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- KVRAF
- 2302 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Nom..nom.. YOUR MOM
I love Parsec - hardly a "waste of space" IMHO. It's a nice additive synth and does what it does extremely well. But hey, YMMV.
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- KVRian
- 1443 posts since 1 Jun, 2008
As an avid Reason user I'm also quite disappointing with Props direction. They used to be pioneers, but since Reason 4 things have gone downhill with bad implementations, crippling limitations and flawed designs. It's still an easy program to use, but its UI/workflow is stuck in the early 00s. I'm just so used to the rack paradigm and the stability to let go.
What Props need to do:
- Rebuild Reason's UI-system from the ground up to make it faster and allow generated graphics (scopes, FFT, vectors etc.).
- Integrated fast browser and drag n drop.
- RE SKD 2 with sample import, pagination, folding
- Rack device focus (double click to make it bigger) and zoom and multitouch
support.
- New advanced combintor that's as easy and intuitive as Live's racks.
- Completely redesigned sequencer with intuitive zooming, dynamic grid/snap, ability to open multiple clips, double click support, curved automation
- Midi routing in the rack. Why has this not been implemented? Hardware gear has midi routing, pretty much all DAWs have it so why not Reason?
- New Sampler or a Kontakt RE.
- Kong - just redesign the whole thing. It's just a broken design which makes the easiest tasks a chore (output settings are linked to each pad so if you change a preset it goes back to default output = useless). The limited automation and modulation options are also a disaster for what could have been a great addition to the rack. The synth modules sound incredibly bland as well.
- REWIRE master - it could easily be implemented and would let people easily use their plugin instruments.
- Plugin support - this would work beautifully in the rack similarly to the plugin instrument device in Ableton Live, with mappable controls for automation.
What Props need to do:
- Rebuild Reason's UI-system from the ground up to make it faster and allow generated graphics (scopes, FFT, vectors etc.).
- Integrated fast browser and drag n drop.
- RE SKD 2 with sample import, pagination, folding
- Rack device focus (double click to make it bigger) and zoom and multitouch
support.
- New advanced combintor that's as easy and intuitive as Live's racks.
- Completely redesigned sequencer with intuitive zooming, dynamic grid/snap, ability to open multiple clips, double click support, curved automation
- Midi routing in the rack. Why has this not been implemented? Hardware gear has midi routing, pretty much all DAWs have it so why not Reason?
- New Sampler or a Kontakt RE.
- Kong - just redesign the whole thing. It's just a broken design which makes the easiest tasks a chore (output settings are linked to each pad so if you change a preset it goes back to default output = useless). The limited automation and modulation options are also a disaster for what could have been a great addition to the rack. The synth modules sound incredibly bland as well.
- REWIRE master - it could easily be implemented and would let people easily use their plugin instruments.
- Plugin support - this would work beautifully in the rack similarly to the plugin instrument device in Ableton Live, with mappable controls for automation.
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- KVRer
- 20 posts since 26 May, 2013
It's pretty simple, they implement something but leave out some of the main features.
Midi Implementation lacks sysex, NRPNs.... So they cut out some of the major features.
That means that anyone hoping for an Access Virus TI control RE can forget about it... Since alot of the control is done by NRPNs and Sysex...
Its just such an oversight to think all Midi needs is CCs and note numbers and velocity, and one knob on the EMI lol....
I really hope they pick up their game, because others in the industry are, and they will be left behind big time, especially now the forum is down and people will start to move on.
Midi Implementation lacks sysex, NRPNs.... So they cut out some of the major features.
That means that anyone hoping for an Access Virus TI control RE can forget about it... Since alot of the control is done by NRPNs and Sysex...
Its just such an oversight to think all Midi needs is CCs and note numbers and velocity, and one knob on the EMI lol....
I really hope they pick up their game, because others in the industry are, and they will be left behind big time, especially now the forum is down and people will start to move on.
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- KVRAF
- 3374 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
But yeah I could post any random Soundcloud page from different artists as claim them as my own. But hushhh hush I didnt say that.Reason101 wrote:And because it's free to have multiple soundcloud accounts. but shhhh I didn't say that.
As for Jeremy & Nucleus Soundlab, He's an awesome sound designer, and any of his ReFills are very worthwhile to have in your collection. I would love to collaborate with him on something down the road. That would be fun. Of course, it's finding the time that would be the problem. And if he'd be willing, of course.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2
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- KVRist
- 82 posts since 23 Nov, 2013 from United States
Yes, because that's exactly what I didv1o wrote:But yeah I could post any random Soundcloud page from different artists as claim them as my own. But hushhh hush I didnt say that.Reason101 wrote:And because it's free to have multiple soundcloud accounts. but shhhh I didn't say that.
