean models of v-amp2 are much better than podxt..

I own both and cant really see a huge difference between sounds, its more that podxt is

1.made out of metal

2.has more options for sounds.

as far as quality though, perhaps a tiny difference.
not much, in itself, to justify a price 4 times higher (with model packs) .. especially with the fx, which arent that great in either unit, for the price.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:27 pm

Though it's an obvious thing to comment on, I find it interesting just how many things actually "make" a guitar sound. Certainly your pickups are a huge factor, but also small things like the condition of your finger callouses affect tone. Mine are about the thickness of a quarter right now and it makes for a more percussive fretting hand. Odd, eh?

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:32 pm

Not to mention the type of pick you use! I use the thickest I've ever seen combined with heavy strings (not quite as heavy as Jens though).. I don't sound like me otherwise!

darcyb62 · Post by **darcyb62** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:33 pm

Shane and Platinumears...

Good points on those additional factors that effect sound. There is one other piece that until recently didn't really think much of and that's the actual cable. I had been having some problems getting the sound I wanted as I was starting to hear some very unwanted noise as I started to crank the gain up. It turned out to be a problem with the cable I was using. I never really experienced this until I started playing around with amp sims.

With respect to picks, I look for the stiffest but thinnest pick. Obviously there is a balance to work towards. With repect to strings, I have each of my guitars set up a bit differently. I have 9-42s on one, 10-60s on another, and 12-50s on yet another... It really depends on what I'm doing...

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:51 pm

Yes, there are a million factors in tone.

I love being a guitarist.

Jens - It's interesting to me that you are only satisfied with your bass tone if it's a mic'd cab. Also, it's very consistent with my belief that you have very different and particular taste in tones. Why do I say that? Unlike guitar, direct-injection of a bass is actually considered a desirable tone. Every time I read an interview of a band, engineer, or producer, they almost invariably say that they run the bass direct into their desk, sometimes with a DI box of some sort in-between but not always.

Me, I haven't found a good bass tone at all yet EITHER way. I hate my bass sound so far. The GT-2 (or GDI21 when it comes out) does a great-sounding SVT, though, which I'm looking forward to.

Greg

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:52 pm

Lunch Money wrote: Every time I read an interview of a band, engineer, or producer, they almost invariably say that they run the bass direct into their desk, sometimes with a DI box of some sort in-between but not always.

For live sound you are right: the only bassist I ever came across who insisted I mic his cab was using an old valve rig and had a sound almost as distorted as the guitarist.. and he was right in this case as the speaker was acting as a lowpass filter to mellow the highs (just like a guitar amp). Usually I would take a DI out from the amp (if it was a good one and the bassist new how to use it) or tap off a DI straight from the bass (if it wasn't or he didn't

)

In the studio however, it is very common to mic the bass amp and blend it with the DI to taste.. I have even seen magazine tutorials on how to match the phase of the two signals in this situation, so it can't be that unusual!

A good bass amp can add a real solid low end btw, and the sound is usually much more interesting and less clinical with a little "air" in it..

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:13 pm

I didn't mean to imply (and I realize that I did) that it was bizarre or anything--

Just that it's highly common to D.I. a bass signal in the studio environment. I'm not enough of an expert to know from personal experience-- just going by what I've read in heaps of interviews.

Or in other words-- I found it interesting that Jens can at least 'tolerate' a simulated amp tone for his guitar but not for his bass, whereas most people would (and do) find the opposite. They can't take a simulated guitar, but they'll D.I. a bass until the cows come home, and do it professionally, too!

Greg

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:17 pm

Yeah it would more normally be the other way round..

.. Jens you're a freak!

-SPYRO- · Post by **-SPYRO-** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:52 am

So, after 6 pages you guys still talking the same s**t? now GO AND MAKE SOME MUSIC WITH THE DAM PLUG!

Anyone else having problems with Cortex on FL studio?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:56 am

Writing on the forum is our way of avoiding crippling creative blocks.

Not that being here helps them, but that being here helps us forget that we're not being productive and gives us an excuse for it.

Greg

-SPYRO- · Post by **-SPYRO-** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:30 am

jeffn1 · Post by **jeffn1** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:57 pm

Is the newest version still incompatible with Sonar?

jeffn1

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:08 pm

Lunch Money wrote: Just that it's highly common to D.I. a bass signal in the studio environment. I'm not enough of an expert to know from personal experience-- just going by what I've read in heaps of interviews.

The other (quite common) way to go is to record both DI and miced cab and blend to taste.

Line6 BassPOD/XT/Pro etc allow you to do this -- record both DI and amp/cab simulation and blend. There is a quality that comes only from a cab and added to the clarity and wide frequency range of the DI it gives me just the sound I like.

Eg

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:34 pm

jens wrote: (which means that rhythm guitar and compression usually don't go too well together)

Is it that why 99% of funk/soul and pop recordings don't go well?
All of them are using mor or less compression on rhythm guitars.

jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:06 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:
jens wrote: (which means that rhythm guitar and compression usually don't go too well together)
Is it that why 99% of funk/soul and pop recordings don't go well?
All of them are using mor or less compression on rhythm guitars.

I'm not sure - I usually don't listen to any funk/soul records...

but anyway: I think the best rhythm-guitar work you usually find on jazz-records where the guitar is hardly compressed

CORTEX: Guitar Amp that really ROCKS!