KVR Audio

allofdrab · Post by **allofdrab** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:10 pm

vurt wrote:hey while were at it why do synths have guis with knobs n stuff?
surely we can just input the info in in text and have the whole thing done by the pc?

http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/ .....

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:39 pm

If you want to use your ears rather than your eyes, get rid of all the software all together and learn an instrument like a trumpet or piano or guitar.

In fact... take a scalpel and run it straight across your pupils.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:44 pm

slainte

rob

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:45 pm

platinumears wrote: The hardware paradigm is; seperate multi-track recorder and mixer. Thats what iLogic does, not Tracktion.. T lacks a mixer page exactly because it rejects the hardware paradigm completely, and just aims for the fastest easiest way to get results from a computer.

I would completely disagree - but I'm too lazy to start another argument.
IMO Tracktion is wasting space par excellence (the same goes for Cubase), but hey, if you can get along with that...

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:27 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:I would completely disagree - but I'm too lazy to start another argument.
IMO Tracktion is wasting space par excellence (the same goes for Cubase), but hey, if you can get along with that...

I suspect you just haven't understood Tracktion's interface fully.

That's ok, I don't know iLogic..

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:27 pm

Sascha:

I'm missing something... I know what you're saying about the wasted space, but T2 goes a ways to address this (and T1 also has scalable filter areas, you realize!), and with scalable interface, using dual monitors eliminates the 'problem'. To be honest with you, I've never needed more space, but to each their own.

But I'm confused about the correlation to hardware. In Tracktion, you can still move the tracks to wherever you want, and hence move their corresponding volumes and pans, too. With the ability to route to other tracks and create your own "submixes" (or simply redirect your audio) and so forth, it's easily AS configurable as Logic...! It doesn't follow a hardware model at all, and I hope you're big enough to admit it when you realize it.

Host war, host war, host war <chanting>

Greg

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:51 pm

And to think, all this fuss could be eliminated simply by using a real desk.

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:12 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:
stefancrs wrote:Sascha, you have control of a all parameters for a channel directly in the arrange window, without using the inspector. You know that!
WITHOUT using the inspector?
How would you do that?
Do you mean the channel strip below inspector? I'd call this part of it.
And apart from that, no, you don't have control about all parameters at once as they're taking up too much space once you open them all - you can't even scroll down to them, another prove of extended Steinberg lameness.

I meant under the tracks. You can show only and any parameters you find useful for that particular track there, right where you also automate them.

Sascha Franck wrote:
FWIW, I've used more than 8 inserts (and in Cubase, I've hit the limit), and I doubt I'm alone
I've been using a LOT of inserts as well (actually, Logic allows for 16, so there...), but that's not the usual thing for most people.
And it's beyond the point, too. Let's just face it, Cubase's mixer is offering close to no configuration options, working with it is a true PITA for numerous reasons - especially when you're used to the elegance of Logics mixer. And IMO that's not even debatable...

The way you put forward the pro's of logics mixer makes me think you'd probably like Podiums.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:19 pm

pHz wrote:

slainte rob

Dude, you didn't have to do it just because he said so. If all of your friends jumped off a cliff, would you? Kids these days

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:33 pm

If I could use Logic's mixer in Tracktion, ah that would be heaven

It really is a nice mixer.

Tracktion's vol/pan faders are inadequate IMO for decent mixing with a mouse. But since a lot of my mixing nowadays happens in automation, it's not such a big deal.

Sasha is saying he likes to have his tracks arranged in a certain order in the Arrange view, but likes the ability to move them to whatever position is useful during mixing. Tracktion can't do that, since it's 'mixer' in integrated with the 'Arrange' view.

I personally feel essentially the same way, but instead of wanting a software mixer, I'm getting a control surface for Tracktion and can then order the tracks however I like while keeping them in order on the mixing desk.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:38 pm

braj wrote:
pHz wrote:
slainte rob
Dude, you didn't have to do it just because he said so. If all of your friends jumped off a cliff, would you? Kids these days

erm ... let me think about that ...

slainte

rob

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:39 pm

That's not much of a cliff.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:41 pm

im only short though ...

slainte

rob

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:47 pm

Braj-- I still don't get it. You just re-arrange the tracks. I have to admit, though, part of my 'not getting it' is simply that I don't relate, which is a personal thing rather than a host weakness or strength. If I'm adjusting my guitar's level and pan, I don't really care if it's the first one or the fifth one, as long as it's labelled "Greg Rhythm Guitar 1" or whatnot.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:49 pm

superddman wrote:What's the point of mixers in software sequencers?

You guys are making this way to hard. The answer is obvious.

TO MIX YOUR SEQUENCES

I'll take "Stupid DAW question" for $500 Alex