Massive X 1.6.1 update (September 2025)!

[chk071]

Used to be the same for me, but, since I got new glasses, dark GUI's work nicely for me too.

[jasonekratz]

Used to be the same for me, but, since I got new glasses, dark GUI's work nicely for me too.

Wish that were the case for me but part of my problem is the age of my eyes Love the look of dark mode UIs, just can't use em.

[chk071]

Probably interesting for the one or the other here: https://www.native-instruments.com/foru ... st-2111327

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

Demoed Massive along with other Komplete 13 stuff. There is so much NI stuff I like, but not the shells, Reaktor, Kontakt or Komplete control. They are not for me at all. I cannot point to anything particular about them, just that I don’t like them and my hands and mind won’t work with them. A pity, because it is high quality and creative stuff, often in packs with great value. Nice Reason offers similar creativity to some extent, and that there a good deal of alternatives to massive.

[Sinisterbr]

Probably interesting for the one or the other here: https://www.native-instruments.com/foru ... st-2111327

This is one thing I don't understand very well: Will this effort to make MX work with Rosetta be (at least a part of it) in any way usable for it to work with M1?

[pdxindy]

This is one thing I don't understand very well: Will this effort to make MX work with Rosetta be (at least a part of it) in any way usable for it to work with M1?

Seems like it must be somewhat useful as a step towards native M1 support.

As soon as the next iteration of Apple Silicon machines (16" MBP) come out, I will be buying one. So maybe 4 months from now.

I will only be installing native plugins and applications. so if NI stuff is not AS native by then, NI gets dropped until they are. I'm not optimistic about NI being native by then. For sure I would miss some NI stuff, but if it takes too long to go native, I may have gotten used to not using anything from NI and just be done altogether.

[dayjob]

This is one thing I don't understand very well: Will this effort to make MX work with Rosetta be (at least a part of it) in any way usable for it to work with M1?

Seems like it must be somewhat useful as a step towards native M1 support.

As soon as the next iteration of Apple Silicon machines (16" MBP) come out, I will be buying one. So maybe 4 months from now.

I will only be installing native plugins and applications.

why? by all reports most things are working really well under rosetta and if the M1 is good enough to do that good of a job then whatever is next.. Mx.. will certainly do an even better job of running things under rosetta.

unless there is some complication when installing native M1 applications over rosetta versions then i don't see any reason to not install things running under rosetta. obviously do whatever makes sense to you. i probably let some OCD tendencies force some irrational behaviors/relationships to gear/software so i'm not one to judge... but really.. just curious if there's some reason not to run apps under rosetta when they work pretty well?

[digitalboytn]

One of the funny things about this is that Native Instruments always promoted that "Future of Sound" BS,but how can they be so confident about the future when they can't even deal with very practical issues in the present ?

They should have fired the bean counters and kept the coders

[pdxindy]

Seems like it must be somewhat useful as a step towards native M1 support.

As soon as the next iteration of Apple Silicon machines (16" MBP) come out, I will be buying one. So maybe 4 months from now.

I will only be installing native plugins and applications.

why? by all reports most things are working really well under rosetta and if the M1 is good enough to do that good of a job then whatever is next.. Mx.. will certainly do an even better job of running things under rosetta.

unless there is some complication when installing native M1 applications over rosetta versions then i don't see any reason to not install things running under rosetta. obviously do whatever makes sense to you. i probably let some OCD tendencies force some irrational behaviors/relationships to gear/software so i'm not one to judge... but really.. just curious if there's some reason not to run apps under rosetta when they work pretty well?

Native applications will inevitably be more efficient. With only native applications, one need not even install Rosetta. That is one less layer of complexity for things to go wrong.

Over the next couple years, who knows in what ways the OS and native applications may develop. At any time, some issue with a Rosetta app/plugin could arise. A few years after that, Apple will drop Rosetta support. I would rather just make a clean break right from the start.

Plus the two DAW's I use are already M1 native (Bitwig and Logic). So are all the main applications I use regularly (Capture One, the Affinity Apps, etc). So are most of the audio plugins I use. Since 90% of what I use is/will be M1 native by the time I buy an Apple Silicon computer(s), it is not a big deal to go native only.

The two companies I am not confident will be M1 native by then are NI and Elektron's Overbridge.

[dayjob]

Seems like it must be somewhat useful as a step towards native M1 support.

As soon as the next iteration of Apple Silicon machines (16" MBP) come out, I will be buying one. So maybe 4 months from now.

I will only be installing native plugins and applications.

why? by all reports most things are working really well under rosetta and if the M1 is good enough to do that good of a job then whatever is next.. Mx.. will certainly do an even better job of running things under rosetta.

unless there is some complication when installing native M1 applications over rosetta versions then i don't see any reason to not install things running under rosetta. obviously do whatever makes sense to you. i probably let some OCD tendencies force some irrational behaviors/relationships to gear/software so i'm not one to judge... but really.. just curious if there's some reason not to run apps under rosetta when they work pretty well?

Native applications will inevitably be more efficient. With only native applications, one need not even install Rosetta. That is one less layer of complexity for things to go wrong.

Over the next couple years, who knows in what ways the OS and native applications may develop. At any time, some issue with a Rosetta app/plugin could arise. A few years after that, Apple will drop Rosetta support. I would rather just make a clean break right from the start.

Plus the two DAW's I use are already M1 native (Bitwig and Logic). So are all the main applications I use regularly (Capture One, the Affinity Apps, etc). So are most of the audio plugins I use. Since 90% of what I use is/will be M1 native by the time I buy an Apple Silicon computer(s), it is not a big deal to go native only.

The two companies I am not confident will be M1 native by then are NI and Elektron's Overbridge.

oh that makes sense. i thought rosetta was part of the big sur M1 install by default. didn't even think about it being an optional install.

ya never know w/elektron. hopefully they get overbridge dialed for M1 soon. i think they see the writing on the wall pretty clearly.

[m-ac]

If you want to use a non-native synth in logic, does it automatically open via rosetta or do you have to start logic up in non-native mode?

[pdxindy]

oh that makes sense. i thought rosetta was part of the big sur M1 install by default. didn't even think about it being an optional install.

ya never know w/elektron. hopefully they get overbridge dialed for M1 soon. i think they see the writing on the wall pretty clearly.

As you said, using Rosetta seems to work surprisingly well all things considered. First time you use an app that is not native, it asks you to install Rosetta. It's all pretty seamless.

Regarding Overbridge, I'm sure Elektron is working on it. It is working on Big Sur now. It is just a matter of when for M1 native.

[chk071]

Massive X version 1.3.3 out now, adding Rosetta compatibility and VST3:

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[spacepluk]

nice! thanks for the heads up

[Vortifex]

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