Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

[Richard_Synapse]

While it sounds clean in mono mode, I get a lot of distortion with chords. I have switched off drive, saturation, and noise, still there is that ugly grinding noise when setting one osc to 0 and another to 7 semitones for pads.

Not sure which noise you mean, but if you want the sound to be as clean as possible, additionally lower the oscillator volume knobs, e.g. to 50% or 25% each. Essentially you can make Legend almost perfectly clean that way.

Richard

[Richard_Synapse]

Here's 10 more Patches for The Legend to go along with the ones I released several days ago. Hope somebody finds them useful or at least amusing.

https://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=dl&id=3052

https://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=dl&id=3049

The first patch seems to be identical to a factory patch (3 Octave Lead), otherwise good stuff!

Richard

[fluffy_little_something]

While it sounds clean in mono mode, I get a lot of distortion with chords. I have switched off drive, saturation, and noise, still there is that ugly grinding noise when setting one osc to 0 and another to 7 semitones for pads.

Not sure which noise you mean, but if you want the sound to be as clean as possible, additionally lower the oscillator volume knobs, e.g. to 50% or 25% each. Essentially you can make Legend almost perfectly clean that way.

Richard

Ah, OK Does the osc itself contain some sort of drive effect? At 25 or so there is indeed little noise, even if I compensate by turning up the master volume instead.

[gentleclockdivider]

While it sounds clean in mono mode, I get a lot of distortion with chords. I have switched off drive, saturation, and noise, still there is that ugly grinding noise when setting one osc to 0 and another to 7 semitones for pads.

Not sure which noise you mean, but if you want the sound to be as clean as possible, additionally lower the oscillator volume knobs, e.g. to 50% or 25% each. Essentially you can make Legend almost perfectly clean that way.

Richard

Ah, OK Does the osc itself contain some sort of drive effect? At 25 or so there is indeed little noise, even if I compensate by turning up the master volume instead.

It's called gain staging, the osc's volume also affect the filters input .

[Teksonik]

Here's 10 more Patches for The Legend to go along with the ones I released several days ago. Hope somebody finds them useful or at least amusing.

https://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=dl&id=3052

https://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=dl&id=3049

The first patch seems to be identical to a factory patch (3 Octave Lead), otherwise good stuff!

Richard

Thanks!

I found the other 3 Octave Lead in the KPR bank which I never even open. But they are almost Identical right down to the ADSR settings. I don't copy patches so I'm not sure how it got in there. I'll check my studio computer to see what happened. I'll remove the 3 Octave Lead patch from the bank listed here.

Edit: I figured out what happened. I always start with an INIT patch which is located in the folder right above the KPR folder. So I must have not been paying attention and pulled up the first patch in the KPR folder, got distracted, thought it was my own, tweaked and renamed it......

Anyway I've removed the 3 Osc Lead and replaced it with a couple more patches:

http://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=dl&id=3052

[fluffy_little_something]

An old-skool pad patch...
https://app.box.com/s/00tbc00q4g57dl91ywm8hrfa14zz59nj

(Is that patch file format dangerous or why doesn't KVR allow me to attach it here?)

[PatchAdamz]

Another vintage pad:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... end#t=0:00

Unison Synth:
https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... dio-legend

[PAK]

I noticed a minor bug in the 1.05 demo where, if you hold some notes in poly mode and switch to mono mode (whilst still holding the notes) it can "hang" mono mode - where it won't accept new note input until you go back into poly mode and press the note it hung on as you switched. You can then go back to mono mode and it'll work as normal.

I'm not using VSTi's much lately, especially VA wise. But Legend's very good. However, when considering purchase, the challenge response protection is more off-putting than it used to be. Here's why..

Since Windows 10 is causing me to migrate away from Windows, for now I'm dual booting Win7 and Mac OS on the same hardware. Is the copy protection system smart enough to know when the Mac and PC are the same hardware, or will it treat them both as different registrations? I'm thinking the later.

Even if it was smart enough to handle that, there's Clover. Apple kinda forces that route where internal PCIe card support is needed. Clover's bootloader generates a motherboard ID, which obviously won't match what Windows sees. However things like Network ID and SSD/Spinning drive identifiers etc *should* stay the same.

In these scenarios, not to mention added yearly refresh installs, I reckon a C/R system could present major headaches? Some desktop DAW users are also likely to end up being forced onto Linux, even if it'll take the next decade or more to actually play out..

Point being using more than one platform is a growing concern and, ironically, even dongles may prove less problematic in such scenarios Vs challenge / response. Obviously the same concerns exist with dual booting different versions of Windows on the same machine too, though that throws up many less complications in terms of machine ID

That's why it would be nice, if you're sure you're sticking with C /R , if the maximum machine count could be upped quite a bit? Atm I think it was mentioned that it only includes two registrations? That would rule Legend out for me..

