Your next amp

[metalifuxx]

Thanks, I hope so because I don't plan on getting another one anytime soon. Although it'd be nice to have one of those small Orange Jim Root Terrors

When going for the Slipknot sound, don't forget that a lot of the heavy bass low end is coming from the bass guitar and kick drum/toms and the other percussion they employ. A friend of mine looking for that sound tried out the Rivera amps they use and some Oranges and was sadly disappointed. Of course he was very stubborn and naive about sound mixing/engineering, and refused to believe that he couldn't get that sound alone from a single guitar amp without a heavy backing band. He therefore decided those amps were shit. Of course he was one of those not so technical guitar players who just cranked the gain and volume on his amp to drown you (the other guitar player) out, with the mentality that he has the louder distorted amp, therefore he is the awesome better guitar player, but he had no note definition and sounded like a bee buzzing in some mud Trying to just deal with that and make him come to his senses about that eventually did not work, so jamming and "his" so called awesome band, did not last long with me, and eventually the other members. Stubborn set-in-thier-ways British people (no offense Dean).

[Peevy2000]

Thanks, I hope so because I don't plan on getting another one anytime soon. Although it'd be nice to have one of those small Orange Jim Root Terrors

When going for the Slipknot sound, don't forget that a lot of the heavy bass low end is coming from the bass guitar and kick drum/toms and the other percussion they employ. A friend of mine looking for that sound tried out the Rivera amps they use and some Oranges and was sadly disappointed. Of course he was very stubborn and naive about sound mixing/engineering, and refused to believe that he couldn't get that sound alone from a single guitar amp without a heavy backing band. He therefore decided those amps were shit. Of course he was one of those not so technical guitar players who just cranked the gain and volume on his amp to drown you (the other guitar player) out, with the mentality that he has the louder distorted amp, therefore he is the awesome better guitar player, but he had no note definition and sounded like a bee buzzing in some mud Trying to just deal with that and make him come to his senses about that eventually did not work, so jamming and "his" so called awesome band, did not last long with me, and eventually the other members. Stubborn set-in-thier-ways British people (no offense Dean).

Well I'm more than happy enough with the tones I'm getting from the EVH. The only reason I'd consider getting something like a Jim Root Terror is for the portability factor.

When I've done any heavily guitar orientated music I always put a highpass filter at at least 80 or 90 Hz, sometimes even as much as 120Hz. The guitars might sound a bit crap on their own but in a mix this approach usually works really well, especially for heavier music. You really should leave a bit of space at the low end for the Bass & kick.

Oh & speaking of lunchbox amps, has anyone heard the new Orange OR15? Check out this video:



I know its not for everyone but I just love that Orange fuzzyness.

Here's a video the Captain & Chappers did for The Orange Jim Root Terror:

[hibidy]

So, today I made my semi-annual trek to GC as a serious customer (always a bad idea) and got to play through a ton of amps.

bleck.

I know it's not ideal to be in a place with a guitar you are unfamiliar with and a bunch of dorks who just got out of school on summer break........but jeeez. After all these years, after all the times, I'll stand up and shout.

"I LOVE MY AMP SIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Yes folks, no more hiding! The closet is open, I'm comin' out! I love my amp sims! I hate 99.9% of the amps I play through. They sound like ass! Fizz? You wanna talk about fizz? I'll show you FIZZ (plugs in through a mesa boogie combo. BLECK! Two snaps down!

Discuss!

[Hink]

(plugs in through a mesa boogie combo. BLECK! Two snaps down!

Discuss!

it seems you missed a few steps in there, I've put a lot more thought into my signal chain from the pick-up to the mic...if that's not your thing what's wrong with that? All that matters is what gives you the most enjoyment, it's no one's call but yours

[zerocrossing]

So, today I made my semi-annual trek to GC as a serious customer (always a bad idea) and got to play through a ton of amps.

bleck.

I know it's not ideal to be in a place with a guitar you are unfamiliar with and a bunch of dorks who just got out of school on summer break........but jeeez. After all these years, after all the times, I'll stand up and shout.

