Pulsar 900 Series

[Cinebient]

You're confusing things. Lot of VA synths have audio rate modulation and source-destination connections for example Bazille -- it is also producing incredible timbres but it sounds different from real analog and very-very-very different from vintage analog.
But RePro is sounding like vintage analog and that's the sound way harder to achieve in digital.

^^^ THIS ^^^

I think people sometimes confuse some idiosyncrasies that are modeled in emulations with flaws, forgetting that ALL analog models from the past HAD flaws (and limitations).

I don't dispute some people may find P900 the best thing that appeared since toasted breath, but they should refrain from absolute statements like "it's the best analog", especially when there never was such thing as "the best analog".

BTW - For me, Moog was NEVER my favorite analog - just as an example, even though I grew up for synth music with "Switched-on Bach" and Klaus Schulze earlier albums.

Because of this i ALWAYS say that in MY opinion P900 is the best for me. I like the timbres a lot more it can create. That‘s it. Some might agree and some not. Next is that it‘s a lot more versatile as Repro f.e.
Of course people just could be happy with what they use and stay away from these threads
It‘s also the sum of all for me. F.e. is the included reverb much better than the one in most other synths....for me at least.
But it‘s a common thing today that people like to complain and will be never happy. Try to create stuff and ignore these threads

[Cinebient]

I like P900 also for these timbres i can´t get out of other modular or Repro or any other synth i own with just 2 audio rate modulations added on high resonance and with lot of saturation.
That´s far from digital...for me at least. It sounds not good if i try the same with Repro (but Repro is also great of course...but not good as P900 and even not as good as the Moog Model D app).
https://soundcloud.com/user-790535032/p ... odulations

You're confusing things. Lot of VA synths have audio rate modulation and source-destination connections for example Bazille -- it is also producing incredible timbres but it sounds different from real analog and very-very-very different from vintage analog.
But RePro is sounding like vintage analog and that's the sound way harder to achieve in digital.

And you are confusing that your opinion is a fact.
Yes, Repro sounds amazing and might a close to perfect 1:1 emulation but still i find the things i can get out of P900 more organic, more life....whatever you would call it.
It doesn‘t is a 1:1 emulation, it‘s better
I could say the same for iOS Zeeon. It‘s a bit like Diva since it has characters of different analog circuits but is a lot more versatile as well.
However, if you are happy with your synths. All is fine.

[fmr]

Because of this i ALWAYS say that in MY opinion P900 is the best for me. I like the timbres a lot more it can create. That‘s it. Some might agree and some not. Next is that it‘s a lot more versatile as Repro f.e.
Of course people just could be happy with what they use and stay away from these threads
It‘s also the sum of all for me. F.e. is the included reverb much better than the one in most other synths....for me at least.
But it‘s a common thing today that people like to complain and will be never happy. Try to create stuff and ignore these threads

I don't know if this was addressed to me, but nevertheless:

1. I wasn't complaining. Yes, I have this thread subscribed, as I have countless others, and I just replied to people saying that P900 was "the best analog" It wasn't certainly addressed to you. I know you are clever enough to not express yourself in such "absolute" terms.

2. Why should I stay away from these threads, and let people say rubbish things like that this is much better the RePro when they are comparing things that can't be compared? They could say that this is much better than a real Minimoog too

Picking your own words, it is certainly "a lot more versatile"...

And I'm happy either way, with or without P900, which I stopped bothering with a long time ago, as soon as it became clear to me the guy was unable to free himself from the Apple trap he falled into. But thanks for your concern

[martinjuenke]

Same pattern of behavior as too often:
Say something that can be interpreted as a slight criticism of u-he products and the zealots jump in and fire with all its guns... It’s a pity!

Disclaimer:
I am proud owner of ALL u-he synths

[Cinebient]

Then there is also the GUI which is for me the best i used yet for a modular or even compared to most other synths. And yes it‘s super smooth and zooming inside the plug-in works great (it seems to use metal).
Is it perfect? No. Has it some bugs? Yes.
Still i love it and while some disagree i indeed see a lot people saying it‘s the best sounding synth in other forums (about modulars f.e.). And these people own a lot hardware but even prefer this.
But it‘s also a thing you must use yourself and see/hear how it reacts to live tweaking and things.
Like i said, what sets it apart for me is especially the saturation (which is polyphonic here too).
That i like it more than others doesn‘t mean anything of course.
My favorite synth in general (including hybrid and/or other synthesis forms) is still Alchemy, even if it‘s more on the digital side
So yeah, i hope Apple buy PulsarModular and we get v2.0 with Logic 10.5

[pdxindy]

I wish there was a VST version... I like the sound of P900 and it has some gorgeous sweet spots. It does sound a bit brittle sometimes... still overall excellent sound!

