What are you still missing from XT2?
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 5 Oct, 2005
OK, my wishes are
-Rewire and OGG support
-To sort the single tracks in the Drumtracks (BD move up or
down..)
-Drag and drop an audiopart from an audiotrack into a drumtrack
-Zoom in the Drumsampler
-Perhaps a beginnersguide in german
Jou, that is it at first, sorry for my bad english...
-Rewire and OGG support
-To sort the single tracks in the Drumtracks (BD move up or
down..)
-Drag and drop an audiopart from an audiotrack into a drumtrack
-Zoom in the Drumsampler
-Perhaps a beginnersguide in german
Jou, that is it at first, sorry for my bad english...
- KVRAF
- 25008 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
I've heard somewhere there'll be the whole manual in German...Klingeman wrote: -Perhaps a beginnersguide in german
- KVRAF
- 25008 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
so ungefähr...

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- KVRist
- 331 posts since 24 Mar, 2002 from Denmark
druid wrote:Rewire was a minus, or just not important? I don't know why having Rewire support would make a person want to avoid the software?
That's why.propellerheads.se wrote:Due to the legal aspects of the agreement you need to have a registered company in order to qualify as a ReWire developer. We do not allow private persons, schools, or companies in other types of businesses, to become licensors.
- KVRAF
- 25008 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
And where should be the exact problem in your opinion?Guckli wrote:druid wrote:Rewire was a minus, or just not important? I don't know why having Rewire support would make a person want to avoid the software?That's why.propellerheads.se wrote:Due to the legal aspects of the agreement you need to have a registered company in order to qualify as a ReWire developer. We do not allow private persons, schools, or companies in other types of businesses, to become licensors.
Are you sure you really have a point here?
- KVRAF
- 25008 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Exactly!disturb wrote:Yeah, Jorgen ain't selling eXT off the trunk of his car...
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- KVRist
- 483 posts since 7 Aug, 2005 from Germany
that would be brilliantjens wrote:I've heard somewhere there'll be the whole manual in German...Klingeman wrote: -Perhaps a beginnersguide in german
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- KVRist
- 331 posts since 24 Mar, 2002 from Denmark
Since I've rather plainly stated that linux is where I want to go it should be rather obvious that I'm none too happy with closed formats and interfaces, NDAs and so on and so forth. Steinberg's prohibition against redistribution of the VST header files is troublesome enough already, but at least anyone can grab the SDK.
As for Rewire's inclusion in XT2 the latter is still very much in beta as you may have noticed; obviously Rewire won't benefit me or other linux users all that much, since I'm pretty sure it will be left out of any linux binary and of course we have the vastly superior Jack Audio Connection Kit already. So I'd rather that Jørgen's attention and resources went elsewhere for a while yet, for the benefit of both platforms. The VST version comes to mind. Or the Live Arranger. Heck, the sequencer comp needs a little touch-up here and there...

Besides that I fail to see what Jørgens financial situation and/or business practices implied in that snarky remark has to do with Rewire.
As for Rewire's inclusion in XT2 the latter is still very much in beta as you may have noticed; obviously Rewire won't benefit me or other linux users all that much, since I'm pretty sure it will be left out of any linux binary and of course we have the vastly superior Jack Audio Connection Kit already. So I'd rather that Jørgen's attention and resources went elsewhere for a while yet, for the benefit of both platforms. The VST version comes to mind. Or the Live Arranger. Heck, the sequencer comp needs a little touch-up here and there...
Ever paid for a beer in Oslo? I can assure you that he is at least familiar with the concept.disturb wrote:Yeah, Jorgen ain't selling eXT off the trunk of his car... Rolling Eyes
Besides that I fail to see what Jørgens financial situation and/or business practices implied in that snarky remark has to do with Rewire.
- KVRAF
- 25008 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
odd that you don't get it - it's perfectly clear to me considering that paragraph you quoted...Guckli wrote:Ever paid for a beer in Oslo? I can assure you that he is at least familiar with the concept.disturb wrote:Yeah, Jorgen ain't selling eXT off the trunk of his car... Rolling Eyes
Besides that I fail to see what Jørgens financial situation and/or business practices implied in that snarky remark has to do with Rewire.
- KVRAF
- 3758 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Gold Coast Australia
I don't see why the addition of ReWire is a problem. I see the lack as a problem.
I also don't see the problem with non-GNU business structures.
E-XT porting to Linux is a coup as it is bringing the platform a lot of exposure and ultimately may bring in a strong set uf users. Could also lead to other notable apps porting. The only problem I can see here is one of losing exclusivity!

