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siclkle wahatever wrote:This is an observation I find typical of you..
Well, first off, I take that as a compliment. It's nice to be known as an impartial arbiter/prophet of truth, unpopular though it may be...

..but, for the tmi crowd, I was having one of those "hey, let's put on PHM and do the nasty" nights, which is a bit nostalgiac for me, but sounded fun...
So I'm doing my thang, layin' in the sleek moves et. al.

Miss thang was all into it (despite the fact that she was 11 when the record came out), and and I was pleasantly anticipating the old :"Oooh, it's the indro pop(as opposed to indie pop, which I prefer...)rekkid what changed my tastes...(aCTUALLY, THAT WAS BROKEN. i REVERSE ENGINEERED TO phm).


CONTEXUAL SIDEBAR FOR SLIGHTLY OLDER GUYS:\

Dude! What was up with the NIN? There were always these bands I didn't care fo, that became the :"I'm actually a nice girl, but this music will let you know my intentions, IE. your schlong, my punani/
vajaejae.

What were those records? I remeber enigma being all the rage in 89-90. Enigma and a couple of candles, possibly on you, more likely on them. (Girls being king of making it seem your idea, which means they get taken to their favorite music, but act like it was thrust upon them...nothing like a "nice" boy who will violate them. Best of both worlds, I suppose...

So, this is the innaugural list of crap you had to listren to on account of girls. (As any expierienced gamer knows,you give a little, and even achknowledge the good points of Morrisey, overlook her good-looking-emo-boy records, all of which are shite, aside from John Carraba, who kills me because he sounds like the pure unadulterad male ego, my voice when I deam, before it's had the shit kicked out of it.

Anyways, the poll is this (Please repost).

Who are the bands that you only listen to because of the girl in you life.

For extra point: Which ones did you come around to and realize they're pretty frickin good?!

P.S;., I m one of you, oh me suffering brothers.
HELP ME WITH THIS. mY GIRL IS EIN pIXIE fANATIC.
I do not get the pixies. They are less heavy then their peers, less melodic, and a virtual personaliy vaccum. I don't get it. They have okay somgs (here comes your man is a Lou Reed Riff, done as contrite pop)....

The only thing I can figure is that their lack of being exceptional is their hook...I can see it working for underacheiving teens...:"Hey, I don't have to be good, I can evwn be fat and bald! look at the pixies..."

...which is deceptive, because old franco negro had a pretty good way with a lyiric and vocal line...

...anyways. I have $45 american dollars for he who can open my eyes to ye pixies, and I'll supply the booze for the conversation...but I'm expexting exhausting detail...

Mind you, if you know someone who is simalarly baffled by the importance of Black Sabbath/Ozzy solo. I can provide a comprehensive overview of why the rawk rawks.


...but musically...

Yee. Gone long...I blame the purer passion, loosened with the beer, booze, pot and clonopin...It's a good cocktail for really caring, thoug...

Where did this start?

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oBTW.

My goal in life is to remix Raw Power and the first deadboys album


Yeah, the nutty lofi versions have a certain charm, but there are albums since that eat those alive. I find in ludicrous that if you put on "Master of puppets" after "Raw power", RP ooses simply becasue of the inferior sound.

Raw power shoud eat up and spit out MOP, If you listen to it, the sounds are there, but the mik is ass.

Same with "young loud and snotty".

I'd like to remix buzzcocks and Gen X, also. Those records should not sound less aweasome becsue of the mixes, dammit.

...now, lemme a million bucks so I can get start
ed...I also accept Money orders and paypal...

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well it's not a great album but the latest u2 cd sounds like crap...slammed to oblivion
for a band (and other bands) that has subtlety in their music the loudness factor does not suit them at all
give me any album acthung baby and before anyday over the stuff they're bringing out now

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Sickle237 wrote:Seriously crap mastering, Insanely good album:

Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness

'Through the eyes of Ruby' is one of my fav SP tracks, but this track is soooo f**king squashed up..I wish I could hear an un-ruined mix of it..

:bang:
Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you!

I was waiting for someone to point this one out... Can anything be more muddy and woofy than this f**king double CD?

I can't even play Mellon Collie in my car 'cause it makes me want to frisbee it out the window while driving. :x
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Sleek Month wrote:
siclkle wahatever wrote:This is an observation I find typical of you..
Well, first off, I take that as a compliment. It's nice to be known as an impartial arbiter/prophet of truth, unpopular though it may be...

..but, for the tmi crowd, I was having one of those "hey, let's put on PHM and do the nasty" nights, which is a bit nostalgiac for me, but sounded fun...
So I'm doing my thang, layin' in the sleek moves et. al.

Miss thang was all into it (despite the fact that she was 11 when the record came out), and and I was pleasantly anticipating the old :"Oooh, it's the indro pop(as opposed to indie pop, which I prefer...)rekkid what changed my tastes...(aCTUALLY, THAT WAS BROKEN. i REVERSE ENGINEERED TO phm).


CONTEXUAL SIDEBAR FOR SLIGHTLY OLDER GUYS:\

Dude! What was up with the NIN? There were always these bands I didn't care fo, that became the :"I'm actually a nice girl, but this music will let you know my intentions, IE. your schlong, my punani/
vajaejae.

What were those records? I remeber enigma being all the rage in 89-90. Enigma and a couple of candles, possibly on you, more likely on them. (Girls being king of making it seem your idea, which means they get taken to their favorite music, but act like it was thrust upon them...nothing like a "nice" boy who will violate them. Best of both worlds, I suppose...