As for Jeremy & Nucleus Soundlab, He's an awesome sound designer, and any of his ReFills are very worthwhile to have in your collection. I would love to collaborate with him on something down the road. That would be fun. Of course, it's finding the time that would be the problem. And if he'd be willing, of course.
- KVRAF
- 2302 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Nom..nom.. YOUR MOM
That's a bit hyperbole, isn't it?djhydrosonics wrote:I really hope they pick up their game, because others in the industry are, and they will be left behind big time, especially now the forum is down and people will start to move on.
I'm sure they're quite aware that they need to get a forum back, and they could spend a lifetime implementing feature requests that people want. Seems like they've been pretty successful so far; I've got faith they'll keep chugging away.
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 27 Nov, 2013 from uk
Reason is reason...not a clone of another DAW. Either use reason as it is with all its features or dont. I dont understand people trying to wish it into something else.
Pretty simple really.
Pretty simple really.
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- KVRer
- 20 posts since 26 May, 2013
Nothing wrong with wanting decent implementation of a widely accepted midi standard....
Zeebot, Your saying don't like it don't use it, fine I'm saying add it as a feature, at least add it fully.
Zeebot, Your saying don't like it don't use it, fine I'm saying add it as a feature, at least add it fully.
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- KVRist
- 66 posts since 9 Jun, 2013
exactly , some can say midi this or midi that but look what vst's do !
vst's are a joke in terms of work flow and at 99% dont even have a pattern to track option and try to use them vst's to work with your hardwares midi and let the fun end up before the start most of the time unless you have some experiment you will loose time , nerves and hairs when reason is easy and simple , almost friendly
reason is so much a modulare flexible soft that others softs are way behind and users count on the skills of the patch's .
then yes midi could be better but it's not even a year old so just be honest insted of spiting on it like a old witch remember how horrible it was with cubase or protools when it came first !
they take there time but they pick the right time because it can be cpu angry these days even if it's a bit hot with the RAM's at the moment the way I see it .
we are going to see a lot of évolutions in RAM in the next two years and cpu are on top and rising so reason is really ready for the futur I guess!
if they make 3d graphics it will change a lot even for simple things like spectral display and maybe to even work on a 3d image of the sounds , aint that cool ?!?!
also to me sdk 2 ok but what for in terms of sound making ? would be cool to know because so fare props is doing everything users ask for unless they will loose stability or things like that and maybe this is also the reason midi is this way righ now !
it is tru that they could end there reason and make a all knew soft with various new Tools but what is in reason right now does so much for the peoples that (((Know))) how to use it that it does not make senss to end the compatibility with older versions .
anyway I love reason and other daws give me nerves troubles
vst's are a joke in terms of work flow and at 99% dont even have a pattern to track option and try to use them vst's to work with your hardwares midi and let the fun end up before the start most of the time unless you have some experiment you will loose time , nerves and hairs when reason is easy and simple , almost friendly
reason is so much a modulare flexible soft that others softs are way behind and users count on the skills of the patch's .
then yes midi could be better but it's not even a year old so just be honest insted of spiting on it like a old witch remember how horrible it was with cubase or protools when it came first !
they take there time but they pick the right time because it can be cpu angry these days even if it's a bit hot with the RAM's at the moment the way I see it .
we are going to see a lot of évolutions in RAM in the next two years and cpu are on top and rising so reason is really ready for the futur I guess!
if they make 3d graphics it will change a lot even for simple things like spectral display and maybe to even work on a 3d image of the sounds , aint that cool ?!?!
also to me sdk 2 ok but what for in terms of sound making ? would be cool to know because so fare props is doing everything users ask for unless they will loose stability or things like that and maybe this is also the reason midi is this way righ now !
it is tru that they could end there reason and make a all knew soft with various new Tools but what is in reason right now does so much for the peoples that (((Know))) how to use it that it does not make senss to end the compatibility with older versions .
anyway I love reason and other daws give me nerves troubles
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- KVRer
- 20 posts since 26 May, 2013
I gathered...C+C+ wrote: anyway I love reason and other daws give me nerves troubles
Actually midi is 30 years old, I think they've had sometime to think about its implementation. If they can't even get one of the main selling points of their update right, its time to just ask why they couldn't do it?