I also don't see the problem with non-GNU business structures.
E-XT porting to Linux is a coup as it is bringing the platform a lot of exposure and ultimately may bring in a strong set uf users. Could also lead to other notable apps porting. The only problem I can see here is one of losing exclusivity!
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- KVRAF
- 4143 posts since 7 Sep, 2001 from Melbourne, Australia
I can understand that ReWire probably wouldn't benefit you too much on Linux Guckli. However, I didn't benefit a jot from the Linux port altogether as a Windows user and certainly didn't benefit from all the work jorgen did getting the jack implementation OK.
However, I didn't see either as a negative.
Regards
Caleb
However, I didn't see either as a negative.
Regards
Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.
- KVRAF
- 1601 posts since 24 Jun, 2004 from Australia
Guckli (the anti-ReWire person): I can understand all that, and I know that many people who advocate Linux are often sort of like left-wing anti-coroporational sorts of people who dislike closed .. oh you know, all that. I like opensource software myself, or at least free alternatives and all that. But I'm not going to knock-back useful features of a host. I don't need the sampler in XT2, let's drop that just for me, shall we?
Besides, I don't remember saying Jorgen should drop everything and include ReWire. Maybe others would like it, but I think you'll find most people who want it can live without it for a bit anyway, meaning your suggestion that it will hold up your Linux version is preposterous. No it won't! I wouldn't want to see Jorgen include ReWire support yet anyway as I personally feel XT2 isn't ready for that sort of feature yet, other things need more work. This thread was what are people missing from XT2... Missing doesn't mean desperately need right now.
And I still fail to see why it would be a negative to your choices, given that it won't slow down XT development. If you don't like it, don't use it. Well, actually, using Linux I guess you can't. I could probably use Rewire, and I would like to see it put in, but honestly I don't know how much I'd use it, so it's only barely more useful to me than it is to you. And yet, I still would like it in there!
And I'd be surprised if Jorgen does not have a registered business, or if he didn't, I'd be surprised if he couldn't do it whenever he needed quite easily.
Besides, I don't remember saying Jorgen should drop everything and include ReWire. Maybe others would like it, but I think you'll find most people who want it can live without it for a bit anyway, meaning your suggestion that it will hold up your Linux version is preposterous. No it won't! I wouldn't want to see Jorgen include ReWire support yet anyway as I personally feel XT2 isn't ready for that sort of feature yet, other things need more work. This thread was what are people missing from XT2... Missing doesn't mean desperately need right now.
And I still fail to see why it would be a negative to your choices, given that it won't slow down XT development. If you don't like it, don't use it. Well, actually, using Linux I guess you can't. I could probably use Rewire, and I would like to see it put in, but honestly I don't know how much I'd use it, so it's only barely more useful to me than it is to you. And yet, I still would like it in there!
And I'd be surprised if Jorgen does not have a registered business, or if he didn't, I'd be surprised if he couldn't do it whenever he needed quite easily.
Thank you for saying that, that's exactly what I was thinking.Caleb wrote:I can understand that ReWire probably wouldn't benefit you too much on Linux Guckli. However, I didn't benefit a jot from the Linux port altogether as a Windows user and certainly didn't benefit from all the work jorgen did getting the jack implementation OK.
However, I didn't see either as a negative.
