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[fairlyclose]

Just fired up Riffer 2 again after not using it for awhile. I realized that there is no way to lock the actual rhythm. So if I click in the rhythm using a single note, I would want to lock that rhythm and just have it generate different notes within the scale. That doesn't seem to be possible and now basically it's useless to me.

You can do that - if I understand what you want. You can individually set each step and lock it for any of pitch velocity or duration. Sof if you set up a velocity /duration pattern you like you can lock those off and leave pitch free - or not. On a step by step basis. Riffer2 is very powerful

[JiggSaw]

Just fired up Riffer 2 again after not using it for awhile. I realized that there is no way to lock the actual rhythm. So if I click in the rhythm using a single note, I would want to lock that rhythm and just have it generate different notes within the scale. That doesn't seem to be possible and now basically it's useless to me.

You can do that - if I understand what you want. You can individually set each step and lock it for any of pitch velocity or duration. Sof if you set up a velocity /duration pattern you like you can lock those off and leave pitch free - or not. On a step by step basis

I'm a little confused by what you're saying. But I'll explain what I'm trying to accomplish.

Let's say I click steps in using C3. I click step 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16.

I want to lock these steps in but change the key to E minor and click randomize. I don't want Riffer to move or add any steps. Only use random notes of a scale with the pattern I clicked in. It doesn't seem like locking steps with velocity/duration accomplishes this.

[fairlyclose]

Just fired up Riffer 2 again after not using it for awhile. I realized that there is no way to lock the actual rhythm. So if I click in the rhythm using a single note, I would want to lock that rhythm and just have it generate different notes within the scale. That doesn't seem to be possible and now basically it's useless to me.

You can do that - if I understand what you want. You can individually set each step and lock it for any of pitch velocity or duration. Sof if you set up a velocity /duration pattern you like you can lock those off and leave pitch free - or not. On a step by step basis

I'm a little confused by what you're saying. But I'll explain what I'm trying to accomplish.

Let's say I click steps in using C3. I click step 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16.

I want to lock these steps in but change the key to E minor and click randomize. I don't want Riffer to move or add any steps. Only use random notes of a scale with the pattern I clicked in. It doesn't seem like locking steps with velocity/duration accomplishes this.

Is this correct - you want only steps 1,3,7,11,15 and 16 to have notes and all other steps nothing?
If that is the case go to the velocity layer and put velocity levels of zero everywhere except 1, 3, 7, 11, 15,16. Lock that layer. Done. Now only 1, 3, 7, 11, 15,16 can play a note as all other steps have velocity = 0.
Then do whatever you want with pitch.

And you dont have to lock the velocites of all steps, you can leave some free eg 1,7 might be vel = max, whereas 3 and 11 are v=50 and 15,16 are random
You should also be able to achieve this muting steps in the pitch editor then locking as well but that seems a bit buggy in Bitwig and it is too late at night here to investigate. But it should work as well

[JiggSaw]

Just fired up Riffer 2 again after not using it for awhile. I realized that there is no way to lock the actual rhythm. So if I click in the rhythm using a single note, I would want to lock that rhythm and just have it generate different notes within the scale. That doesn't seem to be possible and now basically it's useless to me.

You can do that - if I understand what you want. You can individually set each step and lock it for any of pitch velocity or duration. Sof if you set up a velocity /duration pattern you like you can lock those off and leave pitch free - or not. On a step by step basis

I'm a little confused by what you're saying. But I'll explain what I'm trying to accomplish.

Let's say I click steps in using C3. I click step 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16.

I want to lock these steps in but change the key to E minor and click randomize. I don't want Riffer to move or add any steps. Only use random notes of a scale with the pattern I clicked in. It doesn't seem like locking steps with velocity/duration accomplishes this.

Is this correct - you want only steps 1,3,7,11,15 and 16 to have notes and all other steps nothing?
If that is the case go to the velocity layer and put velocity levels of zero everywhere except 1, 3, 7, 11, 15,16. Lock that layer. Done. Now only 1, 3, 7, 11, 15,16 can play a note as all other steps have velocity = 0.
Then do whatever you want with pitch.

And you dont have to lock the velocites of all steps, you can leave some free eg 1,7 might be vel = max, whereas 3 and 11 are v=50 and 15,16 are random

I tested this and it "kinda" works. It's still not precise though. So setting the velocity levels to zero everywhere except 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16 works for those notes to not be played. However, when I randomize it won't always play that pattern either. Example: Even though I have 3 at velocity 100 (and locked), it still won't always play that note.

What I get instead is a randomization of 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16 rather than every single one of those notes being played 100% of the time.

[Calenberger]

So if I click in the rhythm using a single note, I would want to lock that rhythm and just have it generate different notes within the scale.

That's exactly what Harvest offers.

[JiggSaw]

So if I click in the rhythm using a single note, I would want to lock that rhythm and just have it generate different notes within the scale.

That's exactly what Harvest offers.

I downloaded Harvest Mini. I'm going to play with it in a few.

[fairlyclose]

Just fired up Riffer 2 again after not using it for awhile. I realized that there is no way to lock the actual rhythm. So if I click in the rhythm using a single note, I would want to lock that rhythm and just have it generate different notes within the scale. That doesn't seem to be possible and now basically it's useless to me.

You can do that - if I understand what you want. You can individually set each step and lock it for any of pitch velocity or duration. Sof if you set up a velocity /duration pattern you like you can lock those off and leave pitch free - or not. On a step by step basis

I'm a little confused by what you're saying. But I'll explain what I'm trying to accomplish.

Let's say I click steps in using C3. I click step 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16.