[Teksonik]

You can reformat or change PCs twice a year and simply re-activate. You neither need to unregister anything, nor you need to contact us to be able to do this. We're very pedantic about copy protection, we perfectly understand why people hate dongles and certain C/R mechanisms and in some cases that's a reason for me too not to buy certain products. This is why we designed our activation extremely lightweight, you should never have to contact us, there is no background/tray apps or services running which could potentially slow down the system, etc.etc.

About going out of business, major technological changes that render the system unusable, catastrophic events etc. In such extreme cases we would simply publish a version that does not require any activation.

Richard

[PAK]

How many simultaneous activations do you need ?

I'm not going to go in activating and deactivating things every time I dual boot. That would be more of an annoyance than it's worth. Given that, realistically I'd be ok with 5.. though one or two spare is never a bad thing to have either.

I think the idea with the new copy protection is to keep people from sharing their serial number with all their friends....and the internet.

Yes, those reasons are understood. At the same time there's choppy waters ahead, in terms of desktop DAW users needs and the consumer oriented direction companies like Microsoft and Apple are headed. That greater uncertainty presents several concerns, but in particular it doesn't sit too well with methods like C/R.

O/T I know many users are aware of the horrible privacy stuff, but they don't quite get a lot of the other negative implications of Windows 10 yet. Windows days as the safe backwards-compatibility bet are over. For anyone who cares to know more perhaps read up on what devs like Tim Sweeney are warning about. Though the reliability issues, enforced drivers and configs, and performance (the lastest Redstone is 5-10% down in performance, even as measured by Steinberg in their own compatibility announcement) should be enough of a warning in itself

[Teksonik]

That's one of the reasons I did not allow my studio computer to "upgrade" to Win 10. I'm on Linux Ubuntu as I write this but if I have to use Linux to run my studio I'll retire and go fishing.

Anyway I don't see why a dual boot Win/Mac would require you to go activating and deactivating every time. You're allowed 2 simultaneous installs. Maybe Synapse will up the number, you'll just have to wait to see what Richard says.

But anyway if you don't like the license don't buy the plugin. There are plugins I won't buy because of their C/P methods..

[Yorrrrrr]

An old-skool pad patch...
https://app.box.com/s/00tbc00q4g57dl91ywm8hrfa14zz59nj

(Is that patch file format dangerous or why doesn't KVR allow me to attach it here?)

That sounds so nice. Please share other patches

[PAK]

That's one of the reasons I did not allow my studio computer to "upgrade" to Win 10. I'm on Linux Ubuntu as I write this but if I have to use Linux to run my studio I'll retire and go fishing.

Hehe. Well, maybe (just maybe) it'll be more viable at some point. Shame some benevolent billionaire couldn't pay to port key software (Photoshop/Premier and audio equivalents etc), and "incent" (bribe) hardware makers to pre-install. Then you just might see an exodus of content creators rushing for that life boat..

Anyway I don't see why a dual boot Win/Mac would require you to go activating and deactivating every time. You're allowed 2 simultaneous installs. Maybe Synapse will up the number, you'll just have to wait to see what Richard says.

Yes. It's for a dev to decide what's best for their own livelihood, and I hope the change is borne out in sales. All I'd say is 5 installs would cover almost all scenarios, where 2 might cover "most". I just want the ability to install on 2 dual-boot Mac/Win machines and a Macbook Pro laptop at the same time.

But anyway if you don't like the license don't buy the plugin. There are plugins I won't buy because of their C/P methods..

I have quite a few c/r plugins, though the only one I've bothered to reinstall is the Spectrasonics stuff.

I'm reaching that point where I just want things to work with minimal battles, and starting to wonder if maybe the staunchest OTB guys weren't on to something all along..

[fluffy_little_something]

An old-skool pad patch...
https://app.box.com/s/00tbc00q4g57dl91ywm8hrfa14zz59nj

(Is that patch file format dangerous or why doesn't KVR allow me to attach it here?)

That sounds so nice. Please share other patches

Grácias
Frankly, I don't even remember what it sounded like because I only have the demo version, so no patch loading... And since I won't get Legend (I suppose it is for Minimoog enthusiasts (which I am not), I miss so many things about it, which I am used to from other synths by now) and don't know those hundreds of factory and other people's presets already out there, making more patches than the two I have linked here would make little sense as they most likely already exist due to the limited number of controls and hence possible sounds.

[fluffy_little_something]

A final patch from me, wanted to check out what one can do with the noise osc, resulted in one of those violent 80s drum sounds

https://app.box.com/s/os4zsd2v13x2pf477iqo4nr7ao39f4lz

Will uninstall the demo now, the trial period is almost over anyway

For those who have Dune2, how close can one get with it to Legend's sound, say on a scale from 0 to 10?
Is Dune2 kind of legacy in terms of sound quality (compared to Legend, that is, simply as the developer's coding and technical skills increase; I know Dune2 is rather popular and among the best of standard synths).