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- KVRist
- 208 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Since there are a lot of Reason experts in this thread, I have a quick question. I usually do remixes in Live, but I wanted to do a remix in Reason just because it's fun. This being said I have all these stems from the original band, imported them but would like to select all channels in the mixer and turn down the level of all of them at once. A workaround would be to route them all to a bus, but I usually start out with things set to -6dB or so, delete the stuff I don't use and add my own stuff to it. In Live I select all the tracks, click on one track, type in -6dB and I am done. In Reason it seems I have to select each individual channel in the mixer and drag it down to -6dB which is pretty cumbersome. Am I missing something in regards how to change multiple mixer channels together without using a Bus. A bus doesn't make sense because these tracks are all different categories.
Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ken
Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ken
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- KVRist
- 66 posts since 9 Jun, 2013
yes it's tru but you can bus all your drums for exemple and then if you need you can group bus or split into multiple bus and even group and bus it into another group .kenporter wrote:Since there are a lot of Reason experts in this thread, I have a quick question. I usually do remixes in Live, but I wanted to do a remix in Reason just because it's fun. This being said I have all these stems from the original band, imported them but would like to select all channels in the mixer and turn down the level of all of them at once. A workaround would be to route them all to a bus, but I usually start out with things set to -6dB or so, delete the stuff I don't use and add my own stuff to it. In Live I select all the tracks, click on one track, type in -6dB and I am done. In Reason it seems I have to select each individual channel in the mixer and drag it down to -6dB which is pretty cumbersome. Am I missing something in regards how to change multiple mixer channels together without using a Bus. A bus doesn't make sense because these tracks are all different categories.
Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ken
but yes there is no feature to just grouping the faders , but there also is no real need for it because you can use one of the two smaller mixers to put your stuff into it and this mixer will only have one chanel line for it wich is the exact same !
at the end there is more option for groups and bus into reason but still volume grouping would be nice
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- KVRist
- 139 posts since 24 Mar, 2012
No way to do this on the mixer. However you should be able to select all the stems in the Sequencer and enter the values you need for the levels there using "Levels" in the Sequencer tool bar.kenporter wrote:Since there are a lot of Reason experts in this thread, I have a quick question. I usually do remixes in Live, but I wanted to do a remix in Reason just because it's fun. This being said I have all these stems from the original band, imported them but would like to select all channels in the mixer and turn down the level of all of them at once. A workaround would be to route them all to a bus, but I usually start out with things set to -6dB or so, delete the stuff I don't use and add my own stuff to it. In Live I select all the tracks, click on one track, type in -6dB and I am done. In Reason it seems I have to select each individual channel in the mixer and drag it down to -6dB which is pretty cumbersome. Am I missing something in regards how to change multiple mixer channels together without using a Bus. A bus doesn't make sense because these tracks are all different categories.
Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ken
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- KVRist
- 66 posts since 9 Jun, 2013
djhydrosonics wrote:I gathered...C+C+ wrote: anyway I love reason and other daws give me nerves troubles
Actually midi is 30 years old, I think they've had sometime to think about its implementation. If they can't even get one of the main selling points of their update right, its time to just ask why they couldn't do it?
first reason was a virtual rack to use to make simple stuff or digital modulare synthesis , you could rewire it to another daw (wich was like using a vst) and it was a great plus in a studio in the late 90's .
so it was in the other daw that you used midi , then they did add midi IN a long time ago but Midi OUT was not so much asked for and maybe would have been unstable because of all the modulare routing you can do in Reason and send to the midi out by cv etc...
vst's are way cool and sound real good but they dont have that maze of complex signals that is sended to all racks and stuff .
I dont ever whant to see VST's into Reason but I do whant Devs to be able to make the exact same thing into Reason wich already would make a better beast then the vst version from the various inputs and outputs signal or audio !
and if you take out the fact that midi IN was there a long time it also was there since always from the controllers signals and the sequencer .
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- KVRist
- 208 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Dude, excellent advice, thanks! I actually can't believe I didn't think of that.krucial wrote:No way to do this on the mixer. However you should be able to select all the stems in the Sequencer and enter the values you need for the levels there using "Levels" in the Sequencer tool bar.kenporter wrote:Since there are a lot of Reason experts in this thread, I have a quick question. I usually do remixes in Live, but I wanted to do a remix in Reason just because it's fun. This being said I have all these stems from the original band, imported them but would like to select all channels in the mixer and turn down the level of all of them at once. A workaround would be to route them all to a bus, but I usually start out with things set to -6dB or so, delete the stuff I don't use and add my own stuff to it. In Live I select all the tracks, click on one track, type in -6dB and I am done. In Reason it seems I have to select each individual channel in the mixer and drag it down to -6dB which is pretty cumbersome. Am I missing something in regards how to change multiple mixer channels together without using a Bus. A bus doesn't make sense because these tracks are all different categories.
Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ken
Ken