I want to lock these steps in but change the key to E minor and click randomize. I don't want Riffer to move or add any steps. Only use random notes of a scale with the pattern I clicked in. It doesn't seem like locking steps with velocity/duration accomplishes this.

Is this correct - you want only steps 1,3,7,11,15 and 16 to have notes and all other steps nothing?
If that is the case go to the velocity layer and put velocity levels of zero everywhere except 1, 3, 7, 11, 15,16. Lock that layer. Done. Now only 1, 3, 7, 11, 15,16 can play a note as all other steps have velocity = 0.
Then do whatever you want with pitch.

And you dont have to lock the velocites of all steps, you can leave some free eg 1,7 might be vel = max, whereas 3 and 11 are v=50 and 15,16 are random

I tested this and it "kinda" works. It's still not precise though. So setting the velocity levels to zero everywhere except 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16 works for those notes to not be played. However, when I randomize it won't always play that pattern either. Example: Even though I have 3 at velocity 100 (and locked), it still won't always play that note.

What I get instead is a randomization of 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16 rather than every single one of those notes being played 100% of the time.

works perfectly for me, and it can be done using the pitch layer as well - but go for Harvest, maybe that will suit you better. I use both

[JiggSaw]

Just fired up Riffer 2 again after not using it for awhile. I realized that there is no way to lock the actual rhythm. So if I click in the rhythm using a single note, I would want to lock that rhythm and just have it generate different notes within the scale. That doesn't seem to be possible and now basically it's useless to me.

You can do that - if I understand what you want. You can individually set each step and lock it for any of pitch velocity or duration. Sof if you set up a velocity /duration pattern you like you can lock those off and leave pitch free - or not. On a step by step basis

I'm a little confused by what you're saying. But I'll explain what I'm trying to accomplish.

Let's say I click steps in using C3. I click step 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16.

I want to lock these steps in but change the key to E minor and click randomize. I don't want Riffer to move or add any steps. Only use random notes of a scale with the pattern I clicked in. It doesn't seem like locking steps with velocity/duration accomplishes this.

Is this correct - you want only steps 1,3,7,11,15 and 16 to have notes and all other steps nothing?
If that is the case go to the velocity layer and put velocity levels of zero everywhere except 1, 3, 7, 11, 15,16. Lock that layer. Done. Now only 1, 3, 7, 11, 15,16 can play a note as all other steps have velocity = 0.
Then do whatever you want with pitch.

And you dont have to lock the velocites of all steps, you can leave some free eg 1,7 might be vel = max, whereas 3 and 11 are v=50 and 15,16 are random

I tested this and it "kinda" works. It's still not precise though. So setting the velocity levels to zero everywhere except 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16 works for those notes to not be played. However, when I randomize it won't always play that pattern either. Example: Even though I have 3 at velocity 100 (and locked), it still won't always play that note.

What I get instead is a randomization of 1, 3, 7, 11, 15, 16 rather than every single one of those notes being played 100% of the time.

works perfectly for me, and it can be done using the pitch layer as well - but go for Harvest, maybe that will suit you better. I use both

Hey... after chatting with support I got it figured out. It's actually pretty simple. For the steps I don't want, they need to show as inactive (the light grey). Then you just lock each of those steps.

[WatchTheGuitar]

Yeah I wouldn't have thought of locking inactive steps either. Good to know.

[Dirtgrain]

Dang Harvest GUI is too small. All the time I'm using it I'm wishing to increase its size. Any way to do that?

Especially would like to be able to expand the number of octaves one can see at one time. As it is, when I range over about 1 3/4 octaves, I have to either not see the notes at the bottom or the notes at the top. Any way to expand this?

[fairlyclose]

Hey... after chatting with support I got it figured out. It's actually pretty simple. For the steps I don't want, they need to show as inactive (the light grey). Then you just lock each of those steps.

thats the pitch layer method I mentioned - using duration and velocity has benefits of being able to define a groove rather than just note on/note off. For some reason that method was buggy using Bitwig last night if I edited values on the fly

[damayor]

I bought scaler 2 really love the drag and drop midi. I'm still playing around but it does have some good melodies. Midi madness is good too. Meoldya is golden. I come up with my own melodies, however this is good for getting a idea or when you a lil bit of writers block. I need to watch more tutorials on scaler 2. I was mainly clicking and clacking blindly.

[Kalamata Kid]

^^^
"I was mainly clicking and clacking blindly."
Hey, that's what I do!
Click, Clack I was taking a bath!

If you have time I will like to hear more of your experience of Midi MAdness and Melodya.

[damayor]

^^^
"I was mainly clicking and clacking blindly."
Hey, that's what I do!
Click, Clack I was taking a bath!

If you have time I will like to hear more of your experience of Midi MAdness and Melodya.

I'll fire them all up tomorrow. Melodya I been using to our some time. You can come up with pretty good melodies wit that. So far it's my favorite. Midi madness I'm still trying to figure out. Seems a bit bland but capable.

[UncleAge]

Midi Madness would be a little more useful if it fleshed/finished one of it's little used features. A lot of folk don't know you can drop a midi clip onto the note area and MM will play back that sequence. Try it out. Instead of dragging that midi sequence from Scaler2 into the daw timeline drop it in the MM window. Problem is, that by itself is of little use. MM will just playback the sequence. However, if it analysed the chords and adjusted internally to generate it sequences accord to the new midi notes, using the loop or the free options, then it would be more useful.

I say that because I find the 1-2 note sequences from MM to be more useful than the stuff I get from Harvest. It would be more useful it was able to internally process externally generated midi.

p.s. You won't be able to drop from a midi clip from the Bitwig timeline. You would have to export that clip first...just sayin' (haven't tried it in Live yet)