"I LOVE MY AMP SIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Yes folks, no more hiding! The closet is open, I'm comin' out! I love my amp sims! I hate 99.9% of the amps I play through. They sound like ass! Fizz? You wanna talk about fizz? I'll show you FIZZ (plugs in through a mesa boogie combo. BLECK! Two snaps down!

Discuss!

Shhhhhhh, that's not how you're supposed to think! That's how I'm supposed to think!

You know me though, I'm just wishing I was Neo in the Matrix but instead of "guns" I say, "Amps... lots of amps." Then a rack of a thousand perfect sounding guitar amps flies past me and I feel the cool breeze of it and the smell of tolex... but it is just an illusion. So far the Kemper is the closest thing to my Matrix fantasy I've been able to find.

Woah.

[davidka]

Ideas on this one? If I can handle 54hrs/week at work, I may be able to save up for this. It does not seem to emulate or copy anything. Made to be original, it is just a small tube amp on it's own. And of course, who knows how much will it worth 8 years from now?

[Hink]

Ideas on this one? If I can handle 54hrs/week at work, I may be able to save up for this. It does not seem to emulate or copy anything. Made to be original, it is just a small tube amp on it's own. And of course, who knows how much will it worth 8 years from now?

the one I found the price sure is right, it looks awesome, it has a nice tube compliment (2 12ax7s and two 6v6s) and I like the idea of a 15" speaker) Unfortunately for me (and keep in mind I have no idea what you will use it for so this is just for me) it would not be high on my list. There is no tone stack which can be a good thing tbh, but it has a tremolo and I'm not a tremolo guy. A bigger issue has to do with the power tubes, 18w is pretty freakin loud and unless you live in a place where you can really crank it up having just a volume control means it's going to be very loud if you want the tubes to start breaking up.

Once again though the price is right and if it suits your needs I say go for it, but I might also look around a bit because for a little more money you might get a lot more features. Still a 15", an accordion input, a mic input and a guitar input all are rather unique and old school. I read one review where the person with one said it reminded him of his 54 5B6 Bassman which would be a nice sounding amp.

As for resale value down the road, that's a roll of the dice

[davidka]

Fortunately, my neighbours are made of golden, and on late nights, I have my trusty Ibanez TS7 for some low volume crunch madness.

A bit of trololo makes my favourite Warpaint riffs even more dreamy, so that is a big plus for me also.

I hope I'd be able to get that amp some day. The only drawback is the lack of line out, but I suppose that was kept out from it's old school design.

Thanks for your answer, Hink

[zerocrossing]

Oh & speaking of lunchbox amps, has anyone heard the new Orange OR15? Check out this video:



I know its not for everyone but I just love that Orange fuzzyness.

Here's a video the Captain & Chappers did for The Orange Jim Root Terror:

I've only heard the Oranges in videos but, man, I always love that tone. OT, they're some of my favorite Amplitube emulations to date.

[Hink]

Fortunately, my neighbours are made of golden, and on late nights, I have my trusty Ibanez TS7 for some low volume crunch madness.

A bit of trololo makes my favourite Warpaint riffs even more dreamy, so that is a big plus for me also.

I hope I'd be able to get that amp some day. The only drawback is the lack of line out, but I suppose that was kept out from it's old school design.

Thanks for your answer, Hink

I also use a TS clone I built with some of the boutique mods so I know what you mean, just remember still 18 watts of just 6v6s is going to be loud. I have an Eganter Rebel 20 and it uses 2 6v6s and 2 EL84s (there's a blend control) and it is not quiet. BTW if you do not mind modifying the amp weber makes a kit for adding a line out that takes some of it's signal from the power tubes adding some power tube distortion. They also have kits for a master volume, tone stack, gain stages, fx loops (make sure if you have never worked with tubes you have a tech do this because the caps hold the juice for quite a while and can be very dangerous)

[Hink]

I'm thinking of building a nicer looking version of this cabinet for the Frenzel CSS. I still have enough grate left so I can use that instead of plexiglass and the flip top would be perfect for swapping the power tube

[ew]

Yes folks, no more hiding! The closet is open, I'm comin' out! I love my amp sims! I hate 99.9% of the amps I play through. They sound like ass! Fizz? You wanna talk about fizz? I'll show you FIZZ (plugs in through a mesa boogie combo. BLECK! Two snaps down!

