Reason 11 announced!!!

[AcrossTheSky]

..don't mind waiting for S12 and messing with what I have now...possibly emulating what Scienic Hybrid does in Halion..or Kontakt
the 80s stuff I won't miss.(have covered).Complex is cool..(sale welcome )
Other instruments .in S11..no thanks.....

I think I might skip Reason 11 completely, which would be the first time skipping a version. If they can't give any straight answers, they will not get my money.

the idea of buying and not being able to resell (REs ..Spitfire Audio etc...)in the future is disappointing for so many of us who are not making any profit from making music/sound design/etc
..I got the R11 upgrade when it was for $99. and just activated..meantime.had time to learn and have fun with K10 (now K12)..ABS4... there is always enough there .
I believe the sales of REs have dropped hence new product..Suite 11 which is nothing else but a collection of REs that you already own and dont have...balanced in such a way that is still an attractive buy ( they hope ) taken into account - statistically what users have n dont have.

[starflakeprj]

the idea of buying and not being able to resell (REs ..Spitfire Audio etc...)in the future is disappointing for so many of us who are not making any profit from making music/sound design/etc
..I got the R11 upgrade when it was for $99. and just activated..meantime.had time to learn and have fun with K10 (now K12)..ABS4... there is always enough there .
I believe the sales of REs have dropped hence new product..Suite 11 which is nothing else but a collection of REs that you already own and dont have...balanced in such a way that is still an attractive buy ( they hope ) taken into account - statistically what users have n dont have.

I agree, nothing else but a sack of RE's, that I already have the ones I really want, and having spent a lot of money at. Scenic might be useful of course, but since I have Komplete 12 Ultimate CE already, as well as a bunch of granular synths (more or less all of the known, both RE's and VSTs), I can accomplish the same thing, and even more unique, than Scenic itself.

There are many developers out there taking care of their loyal customers, but Reason Studios aren't one of them. I think there is only one other developer (other than Reason Studios) that I have asked for some extra discount (due to owning some, or most of their other software, and being a loyal customer), that has given me the cold shoulder. It lead to me skipping the upgrade to the latest bundle version.

Just summed up what I have spent so far in their shop, €5300+ since August 2016, and that's not including any Reason upgrades. So forgive me for giving up on Reason Studios...

[bharris22]

Does anyone know which folder the REs are installed to? I would like to use a symbolic link for those, too.

On Windows it's
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Propellerhead Software\RackExtensions

I found about half of the space (around 10 Gb) for the Rack Extensions at this location, but am still about 10 Gb short - maybe sample content used in the Rack Extensions is at another location still?

The good news is that the symbolic link seems to work fine. It took all of 1 minute to set up, so I am not sure why Propellerhead just couldn't do this themselves - seems it is either arrogance or laziness. I am also not sure what the point of allowing the user to select the program installation location is if the content - which in my case is more than 20 Gb - is strewn across several folders on the local hard drive regardless of that selection.

[festeringheap]

It looks like a fair amount of romplers are included in Reason Suite.

Can anyone here or from Propellerhead please chime in on the entire download size of Suite?

I have only seen 3.7 GB for the Electric Bass on their product pages.

[whannel]

Unless MIDI 2.0 incorporates audio or even includes ReWire it seems a strange decision to remove it from 11, are we likely to see the full sequencer in the VST in an upgrade soon?

e.g. for anyone collaborating/working with files mostly made in Reason, or files with Reason's synths that have been sequenced with lots of automation inside the Reason file, it would then make it difficult/less convenient to continue further work in another DAW.

With just the other DAWs sequencer now being the main focus for all new projects will that not make Reason's sequencer, or Reason as a DAW become less relevant to more users over time? In FL's case they kept the VST and DAW as close to having everything there as possible which would be nice to see but might be difficult to implement if it's not been done this way now.

Surely it can't be too hard to re-add ReWire to encourage collaboration style projects/remixes of older files and keep things most flexible.

[paulbreeze]

4,0G ReasonSuite_1100_d475-Stable_122_383.dmg
3,8G ReasonSuite_1100_d475-Stable_122_383.zip

[Echoes in the Attic]

Anyone know if the Nektar control surface stuff works with REason as a plugin like it does as a DAW? Could be a good controller for the Reason rack VST if so.

[tatanka]

Can anyone here or from Propellerhead please chime in on the entire download size of Suite?

As I posted same question in hear before (no, I am NOT any official) buying suite I can now say that my rack extension folder (and I had only the extension coming with reason 10 standard before) now counts around 11,6 GB after downloading/syncing. When you add the 4 GB standard installation file I think you will land somewhere between 15 and 20 GB depending if you install all the loops too (I did not cause I dont need them).

