KVR Audio

sjm · Post by **sjm** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:30 am

I have it on pretty good authority* that this is an issue similar to the Fruity Loops / Froot Loops trademark fiasco a while back. This time it's R.J. Reynolds Tobacco vs Camel Audio and the issue at hand is the "Camel" moniker (it's pretty easy to confuse cigarettes and VSTs). Until the case has been decided, CA's lawyers have recommended that CA cease trading under the moniker "Camel". Depending on the outcome, we may yet see them resurface as "Dromedary Audio".

Also re the NDA's and why we aren't being told about the NDA:
The first rule of the NDA is: You do not to talk about the NDA.

I though everyone knew that.

*This may be totally made-up

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:32 am

Spelling/schmelling. Have one of my special triscuits...

Dynabee · Post by **Dynabee** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:34 am

I Would be very happy if image line bought them out..

dnekm · Post by **dnekm** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:35 am

I wonder..... If Camel Audio has been bought, how does that pertain to licensing agreements made before they were bought?

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:37 am

hibidy wrote:Spelling/schmelling. Have one of my special triscuits...

I'm too pudgy, unless they are the three-sided lite versions.
I think Camel had one of those on CMdvd, and maybe some content on top.

Ben H · Post by **Ben H** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:38 am

gamecat666 wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Since we're playing the speculation game I'll play along. I'm sure this must have been speculated at least a few times already but if there is a buy out IK Multimedia might be a likely suspect. They certainly have the resources and the fit might be good given the iOS apps and the fact that IK doesn't have a synth like Alchemy. I'd have mixed emotions if that did happen but it might benefit all concerned.....even the end user. Or it could be a complete circle f*ck.....who knows....that's my love/hate relationship with IK.
urrggh, I wouldnt wish that on anybody. Anyone but them!

Agreed. I would rather slit my wrists than do business with IKM again.

Ameyah Audio · Post by **Ameyah Audio** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:38 am

sjm wrote:I have it on pretty good authority* that this is an issue similar to the Fruity Loops / Froot Loops trademark fiasco a while back. This time it's R.J. Reynolds Tobacco vs Camel Audio and the issue at hand is the "Camel" moniker (it's pretty easy to confuse cigarettes and VSTs). Until the case has been decided, CA's lawyers have recommended that CA cease trading under the moniker "Camel". Depending on the outcome, we may yet see them resurface as "Dromedary Audio".

Also re the NDA's and why we aren't being told about the NDA:
The first rule of the NDA is: You do not to talk about the NDA.

I though everyone knew that.

*This may be totally made-up

good solution too.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:39 am

glokraw wrote:
hibidy wrote:Spelling/schmelling. Have one of my special triscuits...
I'm too pudgy, unless they are the three-sided lite versions.
I think Camel had one of those on CMdvd, and maybe some content on top.

Well, mine are delicious......a good host wants people to be happy.....being the life of the party and all.

Peanuts? They're chipotle!

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:41 am

As host, I'm very disappointed by the playing of the IK card. Please only limit speculation to if it will be ilok. Thanks.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:43 am

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kamelmauz · Post by **kamelmauz** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:48 am

Alchemy, along with Animoog and Gestrument have been my go-to partners in sonic crime for a couple of years. Alchemy remains, with Absynth and Reaktor, my favorite creative software tools. CamelAudio: great tools and great folks.

Perhaps, CamelAudio's entire stable has been, overnight, converted to legacy status. It does seem there could be a big reset and some positive news about transfer of IP in the future.

I have a hope, rather than a speculation. If Apple were to absorb Alchemy, would it be then likely that they are looking for a flagship music making app for their big screen iPad due next year?

Alchemy's desktop version begged for a deeper implementation of a touch-based interface on the iPad. Imagine having (something like) Lemur or Konkreet Performer tricked out to control--on a super-sized iPad--the very rich array of controls and parameters embedded under the surface of Alchemy's desktop UI. I'm dreaming of having Alchemy's full engine running on an iPad with a mind-blowing touch UI.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:49 am

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fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:51 am

Cigarettes are on there way out so I could see Camel Cigarettes doing this maybe ? Maybe we'll see a new company called Vapor Audio ?

yessongs · Post by **yessongs** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:55 am

maybe this is due to cakewalk / gibson buying them out and next sonar x4 will include alchemy plus several libs.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:58 am

That's as close to the truth as anything else. We should lock this now.

Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]