So, this is the innaugural list of crap you had to listren to on account of girls. (As any expierienced gamer knows,you give a little, and even achknowledge the good points of Morrisey, overlook her good-looking-emo-boy records, all of which are shite, aside from John Carraba, who kills me because he sounds like the pure unadulterad male ego, my voice when I deam, before it's had the shit kicked out of it.

Anyways, the poll is this (Please repost).

Who are the bands that you only listen to because of the girl in you life.

For extra point: Which ones did you come around to and realize they're pretty frickin good?!

P.S;., I m one of you, oh me suffering brothers.
HELP ME WITH THIS. mY GIRL IS EIN pIXIE fANATIC.
I do not get the pixies. They are less heavy then their peers, less melodic, and a virtual personaliy vaccum. I don't get it. They have okay somgs (here comes your man is a Lou Reed Riff, done as contrite pop)....

The only thing I can figure is that their lack of being exceptional is their hook...I can see it working for underacheiving teens...:"Hey, I don't have to be good, I can evwn be fat and bald! look at the pixies..."

...which is deceptive, because old franco negro had a pretty good way with a lyiric and vocal line...

...anyways. I have $45 american dollars for he who can open my eyes to ye pixies, and I'll supply the booze for the conversation...but I'm expexting exhausting detail...

Mind you, if you know someone who is simalarly baffled by the importance of Black Sabbath/Ozzy solo. I can provide a comprehensive overview of why the rawk rawks.


...but musically...

Yee. Gone long...I blame the purer passion, loosened with the beer, booze, pot and clonopin...It's a good cocktail for really caring, thoug...

Where did this start?

-SSSSSSSSSSSsssssssssssssssssss
f**k me that's so funny - worth a bump - I'm literally rolling on the fuckin floor ovah here... :lol: :lol:

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jeffn1 wrote:I am surprised no one mentioned Rush's Vapor Trails. Maybe your not to hot on the album, regardless of the production.

jeffn1
I like Rush, but I haven't been able to listen to all of that album yet - so I don't know if its great or not - it's completely ruined and I want my money back. I got it when it was new and haven't heard it once! This was the album that opened my eyes/ears to the comprace - before hearing it I thought overcompression was only a problem for guys with golden ears...

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2 albums that come to mind that our exceptionally quiet....you always have to turn the stereo up:
NIN: pretty hate machine
White Zombie: La Sexorcisto:Devil Music Vol. 1

What gives?

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Oh hey, and don't forget Morbid Tales!

:-o

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I'm still trying to decide what I think of the production job on Leaves Turn Inside You by Unwound. Amazing album, but extremely muddy.

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if someone doesn't get the pixies, then I doubt my ability to help them understnad pretty much anything. :P
Did you ever listen to the entire album Surfer Rosa?
There is just so much more to them than here comes your man. And of course there is Frank Black's first solo album that I thought was just awsome. Can't remember what it was called.
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Weezer:Make Believe
Well it's not that great an album actually, but it's the most slammed album i've heard.

MSP:Know Your Enemy
Terrible production throughout, the sound of a band trying to be 8 years younger and failing.

REM:Around The Sun/Reveal
Both albums have this really bad shiny production, same problem as U2 really.

Just out of interest how would people rate albums from My Bloody Valentine, say the Loveless album or Velvet Underground: Andy Warhol, production wise.

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jeffn1>> I am surprised no one mentioned Rush's >>Vapor Trails. Maybe your not to hot on the album, >>regardless of the production.

deggy>>I've met one of the engineers that worked on >that album. hehe

Any insight as to what happened? I've heard the recording and find it hard to beleive it was Rush's idea?

Another vote for Raw Power from me. I read something to the effect that David Bowie had one day and one bag of cocaine to do the mix.

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beltrom wrote:I like Rush, but I haven't been able to listen to all of that album yet - so I don't know if its great or not - it's completely ruined and I want my money back. I got it when it was new and haven't heard it once! This was the album that opened my eyes/ears to the comprace - before hearing it I thought overcompression was only a problem for guys with golden ears...
Conversely, "A Farewell to Kings" is (IMHO) one of the best recorded records I've ever heard (and "Permanent Waves" is right up there, as well...)
"Time makes fools of us all. Our only comfort is that greater shall come after us." Eric Temple Bell

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My current(there's too many) please-release-a-GOOD-master candidate is Green Day's "American Idiot". Good clarity and open mix overall, but fu#*%ng slammed down. Many of the chorus parts are no longer highlights. Great songs. Boring dynamics.

Then, I refused to buy Prince's latest album. I'm sick and tired of his tracks getting screwed, so it's the first one of his I didn't want to pay for. Many tracks on it have less than wonderful distortions where the damn material was clipped.

I almost feel like calling Sterling Sound in New York (Green Day). "Are you trying to tell the people who care about sound that this is what somebody PAID YOU FOR ?!!"
Will mix for fun

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pricer wrote:Just out of interest how would people rate albums from My Bloody Valentine, say the Loveless album or Velvet Underground: Andy Warhol, production wise.
Well, of course many people think Loveless is badly-produced because "it's just a wall of guitar mush!" But of course that's part of the point.
I will say that sonically, I always thought there was too much midrange. But I still love the sound.
"Isn't Anything" would benefit from better production, though.
The Velvet Underground albums are tough to evaluate. I sort of dislike the tendancy to put Reed's voice 6 inches from your face, but other than that I don't think the technical imperfections detract from the music.

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