[EnochLight]

Does anyone know which folder the REs are installed to? I would like to use a symbolic link for those, too.

On Windows it's
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Propellerhead Software\RackExtensions

I found about half of the space (around 10 Gb) for the Rack Extensions at this location, but am still about 10 Gb short - maybe sample content used in the Rack Extensions is at another location still?

The good news is that the symbolic link seems to work fine. It took all of 1 minute to set up, so I am not sure why Propellerhead just couldn't do this themselves - seems it is either arrogance or laziness. I am also not sure what the point of allowing the user to select the program installation location is if the content - which in my case is more than 20 Gb - is strewn across several folders on the local hard drive regardless of that selection.

It’s neither laziness nor arrogance. The vast majority of users don’t really care or are bothered by where they’re installed. A dozen or so people at KVR and Reasontalk are the only ones that seem bothered. And yeah, thankfully symbolic links work fine for those who really need the space.

Anyone know if the Nektar control surface stuff works with REason as a plugin like it does as a DAW? Could be a good controller for the Reason rack VST if so.

Reason Plugin doesn’t have Remote support, so the Nektar series treat it like any other VST running in your DAW. They still work fine in Reason DAW proper, though.

[lessera]

I found about half of the space (around 10 Gb) for the Rack Extensions at this location, but am still about 10 Gb short - maybe sample content used in the Rack Extensions is at another location still?

C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Propellerhead Software\RackExtensions -- installed REs.
C:\ProgramData\Propellerhead Software\Soundbanks -- installed refils.
My Documents\My Music\Propellerhead Content -- optional content, like Radical Piano, Klang, Pangea etc.

It may not be lazy, but it sure is messy.

[Psuper]

Does anyone know which folder the REs are installed to? I would like to use a symbolic link for those, too.

On Windows it's
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Propellerhead Software\RackExtensions

I found about half of the space (around 10 Gb) for the Rack Extensions at this location, but am still about 10 Gb short - maybe sample content used in the Rack Extensions is at another location still?

The good news is that the symbolic link seems to work fine. It took all of 1 minute to set up, so I am not sure why Propellerhead just couldn't do this themselves - seems it is either arrogance or laziness. I am also not sure what the point of allowing the user to select the program installation location is if the content - which in my case is more than 20 Gb - is strewn across several folders on the local hard drive regardless of that selection.

It’s neither laziness nor arrogance. The vast majority of users don’t really care or are bothered by where they’re installed. A dozen or so people at KVR and Reasontalk are the only ones that seem bothered. And yeah, thankfully symbolic links work fine for those who really need the space.

Gamers haven't had to be forced to install a game (of which there are literally many thousands) on C for 15-20 years or so? But a small handful of "professional' companies who produce expensive software with multitude gigs of content for other supposed professionals can't do the same because of what reason exactly?

[oxygenmask]

^ Exactly this. The industry better get used to this. SSDs aren't going anywhere. More of you will have this problem, so let's start a little more out of the box thinking instead of assuming that only 10 of us have the problem.

[EnochLight]

Gamers haven't had to be forced to install a game (of which there are literally many thousands) on C for 15-20 years or so? But a small handful of "professional' companies who produce expensive software with multitude gigs of content for other supposed professionals can't do the same because of what reason exactly?

Do you think if it was a highly requested feature, they would add the option? Have you considered that maybe most users don’t really care?

I’m not saying it wouldn’t be nice. I’ve been on SSD’s for years, and while I’d love to have the option, it’s just not something I’ve ever requested. My feature requests are like GUI related and sequencer enhancements in the standalone app.

[Psuper]

Gamers haven't had to be forced to install a game (of which there are literally many thousands) on C for 15-20 years or so? But a small handful of "professional' companies who produce expensive software with multitude gigs of content for other supposed professionals can't do the same because of what reason exactly?

Do you think if it was a highly requested feature, they would add the option? Have you considered that maybe most users don’t really care?

I’m not saying it wouldn’t be nice. I’ve been on SSD’s for years, and while I’d love to have the option, it’s just not something I’ve ever requested. My feature requests are like GUI related and sequencer enhancements in the standalone app.

Choosing where to install content is consistent among most software companies and industries, its not something anyone should be 'requesting' - in fact its downright ludicrous that anyone would even have to 'request' something standardized.

[EnochLight]

Choosing where to install content is consistent among most software companies and industries, its not something anyone should be 'requesting' - in fact its downright ludicrous that anyone would even have to 'request' something standardized.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And yet, here we are - over 7 years since Rack Extensions appeared, and we still can't choose where the content is installed. Have you considered that (most) average users just don't care? For the record, I think it would be lovely if they fixed this. But on a scale of "things that are important and need to happen in Reason stat", it ranks pretty low for me.