What are you still missing from XT2?

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OK, my wishes are

-Rewire and OGG support
-To sort the single tracks in the Drumtracks (BD move up or
down..)
-Drag and drop an audiopart from an audiotrack into a drumtrack
-Zoom in the Drumsampler
-Perhaps a beginnersguide in german

Jou, that is it at first, sorry for my bad english...

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Klingeman wrote: -Perhaps a beginnersguide in german
I've heard somewhere there'll be the whole manual in German... :)

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"Energie Erweitert Zwei - eine Bedienungsanleitung zur komputergestützten Musikproduktion auf den Plattformen WinzigWeich und Linux" :hihi:

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so ungefähr... :lol: :hihi:

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druid wrote:Rewire was a minus, or just not important? I don't know why having Rewire support would make a person want to avoid the software?
propellerheads.se wrote:Due to the legal aspects of the agreement you need to have a registered company in order to qualify as a ReWire developer. We do not allow private persons, schools, or companies in other types of businesses, to become licensors.
That's why.

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Guckli wrote:
druid wrote:Rewire was a minus, or just not important? I don't know why having Rewire support would make a person want to avoid the software?
propellerheads.se wrote:Due to the legal aspects of the agreement you need to have a registered company in order to qualify as a ReWire developer. We do not allow private persons, schools, or companies in other types of businesses, to become licensors.
That's why.
And where should be the exact problem in your opinion? :?

Are you sure you really have a point here?

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Yeah, Jorgen ain't selling eXT off the trunk of his car... :roll:

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disturb wrote:Yeah, Jorgen ain't selling eXT off the trunk of his car... :roll:
Exactly! :hihi:

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jens wrote:
Klingeman wrote: -Perhaps a beginnersguide in german
I've heard somewhere there'll be the whole manual in German... :)
that would be brilliant :P

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Since I've rather plainly stated that linux is where I want to go it should be rather obvious that I'm none too happy with closed formats and interfaces, NDAs and so on and so forth. Steinberg's prohibition against redistribution of the VST header files is troublesome enough already, but at least anyone can grab the SDK.
As for Rewire's inclusion in XT2 the latter is still very much in beta as you may have noticed; obviously Rewire won't benefit me or other linux users all that much, since I'm pretty sure it will be left out of any linux binary and of course we have the vastly superior Jack Audio Connection Kit already. So I'd rather that Jørgen's attention and resources went elsewhere for a while yet, for the benefit of both platforms. The VST version comes to mind. Or the Live Arranger. Heck, the sequencer comp needs a little touch-up here and there...
disturb wrote:Yeah, Jorgen ain't selling eXT off the trunk of his car... Rolling Eyes
Ever paid for a beer in Oslo? I can assure you that he is at least familiar with the concept. ;)
Besides that I fail to see what Jørgens financial situation and/or business practices implied in that snarky remark has to do with Rewire.

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Guckli wrote:
disturb wrote:Yeah, Jorgen ain't selling eXT off the trunk of his car... Rolling Eyes
Ever paid for a beer in Oslo? I can assure you that he is at least familiar with the concept. ;)
Besides that I fail to see what Jørgens financial situation and/or business practices implied in that snarky remark has to do with Rewire.
odd that you don't get it - it's perfectly clear to me considering that paragraph you quoted...

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I don't see why the addition of ReWire is a problem. I see the lack as a problem.

I also don't see the problem with non-GNU business structures.

E-XT porting to Linux is a coup as it is bringing the platform a lot of exposure and ultimately may bring in a strong set uf users. Could also lead to other notable apps porting. The only problem I can see here is one of losing exclusivity!

:)

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I can understand that ReWire probably wouldn't benefit you too much on Linux Guckli. However, I didn't benefit a jot from the Linux port altogether as a Windows user and certainly didn't benefit from all the work jorgen did getting the jack implementation OK.

However, I didn't see either as a negative.

Regards
Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.

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The live triggering "pads" like in Project5 - jorgen mentioned this a while ago but I'm really looking forward to it!

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Guckli (the anti-ReWire person): I can understand all that, and I know that many people who advocate Linux are often sort of like left-wing anti-coroporational sorts of people who dislike closed .. oh you know, all that. I like opensource software myself, or at least free alternatives and all that. But I'm not going to knock-back useful features of a host. I don't need the sampler in XT2, let's drop that just for me, shall we?

Besides, I don't remember saying Jorgen should drop everything and include ReWire. Maybe others would like it, but I think you'll find most people who want it can live without it for a bit anyway, meaning your suggestion that it will hold up your Linux version is preposterous. No it won't! I wouldn't want to see Jorgen include ReWire support yet anyway as I personally feel XT2 isn't ready for that sort of feature yet, other things need more work. This thread was what are people missing from XT2... Missing doesn't mean desperately need right now.

And I still fail to see why it would be a negative to your choices, given that it won't slow down XT development. If you don't like it, don't use it. Well, actually, using Linux I guess you can't. I could probably use Rewire, and I would like to see it put in, but honestly I don't know how much I'd use it, so it's only barely more useful to me than it is to you. And yet, I still would like it in there!

And I'd be surprised if Jorgen does not have a registered business, or if he didn't, I'd be surprised if he couldn't do it whenever he needed quite easily.
Caleb wrote:I can understand that ReWire probably wouldn't benefit you too much on Linux Guckli. However, I didn't benefit a jot from the Linux port altogether as a Windows user and certainly didn't benefit from all the work jorgen did getting the jack implementation OK.

However, I didn't see either as a negative.
Thank you for saying that, that's exactly what I was thinking.

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