Your next amp

[Uncle E]

Ideas on this one? If I can handle 54hrs/week at work, I may be able to save up for this. It does not seem to emulate or copy anything. Made to be original, it is just a small tube amp on it's own. And of course, who knows how much will it worth 8 years from now?

I played one recently and didn't find anything special about it. It really did remind me of all those oddball pawn shop amps it's supposed to conjure but not in a good way.

I think any of these amps would be much cooler:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1482-Si ... 2ebff72531

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-1960-Supro ... 1e6ff4503f

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Gibson-Sky ... 3f18d63dad

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-Crestlin ... 35be0ddd60

[Uncle E]

Contrary to public belief (and Mesa/Boogie's advertising), they do take work to dial in so you're happy with what's coming out. But, in the end they're worth it. This is #4 for me (a Studio Preamp/Simul-295 rig, a Mark II B and a DC 30 were the others), and they've all been great amps after I spent some time learning them.

Not to crap on your point but most Mesa's are easier to dial in than the Mark amps. For example, it's hard to get a bad sound out of your old DC-30 if you leave the graphic EQ alone.

[Uncle E]

Well, being that in 3-6 there will be no house (if I'm lucky), there will never be an "amp"

But I still enjoy hearing you guys talk about it

Get a Kemper.

[davidka]

Thank you for taking your time!
Let me save the bookmarks, and I'll check them after work.

[ew]

Contrary to public belief (and Mesa/Boogie's advertising), they do take work to dial in so you're happy with what's coming out. But, in the end they're worth it. This is #4 for me (a Studio Preamp/Simul-295 rig, a Mark II B and a DC 30 were the others), and they've all been great amps after I spent some time learning them.

Not to crap on your point but most Mesa's are easier to dial in than the Mark amps. For example, it's hard to get a bad sound out of your old DC-30 if you leave the graphic EQ alone.

True- and I should have said that. The DC 30 sounds good no matter what. Dialing in exactly what I want took a little playing around though. And, I find myself using the graphic EQ less and less as I get older.

BTW if you get the itch, pick-up a set of THD Yellow Jackets (socket adapters with JJ EL84s) and pull all four 6l6's from the boogie, put the two YJs in the middle and you'll cut the power even more, depending on whether you get pentode or triode defines how much less power (you can keep the other two 6l6's in there if you want and use the half power switch, or run both together on full power).

I've thought of that a couple times to be honest. However, in my case I'd probably get two sets and replace them all. The Mark V's 10 watt mode uses one tube from each pair, and it'd be nice to preserve that power option.

As far as your earlier point about treble and the Powerbrake goes, that's really not that much of an issue. However, I run EL34s in the Mark V instead of 6L6s; that's probably a big part of why it's not.

ew

[zerocrossing]

Well, being that in 3-6 there will be no house (if I'm lucky), there will never be an "amp"

But I still enjoy hearing you guys talk about it

Doesn't have to be! Depending on how much scratch you can come up with, you could keep your favorite amp head and run it into a Torpedo.

http://www.two-notes.com/en/hardware/torpedo-live/

I almost went this way instead of the Kemper, but it ended up being over my budget since I don't currently own an amp. I think the HD500/DT25/Torpedo would be a killer home studio system.

[davidka]

Ideas on this one? If I can handle 54hrs/week at work, I may be able to save up for this. It does not seem to emulate or copy anything. Made to be original, it is just a small tube amp on it's own. And of course, who knows how much will it worth 8 years from now?

I played one recently and didn't find anything special about it. It really did remind me of all those oddball pawn shop amps it's supposed to conjure but not in a good way.

I think any of these amps would be much cooler:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1482-Si ... 2ebff72531

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-1960-Supro ... 1e6ff4503f

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Gibson-Sky ... 3f18d63dad

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-Crestlin ... 35be0ddd60

Thanks again! The prices are considerably more expensive, as the shipping price really high. Based on these videos and some specs, I think I'd go with a Supro or Silvertone right now. But that'll have to wait for some more time (again :S ).

I may even wait with this purchase until I get relocated to a better country.

Take care!