It is basically abandonware and doesn't work in Bitwig, so I'm not going to buy it. Too much hassle to use it.

[masterhiggins]

I wish there was a VST version... I like the sound of P900 and it has some gorgeous sweet spots. It does sound a bit brittle sometimes... still overall excellent sound!

It is basically abandonware and doesn't work in Bitwig, so I'm not going to buy it. Too much hassle to use it.

It’s a shame when developers release a great plugin only to not give a flying f*** about it months later. Same thing happened with Drumspillage 2 (among many others, of course).

[wagtunes]

I wish there was a VST version... I like the sound of P900 and it has some gorgeous sweet spots. It does sound a bit brittle sometimes... still overall excellent sound!

It is basically abandonware and doesn't work in Bitwig, so I'm not going to buy it. Too much hassle to use it.

It’s a shame when developers release a great plugin only to not give a flying f*** about it months later. Same thing happened with Drumspillage 2 (among many others, of course).

Here is the problem. Not everybody is a U-he or Native Instruments with a huge staff and tons of money and time for R&D. Many of these devs are small single person operations with regular jobs and bills to pay. The money they make off their synths don't pay enough to warrant them spending full time on development. And then, if work and life get crazy, that's it. It's not important enough to keep working on.

That's the reality, whether we like it or not.

[whyterabbyt]

Here is the problem. Not everybody is a U-he or Native Instruments with a huge staff and tons of money and time for R&D.

Not even U-he.

[wagtunes]

Here is the problem. Not everybody is a U-he or Native Instruments with a huge staff and tons of money and time for R&D.

Not even U-he.

Well I'm pretty sure Urs Heckman is more than just him, correct?

[fmr]

Here is the problem. Not everybody is a U-he or Native Instruments with a huge staff and tons of money and time for R&D.

Not even U-he.

Well I'm pretty sure Urs Heckman is more than just him, correct?

When Urs launched Zebra 1, it was just him. When he launched MFM and Filterscape, it was still just him.

And when Native Instruments launched Generator (and even later, when they launched Transformator and Reaktor) they were basically two programmers.

[wagtunes]

Here is the problem. Not everybody is a U-he or Native Instruments with a huge staff and tons of money and time for R&D.

Not even U-he.

Well I'm pretty sure Urs Heckman is more than just him, correct?

When Urs launched Zebra 1, it was just him. When he launched MFM and Filterscape, it was still just him.

Okay, well does anybody actually know how many people work for him at the moment? At that point in time when he was just him, depending on his personal circumstances (did he have a regular job?) he could have very well stopped developing. So what he may or may not have been back then is irrelevant to the conversation we're having now. Not every single person shop has the resources to say "Hell with everything else in my life" and continue to develop when bills have to be paid. That is all I'm saying. Nothing more, nothing less.

And that is why, if you look around, you will see very few single person devs with multitudes of products. They simply don't have the capacity to create tech on the scale of the larger companies. And if what they're making doesn't feed them, depending on how much time their "jobs" give them, they may or may not be able to continue working on new tech.

I mean are we REALLY arguing this? Isn't this almost like a DUH statement? If I were working a full time job that paid my bills and had the skills to make synths, do you really think I'd spend anymore than my spare time doing it? I mean there are only so many hours in a day.

The guy who made Pulsar 900, being ONE person, probably doesn't have the time to work on making this thing Windows compatible or whatever else the public expects from this synth. And given that feeding himself is probably his main concern, I doubt that he even cares all that much.

Again, are we REALLY arguing this?

[pdxindy]

Dmitry Sches now has what... 3 plugins I think...

[wagtunes]

Please look at my original statement.

Many of these devs are small single person operations with regular jobs and bills to pay. The money they make off their synths don't pay enough to warrant them spending full time on development.

First off, I said "many" not all. I'm sure there are some single person devs who are either retired or young kids in school who can spend all their time on this stuff. Maybe some of them go on to become very successful and never have to work a job. But I know just from experience here on this forum with all the devs who have closed up shop that the success cases are not the norm, as it is with just about any small business.

Again, why are we even debating this?

[liquidsound]

It take two to tango?