Discuss!

The problem that a lot of people have with Boogies is that it's really hard to dial them in properly in a store. The controls are very interactive at the extremes; if you kick in a lot of treble, you'll need to basically dime everything else to get any balance, and it still won't sound right. Start with all your controls midway, and use small adjustments to get where you want.

Add to that the gain structure; I find with my Mark V that the only time I have the gain on a channel over 7 is with the tweed mode on the clean channel. And running the amp at 10 watts removes any headroom you might have; I use a Marshall Powerbrake so I can use the amp in 45 or 90 watts for each channel and push the tubes nicely, yet still be quiet enough to avoid blasting out my neighbors

Contrary to public belief (and Mesa/Boogie's advertising), they do take work to dial in so you're happy with what's coming out. But, in the end they're worth it. This is #4 for me (a Studio Preamp/Simul-295 rig, a Mark II B and a DC 30 were the others), and they've all been great amps after I spent some time learning them.

ew

[Hink]

Yes folks, no more hiding! The closet is open, I'm comin' out! I love my amp sims! I hate 99.9% of the amps I play through. They sound like ass! Fizz? You wanna talk about fizz? I'll show you FIZZ (plugs in through a mesa boogie combo. BLECK! Two snaps down!

Discuss!

The problem that a lot of people have with Boogies is that it's really hard to dial them in properly in a store. The controls are very interactive at the extremes; if you kick in a lot of treble, you'll need to basically dime everything else to get any balance, and it still won't sound right. Start with all your controls midway, and use small adjustments to get where you want.

Add to that the gain structure; I find with my Mark V that the only time I have the gain on a channel over 7 is with the tweed mode on the clean channel. And running the amp at 10 watts removes any headroom you might have; I use a Marshall Powerbrake so I can use the amp in 45 or 90 watts for each channel and push the tubes nicely, yet still be quiet enough to avoid blasting out my neighbors

Contrary to public belief (and Mesa/Boogie's advertising), they do take work to dial in so you're happy with what's coming out. But, in the end they're worth it. This is #4 for me (a Studio Preamp/Simul-295 rig, a Mark II B and a DC 30 were the others), and they've all been great amps after I spent some time learning them.

ew

Hi Eric, while I agree with it's ironic that my first Boogie I knew in under two minutes that it was for me. I had my modded plexi (this was mid 80s) then. I went home, got my plexi and left with my first Boogie SOB. I went for one tone, it was there and then I worked backwards finding it had more and less (less in a good way).

You should ditch the brake though and get a weber, if not for any other reason because of the treble boost that helps you keep what the power brake steals from the tone. It also uses a speaker motor instead of a big resistor which makes a tom of difference in the feel. (They also can be used as a dummy load) If that isn't enough they just are not that expensive but made when you order it. As I recall mine took a month instead of two weeks because they had no bottom halves of the case (naturally I asked if that meant it had no bottom end )

That with my iso cab and I'm playing at 3am with the wife and daughter sleeping with any amp

BTW if you get the itch, pick-up a set of THD Yellow Jackets (socket adapters with JJ EL84s) and pull all four 6l6's from the boogie, put the two YJs in the middle and you'll cut the power even more, depending on whether you get pentode or triode defines how much less power (you can keep the other two 6l6's in there if you want and use the half power switch, or run both together on full power). It boasts class A as well but that depends on where you stand on the "class A with more than one tube" argument. I will say in my AB amps they sound closer to my single ended amps then they do with the same amp running it's stock tubes.

[hibidy]

Well, being that in 3-6 there will be no house (if I'm lucky), there will never be an "amp"

But I still enjoy hearing you guys talk about it

[Uncle E]

Well I'm more than happy enough with the tones I'm getting from the EVH.

You got the EVH! Sweet! I've been wanting to try one out ever since you brought it up here. Does it have Fender-y cleans?