[Uncle E]

True- and I should have said that. The DC 30 sounds good no matter what. Dialing in exactly what I want took a little playing around though. And, I find myself using the graphic EQ less and less as I get older.

I had a DC-2 with no graphic EQ that I absolutely adored, the only reason I got rid of it is because the original owner asked if he could buy it back. That was a surprisingly great blues amp with the best Santana tone I've found, even better than my Heartbreaker.

Susiwong and I love our Mesa Blue Angels. One perfect, gorgeous channel. Some day, I'll get it modded so that the footswitch simultaneously cuts the reverb, effects loop, mid control (taking the pot out of the line), and bright switch, which is about as much of a channel switcher as I need.

[Hink]

Contrary to public belief (and Mesa/Boogie's advertising), they do take work to dial in so you're happy with what's coming out. But, in the end they're worth it. This is #4 for me (a Studio Preamp/Simul-295 rig, a Mark II B and a DC 30 were the others), and they've all been great amps after I spent some time learning them.

Not to crap on your point but most Mesa's are easier to dial in than the Mark amps. For example, it's hard to get a bad sound out of your old DC-30 if you leave the graphic EQ alone.

True- and I should have said that. The DC 30 sounds good no matter what. Dialing in exactly what I want took a little playing around though. And, I find myself using the graphic EQ less and less as I get older.

BTW if you get the itch, pick-up a set of THD Yellow Jackets (socket adapters with JJ EL84s) and pull all four 6l6's from the boogie, put the two YJs in the middle and you'll cut the power even more, depending on whether you get pentode or triode defines how much less power (you can keep the other two 6l6's in there if you want and use the half power switch, or run both together on full power).

I've thought of that a couple times to be honest. However, in my case I'd probably get two sets and replace them all. The Mark V's 10 watt mode uses one tube from each pair, and it'd be nice to preserve that power option.

As far as your earlier point about treble and the Powerbrake goes, that's really not that much of an issue. However, I run EL34s in the Mark V instead of 6L6s; that's probably a big part of why it's not.

ew

color me stupid...you have a mark V, what would you need YJs for unless you WANT EL84s..as I recall the mark V has pentode/triode already

OTOH, the power brake? I'm positive your point is 100% valid, but (there's always a but ) you do not have the ability to turn off the treble boost like I can. I could live with that tone and love it, but when you have the treble boost and turn it off you know what you are missing. It's probably the one complaint about attenuators that is a fact, you lose headroom and the treble boost puts it back. It's 3db or 6db, I never use 6db and I use it without the treble boost (sometimes the duller tone is great, once again similar to beam blocking) but if you had it I'm willing to bet you would be dumping the brake.

A lot of people will tell you that an attenuator kills tubes but I do not buy into that, it doesn't kill your tubes any more than cranking your amp would imo. I wish you were closer (I say that to a lot of people) because you could come try mine, I doubt you can even buy a used power brake for the price of two of the webers I have (minimass). I have sold and used power brakes and power soaks and didn't want one because of the headroom issue, the minimass is a deal and a half and tbh if you fork out the dough for a mark V what's another 115 bux? https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/minimass.htm

Now I understand that the mark V (or my SOB for that matter) is more than 50 watts (though you can drop that on yours) and you really should have an attenuator that is rated for more than your amp, but that only holds true if you are diming the amp...if so weber has you covered there too

http://www.tedweber.com/atten.htm



I'll try to make a clip this weekend of a riff looped then I'll switch it around while it's playing

[Dean Aka Nekro]

The Mark V is my fave Mesa as it happens, As I only go upto the orange/raw channel on the dual-recto's I have had/used. The Mark V re-issue on the 'extreme' channel is even abit too much for my needs but good to have on tap, Still I bet you all had me down as a Recto Red channel guy hey, C'mon admit it

Current setup I am loving:

Laney Cub 10 combo with external speaker output feeding my 1936 2x12". Pedals infront are the trusty Boss NS-2, Digitech Metal Master or DOD Grunge or Line 6 Uber Metal followed by trusty Rothwell Audio Love Squeeze compressor. Wish Laney did a head of the combo but am going to look into having it converted/rehoused into just a head. They do do a Cub 15 head but it uses a different valve compliment

Changes I am making to my next rig (My trusty Marshall JCM2000DSL 50 head and 4x12" is out on lone to a friend who is playing some festival dates and his amp went down just before/at the worst time it could have. Good to know its back out on stages though). I am going to go for the IronHeart head still but instead of the matching cab, Im going to go for one of Laney's 2x12" cabs fitted with Celestion 70/80 speakers and another which has a pair of Vintage 30 models, Yeah it sounds like not much of a big deal but when mic'd it will make alot of difference to the IronHeart's H&H custom voiced drivers in the matching cabinets as they are rather to much like the Celestion G12 100K's which I already have four of so won't bring anything new to the table. The 70/80 cab will be the base/bottom unit and the V30 cab the angled/top cab. I could just get two of the IronHeart 2x12" or even the base 4x12" then fit the speakers I want but it would leave me with four speakers I do not need, I may do that but still not 100% made up my mind

The Torpedo Live is great and yeah a great piece of kit if volume and mic'ing is an issue or one just wants extra options

Best to all You chaps as always

Dean

[Hink]

I'm keeping an eye on the torpedo, in concept I like it but I need to try it first and the building of an iso box in the future may still be a better way for me (note I said a box, not a cab, I want one I can put a cab or a combo in but there is no way I am paying the price such boxes go for when I can build one for less than a months worth of gas).

Next up for me though is a ribbon mic and more speakers (Rob, you need to sell a ribbon mic), I have found some nice deals on speakers though another mod I need to make to my iso cab is to make the speaker leads about a foot longer so I dont scratch the hell out of my hands (they leave me about 3" of spare space)

Dean, sorry for the ARGGGGGGG on FB, I couldn't resist

[Dean Aka Nekro]

No appology needed mate, It was not rude at all John and just how really life can be forgetting about gear, I understand that and a mate am around for more than simple gear talk But I'll talk gear all day long also happily



Dean

Edit: still got no 'puter at all as my laptop is bluescreening (its a problem with the internal drive so that will have to be replaced) and audio machine still not complete due to funds being unavailable and health with this labrythitus/vertigo shite, So still on one of the Kid's tiny netbooks not made with my sized hands/fingers in mind and Im lucky to get much time on it as they both use thier netbooks alot. So posting/using the web is luxary atm Still it won't last and I'll get shit fixed up again one way or another: I'm tempted to just take a clawhammer to the HP laptop in rage mode/mood, Piece of shit it is

[Uncle E]

Next up for me though is a ribbon mic and more speakers

We sell ribbon mics. Here are some that I had specially-made for us:

http://jrrshop.com/catalog/advanced_sea ... microphone

[zerocrossing]

I'm keeping an eye on the torpedo, in concept I like it but I need to try it first and the building of an iso box in the future may still be a better way for me (note I said a box, not a cab, I want one I can put a cab or a combo in but there is no way I am paying the price such boxes go for when I can build one for less than a months worth of gas).

Next up for me though is a ribbon mic and more speakers (Rob, you need to sell a ribbon mic), I have found some nice deals on speakers though another mod I need to make to my iso cab is to make the speaker leads about a foot longer so I dont scratch the hell out of my hands (they leave me about 3" of spare space)

Dean, sorry for the ARGGGGGGG on FB, I couldn't resist

Yeah, the Torpedo concept could be a godsend... but the expense coupled with the cost and lack of possibility to actually demo one put me off.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Next up for me though is a ribbon mic and more speakers

We sell ribbon mics. Here are some that I had specially-made for us:

http://jrrshop.com/catalog/advanced_sea ... microphone

Are those the one's which nail that 121 style Eric? If so as I recall us talking ribbons a few times, Then IME too for guitar cabs its really hard to go wrong with one and yeah like I've said for ever John having 3 is even more than 2 on the speaker and does all You're eq except HPF/precise mix sitting right at source. Can't recommend a decent ribbon along with either a couple of decent dyamics or a dynamic and condenser (which is Your current setup). I won't rattle on why as I've done it all before

Cheers guys

Dean